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annep

Oct 21, 2004, 2:51 PM

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WE ARE PLANNING A TRIP TO TLAXCAL AND VERACRUZ, HOW IS IT TO RENT A CAR? I HEAR THAT THE PRICE IS 50.oo A DAY, IS THAT TRUE? WE WANT TO GET TO SMALLER PLACES AND I JUST CANT SEEM TO GET FROM POINT A TO B TO C TO D EASILY ON THE BUS........... ANY IDEAS ?



raferguson


Oct 21, 2004, 8:51 PM

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Car rental in Mexico is much more expensive than in the USA. I recommend that you get the Mexican insurance, which makes it even more expensive. The rental car insurance from your credit card, if any, does not work in Mexico.

Some general thoughts on car rental and driving below.

AUTO RENTAL AND DRIVING TIPS FOR MEXICO

I have often rented cars in Mexico, although I rarely drive my own car across the border.

RENTAL CARD VS. PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION

With the low price of taxis and busses, and the high price of rental cars in Mexico, it is usually much cheaper to use public transportation, and I have an info sheet available that discusses the Mexican bus system.

Trips in which a rent-a-car makes sense: You desire to visit out-of-the way villages, or just drive around and explore.

Trips in which public transportation makes sense: You will spend most of your time in a city or a beach resort, without daily trips far from your hotel. For instance, I think that it would be crazy to rent a car to see Mexico City.

Of course, a compromise is to rent a car for a couple of days of exploration, and use public transportation the rest of the time. Sometimes tours are available, even by taxi, to out-of-the-way destinations.

Rental cars in Mexico vary in quality, even when using name brand US car rental companies. Look over the car carefully before you accept it, especially the tires and spare.

Generally, you will save money by reserving a car before you arrive in Mexico.

I recommend that you accept the local insurance, as your policy on your car in the US or Canada does not apply there.

GENERAL DRIVING TIPS

1. Do not drive at night. Essentially all authorities will tell you this. I occasionally violate this rule, but only for short distances when I know the road. Some of the reasons include: topes, corrupt police, poor signage, bandits, livestock in the road, and cars driving without lights.

2. Stay alert for topes (speed bumps) outside and inside villages, marked or unmarked.

3. Realize that highway signs in Mexico are not as complete as those in the US. Maps may not be readily available. I sometimes stop and ask for directions.

4. Realize that corrupt police sometimes target tourist drivers. Although this has never happened to me, there are plenty of stories out there. Some people talk about the art form of the mordida (small bribe), some people say that you should not encourage corruption, etc. If you are stopped, don't panic, take your time, don't assume that the cop is corrupt, and offer to pay your fine at the station. If the cop makes it clear he is looking for cash on the spot, I leave it to you what you want to do. I have a funny story about cops and cars. We were on our way to the airport with a rent-a-car, and stopped for breakfast. On our way out, we saw our car on a towtruck. Apparently there was a footrace, and they were clearing the street (we did not see any signs). We rushed up and talked to the tow truck driver, who was not sympathetic. The sergeant came over, explained this situation to us, and asked if we had our keys. The sergeant told the towtruck driver to lower the car, and told us to drive away. We shook his hands with a muchas gracias, and drove to the airport. So don't assume that you will have a problem just because a cop has stopped you.

5. Roadblocks are sometimes seen on highways, especially at the border of two states. They may want to look in your trunk, or even open luggage. Do not panic, watch them work, and you will be on your way in a few minutes. Sometimes these roadblocks are run by police, sometimes by soldiers or police carrying large rifles. This is normal for Mexico. They may be looking for drugs, guerillas, or unauthorized agricultural products.

6. Toll roads, marked "cuota", are common in Mexico. Sometimes these are moderately priced, sometimes they are extremely expensive. By expensive, I mean 20 dollars US for a two hour ride. You may wish to find out the price before you get on the toll road, as the price is not marked until you get to the toll booth. The toll roads are comparable to US interstate four-lane highways, usually have few exits, and are the fastest and safest way to travel long distances, although you won't see the villages.

7. You must have Mexican insurance, whether you drive your own car or a rental car. According to Mexican law, if you have an accident and do not have insurance, you can be thrown into jail; this is especially troublesome if you are injured in the accident, as you will not be able to get home for medical treatment. Get the Mexican insurance.

