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Kimpatsu Hekigan


May 19, 2005, 9:45 PM

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TelMex's "Fight & Frustrate" strategy against VoIP services

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Here's another article on TelMex's lack of a clear approach in dealing with the burgeoning use of VoIP in Mexico, this time from the Skype Journal blog, and including a response direct from TelMex's mouth:

http://www.skypejournal.com/.../telmex_will_not.php

(Original link via the engadget blog:)
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000083043986/

The author labels TelMex's strategy "fight and frustrate," rather like the attitude some local telcos in the States have been adopting in blocking certain ports used by Vonage...

It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out. It would appear TelMex definitely sees VoIP as a threat...

FWIW,

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esperanza

May 20, 2005, 6:06 AM

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Re: [kimpatsu_hekigan] TelMex's "Fight & Frustrate" strategy against VoIP services

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KH, thanks for posting that link. It left me puzzled, though, as does much of this discussion about the Telmex troubles.

I'm assuming that those of us who use other than Telmex as an ISP aren't affected by the problems--I know that my Iconnecthere and Skype calls continue to have astonishingly good quality, and I use a 1mb cable connection here in Guadalajara. Will Telmex manage to infiltrate cable?

What think you?




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MG Rabon


May 20, 2005, 9:49 AM

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Re: [esperanza] TelMex's "Fight & Frustrate" strategy against VoIP services

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Maybe if Telmex would adopt a more reasonable pricing structure we wouldn't be trying to find alternatives?

I thought that Prodigy/Infinitum was the ONLY ISP in Mexico unless you were on a satellite dish?

Compórtate bien, y si no puedes, invítame!
MG Rabon

ignacio

May 20, 2005, 10:15 AM

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Re: [MG Rabon] TelMex's "Fight & Frustrate" strategy against VoIP services

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"I thought that Prodigy/Infinitum was the ONLY ISP in Mexico unless you were on a satellite dish?"

In most of the larger cities in Mexico, Megacable offers internet service through their cable.


MG Rabon


May 20, 2005, 10:29 AM

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Re: [ignacio] TelMex's "Fight & Frustrate" strategy against VoIP services

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In Acapulco, the dial-up is Prodigy/Infinitum, our Telmex DSL is Prodigy/Infinitum, the neighbor's CableRed from the cable TV people is also Prodigy/Infinitum. The same thing with different lables on it, or so it seems.

I was pretty sure that they had a monopoly that covered ALL of Mexico, although I could be wrong.

Compórtate bien, y si no puedes, invítame!
MG Rabon

esperanza

May 20, 2005, 11:48 AM

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Re: [MG Rabon] TelMex's "Fight & Frustrate" strategy against VoIP services

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Here in Guadalajara, there are several companies which offer cable Internet service.

For example, Megacable offers Megared. The price is substantially lower than the price for Prodigy Infinitum and the variety of speeds available ranges from 64K to--well, I think maybe 2mg, or maybe more. I pay $399MN a month for 1mg-speed cable service.

Prodigy Infinitum is not actually cable service, if I understand correctly. It's ADSL, a whole other thing.




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Brian

May 20, 2005, 1:15 PM

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Re: [esperanza] TelMex's "Fight & Frustrate" strategy against VoIP services

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Probably Pete or some other knowledgeable person will step in here with the answer to the question about Telmex's ability to essentially shutdown the existing VOIP services here in Mexico. I am under the impression that Telmex is the sole owner of the internet backbone in this country and that all of the ISPs, including cable and dialup, must be licensed users of the backbone to offer service to their customers.

Brian

Rolly


May 20, 2005, 1:58 PM

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Re: [MG Rabon] TelMex's "Fight & Frustrate" strategy against VoIP services

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No, Mike, Telmex/Prodigy/Infinitiem is not the only game in the country. In my town I know of three ISPs other than Telmex, and there may be more. In some cities you can have AOL.

I have tried two of the independents but found their service no better than Telmex for twice the cost. The third ISP is the cable company which does not serve my street. I have a friend who is on the cable and loves it.

One of the independent ISPs here in Lerdo also operates an internet cafe with a T1 connection -- talk about fast!

Rolly Pirate

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May 20, 2005, 2:03 PM

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Re: [Brian] TelMex's "Fight & Frustrate" strategy against VoIP services

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There are other backbones or connections to the states, than those owned by Telmex. I know that www.lagunanet.com (Ajijic ISP) uses an independent backbone. I understand that Mexico wireless the other local ISP uses Telmex's backbone.

Here lakeside there will soon be a fourth Internet service provider, the local cable company, Telecable. I don't know about their backbone.

The experts tell me that yes the owners of the backbone can disrupt VoIP service and make it so unreliable that you will move on to another type of telephone service. Apparently they do so by treating VoIP info packets poorly or by giving priority to other types of digital information. However I have recently read that developers have come up with an new voice protocol that looks very different than what is used now by the big boys (vonage, etc) and that said data will be able to slip by the filters.

That said I "aint" no expert. I'm only quoting what others have written.

Hey normally at my cottage in NW WA all I have is dial-up and I have been having withdrawal symptoms (in Mexico I have T-1 with a the slow infinitum as a backup). Today I am at Starbucks and have 1410 down and 740 up but that is only going to last for 20 minutes more.

raferguson


May 25, 2005, 6:16 PM

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Re: [kimpatsu_hekigan] TelMex's "Fight & Frustrate" strategy against VoIP services

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No one mentioned the outrageous Telmex international phone rates, which provide the financial incentive for users to go to VOIP. That also provides the financial incentive for Telmex to try to stop VOIP. Some people have tried to interest me in VOIP in the USA, but at three cents a minute long distance, and free long distance on my cell phone on weekends, why would I bother?

I recall that the US won a trade complaint against Mexico related to Telmex charges to US phone companies.

http://usinfo.state.gov/...4/Mar/15-584765.html

http://www.signonsandiego.com/...ews_1b2mexcalls.html

Richard


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