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MG Rabon


Apr 16, 2005, 10:34 AM

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Seafood seasoning

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Hi, I'm hankerin' for some jambalaya, I have all the necessary ingredients except for one. My family recipe calls for Old Bay Seafood seasoning (McCormick) which I cannot find in the stores. I have used other brands of seafood seasoning the the US with good results but I can't find ANY brand here. I've tried local ingredients and what I end up with ISN'T Jambalaya.

I'm pretty sure I know what is in the seasoning, just not how much of each:
celery salt
Jamaica pepper (allspice??)
mustard seed
cayenne pepper
mace
cardomon
cloves
ginger
paprika
and bay laurel leaves

Perhaps someone out there might have a recipe for this seasoning, or know the general proportions of this mix?

I've yet to find the Jamaica pepper, cayenne pepper, mace, or cardomon in the stores here so it might really be harder to make the stuff myself. Anybody got an idea where I might find these spices, or even better the seafood seasoning itself?

Gracias,

Compórtate bien, y si no puedes, invítame!
MG Rabon



esperanza

Apr 16, 2005, 11:22 AM

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Re: [MG Rabon] Seafood seasoning

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You can buy Old Bay Seafood Seasoning and allspice at SuperLake in Ajijic and, if I recall correctly, at Goiti in Guadalajara.

At the tianguis where I shop in Guadalajara, you can also buy small amounts of cardamom and cayenne, in little plastic bags. I saw both there last week.




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Bubba

Apr 16, 2005, 4:48 PM

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Re: [MG Rabon] Seafood seasoning

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MG:

As far as I know, jambalaya (a peasant stew originated in Provence and stolen by the cajuns) can be made in a number of ways as it is a mixture of stewed rice and various types of meat/poultry/seafood/spicy sausage - whatever but I'm sure you know that. None of the recipes I have calls for Old Bay Brand seasoning or even most of the ingredients one finds in Old Bay. However, it seems to me that Old Bay would be pretty good in a jambalaya and, while, as Esperanza says, it can be found in the Guadalajara and Lake Chapala areas pretty easily, I don't think its worth the trip for you. I might add that it is rather expensive for what you get.

Why not blend your own Old Bay type seasoning to your taste from the ingredients listed on the Old Bay can resting in Bubba's larder:

Ground Up In Order of Volume:
Salt
Celery seeds
Mustard
Cayenne pepper
Black pepper
Bay Laurel
Cloves
Dried ginger
Mace
Cardamom
Cinnamon
Paprika

I don't think there is any allspice in this stuff but I'll bet allspice would be a good addition to your recipe if used sparingly.

To find out if it Old Bay is available in your area, contact the importer:

Importco-Blanca Luna Hernandez
Domicilio Volcan Ajusco
108C El Colli Urbano
Zapopan, Jalisco CP45070
Tel: (0133) 3120 4514
E-Mail: importco@importco.com.mx

Give them a buzz. I'll bet you can make your own that is just as good.


(This post was edited by Bubba on Apr 16, 2005, 4:55 PM)


Texwheel

Apr 16, 2005, 11:05 PM

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Re: [Bubba] Seafood seasoning

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Well, I can only contribute that Old Bay also is a great addition to fries, fried anything, etc. If you have a private recipe, I don't know.
Tom Williams
Georgetown, Texas
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Uncle Jack


Apr 17, 2005, 7:53 AM

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Re: [Texwheel] Seafood seasoning

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Old Bay Seasoning can be purchased at most grocery stores.
Here is an untried copycat recipe for the mixture.

Exported from MasterCook II *

Old Bay Seasoning

Recipe By :
Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Mixes Copycat

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
1 Tbsp Celery Seed
1 Tbsp Whole Black Peppercorns
6 Bay Leaves
1/2 Tsp Whole Cardamom
1/2 Tsp Mustard Seed
4 Whole Cloves
1 Tsp Sweet Hungarian Paprika
1/4 Tsp Mace

In a spice grinder or small food processor, combine all of the
ingredients. Grind well and store in a small glass jar.

>From "Sundays at the Moosewood Restaurant"

Also, if you want to order, here's the address of the company:
Old Bay Company, Inc., P. O. Box 1802, Baltimore Maryland 21203-1802


Texwheel

Apr 17, 2005, 5:18 PM

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Thanks, UJ.

Tom.
Tom Williams
Georgetown, Texas
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Carron

Apr 18, 2005, 7:51 AM

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Re: [Bubba] Seafood seasoning

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Being from New Orleans, though not a cajun, I have cooked my share of jambalayas over the years. Never heard of one that required Old Bay--isn't that from Boston, or Maryland, or some such foreign country? In fact, I never used seafood seasonings at all, though I did use Zatarains for boiling shrimp or crabs. The correct seasonings for New Orleans style jambalaya depend mostly on Worchestershire sauce, cayenne pepper powder, celery, green peppers, onions, and garlic. Maybe a bay leaf or two. And the seasonings used previously on the cooked meats, poultry, sausage, and seafood also make a big difference in the final flavor. Jambalaya is one heck of a good way to clean out the fridge or use up precious leftovers before they spoil, which was its original purpose, wherever it came from.