While I believe that most of Mexico is safe to drive around, there are a few troubled areas in Mexico, and some sources list specific roads as potential security concerns. Mexico Mike lists specific roads where extra care would be advisable in his section on Safety Tips. The US state department also lists specific roads with concerns. Take the couple of minutes to review their information before you go. If the area of your trip is not listed, you can relax and travel normally. If the area of your trip is listed, the rule of no night driving applies double, and local enquiry should be made before getting off the beaten path. Mexico City is not a good place to drive around, especially with US licence plates, as foreigners and locals are sometimes targeted by corrupt police. Mexico City is also a hard place to drive, I do it every 10 years or so, after I have forgotten how tough it was the last time. ;-)

If you plan to drive your own car into Mexico, be sure you buy Mexican auto insurance from Sanborn or another Mexican insurer, before you cross the border. You will need registration papers, and a credit card to guarantee that you will return the car to the US, etc. If the car is not paid for you may need a letter from the bank. The Sanborns insurance web site has useful information.

Here are a few web sites that relate to driving in Mexico:

http://www.mexicomike.com

http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/fqdriving.html

http://www.sanbornsinsurance.com (Good on border crossing info)

http://travel.state.gov/mexico.html

http://travel.state.gov/tips_mexico.html (somewhat dated)

Have fun!

Richard Ferguson


May 2, 2004


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Rolly


Oct 22, 2004, 8:00 AM

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Superb post, Richard. Thank you.

Rolly Pirate


annep

Oct 25, 2004, 7:57 AM

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thank you so much for the info. i think we will take busses then maybe rent for just a day or two to get to some smaller areas.
anne


Bubba

Nov 10, 2004, 9:01 AM

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We just rented a car by the week at Cancun airport. The rental was a little over $230 Pesos a day. The insurance, on the other hand, was around $600 Pesos a day. So, the car cost us about $80USD a day. That is with the cash discount on the rental rate. You should get at least a 10% discount for cash which you can pay when you return the car.

The big car rental companies (we used Hertz) will have large signs up stating that they do not take cash for rental car payment. Don't you believe it. You will have to request the discount for cash, however. They have a separate office for cash transactions. Cash always talks in Mexico.

If you go to the internet for a "guaranteed" low rental car rate, it will seem pretty cheap to you. They hit you with the exhorbitant insurance charge after they have sucked you in.

Don't even think of anything less than full insurance coverage in Mexico. The downside risk is too great.

If you are simply going to Cancun, you don't really need a rental car but we were traveling all over the Yucatan Peninsula including many back roads and small villages. You can't have this experience without a rental car on the peninsula unless you have a high tolerance for pain or are in your twenties.

The previous post by Richard is an excellent guide for driving in Mexico.


(This post was edited by Bubba on Nov 10, 2004, 9:19 AM)


KarenShelver

Nov 16, 2004, 2:39 PM

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I agree that renting a car in Mexico can be quite expensive and, unless you plan on travelling around to small villages or really want to let loose and go somewhere on your own schedule, take public buses. The bus and van systems are great, reasonably priced and most of them are clean, air conditioned and 99.9% on time. Be careful of some van companies though: One van took us on a 6 hour ride and the driver stopped once for 5 minutes for a bathroom break for everyone. No food stops, no other stops along the way AND he tore like a bat outta hell over topes, which gave us all mild whiplash (not to mention damage to the van's shocks). We used a different company (recommended) on the return with no problems and stopped 2 times for 15 minute breaks and still managed to make it in the same 6 hours. And the weather was WORSE on the return! The moral: Go with a recommendation if possible.
We rented a mid-sized car in Huatulco from Hertz which was quoted online from the U.S. website, as $70 per day including insurance, only to get to the shop in Huatulco to find it is really $70 per day excluding insurance. We always buy insurance, because you just do--you have to, so it worked out to be more like $80+ per day. Ouch!
Then I walked into Economico Rent-a-car in Oaxaca City, no reservations, and paid $55 per day including insurance for that VW Bug I mentioned in an earlier thread. I consider that a GREAT deal for Mexico. For a couple days of tooling around Mitla, taking the DIY mezcal tour and getting lost in small towns, the car was invaluable. Admittedly, driving in Mexico can be daunting but it can also be one of the most exhilerating experiences you'll have. Be adventurous, get lost, ask strangers in small towns for directions. Sometimes they can be the nicest people you'll encounter on your trip!
Going up and down to the Pacific Coast from Oaxaca City or from Majahual up to Merida, the bus is the only way to go. I'm sure it is the same in other parts too. Primero clase is fast and efficient (toilets on board and movies often in English or with English subtitles). You wanna see the villages & have the time to kill, take segundo clase buses and get REALLY into the heart of Mexico with the natives.
And in town, if it's raining or you don't feel like walking back to your hotel from the restaurant because you're stuffed to the gills from all that mole, taxis are cheap and usually readily available. Colectivos rock too if you are 1 or 2 people willing to pile into a small Toyota with a bunch of kids on the way home from school. Any way you travel, do just that--travel! Enjoy what you see and learn!!!
Buena suerte,
karen
 
 
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