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gbatrucks


Jul 20, 2004, 8:54 AM

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Re: [Esteban] Pre-Existing Conditions

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"If you live in Mexico full time, your Medicare doesn't cover you in Mexico so in case of an emergency with your pre-existing what would you do?"

I thought I read here a couple of weeks ago that medicare WOULD cover Americans for emergancies in Canada & Mexico....Did I mis-read something?
"The trouble with life is there's no background music."


lmaxine

Jul 20, 2004, 11:25 AM

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Medicare does not cover you in Mexico, unless you are just on a visit for less than, I think, 60 days and you have an emergency. A friend of mine had a heart attack on the 59th day, so everything was covered. Now, they always leave after 2 months, just in case. But, I don't know how they verify how long you have been here-maybe plane tix?
"He upon whose heart the dust of Mexico has lain will find no peace in any other land." Malcolm Lowry


Bubba

Jul 21, 2004, 10:12 AM

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Re: [SteveInPVR] Pre-Existing Conditions

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We insure through a Mexican insurance company that is a subsidiary of a European parent. We have unlimited coverage with a $20,000 Peso deduction. I am 62 years old have been treated for high blood pressure for years, am overweight and took no physical. My only pre-existing condition in addition to the blood pressure is a cataract that will cost me $20,000 Pesos to eliminate so it is not an issue. One of the exclusions under my policy for the first three years is for hernias so I had to pay for an umbillical hernia out of pocket. The good news is that I had a top flight surgical team from Guadalajara, had the operation performed at the outstanding Hospital Del Carmen in that city where I stayed in a luxurious (for a hospital) private room with excellent amenities and delicious food and the whole thing cost me $38,000 Pesos. That included weeks of post-operative care by the head surgeon who could not have been better or nicer. The hospital room itself was $1,000 Pesos a day and they had CNN in English plus some good TV movies.

And, I hope you all are sitting down, the doctors and hospital staff here in Guadalajara are top notch, very nice, take a personal interest in your dilemma and treat you like an actual human being. The head surgeon's work including five weeks of followup cost me $6,500 Pesos. The team of four doctors who performed the operation cost me $20,000 Pesos in aggregate and the total hospitalization cost was $18,000 Pesos.


The thing to remember is that routine physician care is inexpensive here so you should insure against the potential catastrophe that could land you in the hospital for months. I have yet to meet anyone who was excluded for having been run over by a truck as a pre-condition.

I will be happy to privately provide the name of the insurance company upon request. By the way, the agent helped me find the outstanding surgeon in Guadalajara who performed my surgery. Nice people.

We had Kaiser in Northern California and I always felt like a side of beef on a hook when going there with a doctor standing there ready to mark my carcass with a "USDA Approved" Stamp . Retire here to take care of your old bones.

A word of advice. If you live in the Lake Chapala area, do not assume that people manning the advice desk at the Lake Chapala Society or that anyone selling products or services on the Society grounds has any notion of the quality of what they are telling or selling you. Do your own homework on health insurance or live to regret it.

Oh, and lastly, when we retired we had the option of continuing our major medical coverage in the San Francisco Bay Area for only $850US per month. Here we are both covered for less than $200US per month.


Donita


Jul 21, 2004, 7:55 PM

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Re: [Don] Pre-Existing Conditions

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I have a lady friend who also told me about taking Milk Thistle for her liver problems. She has Hepatitis C. So it is interesting to hear you giving credit to it for making you better. That is really amazing!
Donita


sandykayak


Jul 22, 2004, 12:33 PM

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Re: [Bubba] Pre-Existing Conditions

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bubba and others with MX major medical insurance:
what kind of coverage do you have when visiting the US?

If you went to the US for a month, say, and required emergency treatment is it covered?
Sandy Kramer
Miami, Fla & El Parque


Georgia


Jul 22, 2004, 1:47 PM

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Re: [sandykayak] Pre-Existing Conditions

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We have insurance through Allianz. Strictly major medical. It covers emergency care up to $50,000 when we are out of Mexico. The yearly premium is equal to 1 1/2 months' worth of our insurance under COBRA. Pre-existing conditions (high blood pressure, gout, whatever) were not an issue. Apparently they even accept people who are HIV positive with a two year exclusion for problems related to the HIV.


Bubba

Jul 22, 2004, 3:21 PM

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When we visit the U.S., France or, for that matter, Upper Volta (Burkina Faso), we are covered for emergency medical care up to $50,000USD. We figure that in Burkina Faso this will not matter to the injured party who will surely expire but will help the survivor in a financial sense.


Esteban

Jul 23, 2004, 2:59 PM

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Re: [Bubba] Pre-Existing Conditions

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Just to clarify some stuff here, 50,000 USD is NOT MUCH when in the USA. It surely won't even come close to serious heart emergency operations. Grupo Inbursa, has plans that extend YEARLY caps to 1,000,000 USD for emergency international care. Check them out. Everyone needs to look at caps, deductibles, copayments and exclusions to be able to compare apples to apples.


Bubba

Jul 23, 2004, 4:28 PM

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Re: [Esteban] Pre-Existing Conditions

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The $50,000 is meant to cover getting you back to Mexico for long term treatment. You are right that $50,000 is chump change in the U.S. which is all the more reason to get out of that hell hole. I am sure that Grupo Imbursa is a fine company but their marketing sucks. Where were you when I needed a local insurance company? I would have preferred to have a Mexican insurer but was not even aware of their products except for the detestible affiliate of New York Life that the Lake Chapala Society in Ajijic pushes. If you want expat business, let us know you exist!


(This post was edited by Bubba on Jul 23, 2004, 4:30 PM)


Georgia


Jul 23, 2004, 7:25 PM

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Re: [Esteban] Pre-Existing Conditions

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Yes. But at our age, that will shortly be supplemented with Medicare and Medicare Part B when we are in the states. It's a stopgap crap shoot, I grant you, but we both generally enjoy very good health.


NEOhio

Jul 23, 2004, 9:08 PM

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What a surprise to see Burkina Faso menitoned here. My eldest daughter, was just married in HAwaii on July 9 to the man she met at the American Club in Ouaga, Burkina Faso. They are now serving in Jakarta Indonesia, she as an agricultural program director and he as a teacher at the International School. They are here in cleveland visiting and are totally over the top about our plans for Mexico.

What took you to Burkina Faso?


Esteban

Jul 24, 2004, 8:36 AM

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Re: [Bubba] Pre-Existing Conditions

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I'll have to agree with you on that one Bubba. Marketing is a different animal in Mexico. The concepts, the idea of it, the methods etc. are all very different from the high powered mind controlling media in the US. In Mazatlan for instance, there are some great musical events which aren't advertised until the day of performance and then, you have to read the entertainment section to catch them at all. With Mexican insurance, you have to search it out with vigor or like most Mexicans, have someone in the family who is an agent or who has had experience in such matters. It's rare to find a Mexican family who doesn't have at least one person/friend/relative who will fulfill your any need be it doctor, lawyer or Indian chief.
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