MG Rabon


Apr 24, 2005, 7:20 AM

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Yes, Old bay refers to the Chesapeake bay in Maryland. As I said it was a family recipe - only one of my parents was from Louisianna. Ours doesn't use leftovers but rather lots of crab, shrimp, and shellfish - almost a stovetop paella.

I had a nostalgic moment and wanted to duplicate a taste from my childhood.

Zatarians! I'd (almost) kill for some Zatarians Cajun seasoning - I had a friend that came down from LA scour the stores there for the stuff so he could bring it down a few months ago but the only thing he could find in LA was some off-brand (to me) stuff that was HORRIBLE.

Thanks for the ideas.

Compórtate bien, y si no puedes, invítame!
MG Rabon


Carron

Apr 24, 2005, 10:08 AM

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Let me see if I can get some Zatarains for you. When my first husband and I lived in New Orleans, we often had boiled shrimp or crabs. We had a rule in our house: if we peeled and ate a shrimp or cleaned a crab to enjoy immediately, we then had to peel or clean another which went into the fridge for future meals. Talk about the trials of deferred gratification!

Now, as many jambalayas as I have made in my 6 decades, I am totally intimidated by the thought of attempting a paella. Are they really as difficult as they seem? We live where there is a great seafood market, though at the edge of the desert. The ingredients seem so expensive for the paella that I would hate to make a mess of it and lose all that good seafood and money.

Do you have a paella recipe to suggest?


jennifer rose

Apr 24, 2005, 10:48 AM

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Re: [Carron] Paella

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There's nothing difficult about making paella. Contrary to popular belief, it doesn't have to include shrimp. The insistence upon shrimp and ham cuts me out of eating paella at a lot of restaurants. The only constant is rice and saffron. And olive oil. You can make it with chicken, other fowl, snails, or even in a style acceptable to vegans. Use short- or medium-grain rice, and to make it even easier, the precooked (not instant) rice, also works out nicely.

Google "paella," and see what you come up with. Paella is basically a rustic peasant dish, made with whatever ingredients are at hand.

Here's my method:

Prepare a sofrito of tomato, onion and garlic. Set that aside. In the paella pan, saute some chicken or vegetarian chorizo in olive oil. Add the rice and small pieces of unskinned chicken or perhaps rabbit, stirring it around until the rice turns opaque. Add boiling chicken broth, a little at a time, enough to cover. While this is cooking, grind up a pinch of saffron in a mortar and pestle, adding a little bit of hot water to it. Dump that in the rice. Engage in a hearty debate over the proper way to stir the rice, from the center to the outside or in some other manner. Don't cover the pan. Toss the sofrito back in. Add something from the vegetable kingdom such as peas, asparagus, red, green or yellow peppers, more onion, artichoke hearts, green beans. Poll potential eaters to determine what everyone will eat, adding canned or fresh clams, fish filets or even smelt at the last moment, so it more or less poaches. There will always be someone who complains that their version is the only authentic version. Diplomatically hand that individual a glass of wine, tell him or her that you're making the paella, and dismiss them from the kitchen while you cook.

When the cooking has stopped, cover the paella with a towel to rest for five minutes before cooking. While you're waiting, prepare slices of lemon and parsley to garnish the dish.

If you don't have Spanish saffron, in Mexico are sold camotes de azafran, resembling tiny yellow-ish ginger root. That can be grated and added to the paella.

If you don't have a paella pan, a very large frying pan will do. An American friend in Seattle taught me that even an electric roaster will work if you're making very large quantities.


Carron

Apr 25, 2005, 8:25 PM

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Re: [jennifer rose] Paella

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Gotcha on the wine for guests to cover mistakes! Maybe even two glasses. And that's just for the cook. I think the thing that intimidates me most is that the dish is cooked uncovered and requires a shorter grained rice. I have spent my life cooking regular long grain rice to perfection in a tightly covered pot. Haven't burned it in years!

It's not the ingredients, all of which are certainly available, but the cooking method that makes me nervous. I plan to try this soon. Will report on how it turns out.


Bubba

May 5, 2005, 12:03 PM

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Re: [Carron] Paella

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JR is right. Paella requires no seafood but, like bouillabaisse, was a traditional seafood stew prepared by the fisherfolk with what was left over after the day's catch was sold. Our recipe includes no seafood whatsoever but is made with chicken and homemade chicken stock and Spanish Chorizo and saffron and long-grain rice and garlic and onions and damn it's good with a fine Chilean red wine. Godawlmighty - there goes the diet.
 
 
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