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talosian


May 18, 2004, 11:48 PM

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a lot of Direct TV and Dish receivers and small (3 fee or so) satellite dishes. They are practically giving them away. Here is one ad on eBay? Bid is $25 plus shipping.

You are bidding on a Direct TV satellite system. It includes a RCA receiver; remote; the satellite dish and the card. All items are clean and in working order. The RCA receiver is model # DRD420RE. This receiver includes on the rear of it a satellite in coax connector, Input coax connector, an output coax connector, a right and a left audio connector, a video connector, a S Video connector, a phone jack, a low speed communication port. Do a quick internet search on this receiver and you will find all the specs you need. If you are interested in the numbers on the card see the pictures below.


I see there was a discussion about satellite receivers in 2003 but no real updates. I'm wondering if it is worth it to buy one of these and bring it down. I was told by the Broker who sold me my house that it's something like US$750 to buy and install the satellite system where I am (outside of Chapala). This seems pretty high.

Any update on this front?

Thanks.

Spock
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kirkswig


May 19, 2004, 1:41 AM

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From what I've gathered from the more learned forum members here, DirecTV is muy mal (not good) in Mexico. As I understand it, DirecTV's satellites transmit their signals in specific directions, kind of like a spotlight, rather than omnidirectionally, like a normal lightbulb. That means that only certain areas on the planet are able to receive the signal, and as you might expect, those areas tend to focus on the contiguous 48 states. Apparently some people are able to accommodate this "feature" by buying bigger dishes, which allows them to make do with a weaker signal, but the consensus seems to be that Dish Network is the better choice. I'm guessing their "spotlights" aren't as narrowly focused, ergo reception in Mexico is so much better.

So, the dishes you see advertised in the U.S. probably won't work well in Mexico. I've heard comments to the effect that you might get some channels, but not all, and it may be that those channels you do get will be subject to a higher-than-normal incidence of artifacting owing to the MPEG decoding having to reset itself after experiencing loss of signal.

My recommendation would be to wait. Both DirecTV and Dish have just come out with their HD PVR's. This is like TiVO for High Definition. DirecTV's actually *is* TiVO, and as I understand it it is an excellent unit. The model from DISH sadly is said to leave a lot to be desired (but these problems may be addressed by software updates.) Both are approximately $1K US.

In other words, the market is in flux right now. Low-end units are being bumped down in price, which is probably what you're seeing on eBay.

There are also the legal questions. I don't think you can get DirecTV legally in Mexico. Of course, you can get one of those smart cards that lets you pirate the signal, but who knows what the consequences of that would be. The choice appears to be one of no programming, vs. unlimited programming for free. I wish the people who make these decisions (like forbidding DirecTV outside of the U.S.) would think more before acting.

Personally, I have always done without satellite TV. I'm not into sports, and I get all my movies and TV shows through NetFlix, alas, that will be another adjustment since NetFlix isn't available in Mexico. I understand you can download much of this from the net these days however, using a peer-to-peer solution like BitTorrent and a website like suprnova.com, but again we're getting into some dubious conduct.

It's a tough call. It's one thing to steal when the wares are available by paying. But when you're not even given the choice of paying? Interesting.

(FWIW, I plan on watching sunsets in Mazatlan instead of crappy TV sitcoms. I'm thinking it will make me a happier person. And I hear the reruns are always fabulous too!)

To boldly go where no wig has gone before.


talosian


May 19, 2004, 6:22 AM

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I'm not at all interested in sports or sitcoms but I would like to get World news at the least. I have been so overloaded with "things" in the U.S. that I taped the TV shows I really enjoy and I'm taking the VHS tapes with me. I literally have a year of tapes, but I do want to know what is currently happening Worldwide. Of course I know the only things which change are the names and places but I still want to know.

I'm assuming there is no such think as "local" TV in English (or otherwise).

So anything which would bring me in CNN or such will be worth it.

Any thoughts on this one?

Thanks.
"When all logical explanations have failed, we must look to the illogical for the answer.


Rolly


May 19, 2004, 6:34 AM

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DirectTV has a Mexican (Spanish) service that includes CNN International and several other English language channels. There are cable services in various parts of Mexico that have the same or more in English.

US DirectTV reception is not good in most of Mexico. DishTV covers a larger part of the country, but you will need a large dish - mine is 1.9 meters. You cannot subscribe to either service directly from your address in Mexico, but there are some phantom billing schemes that allow you to get the service. There is also a Canadian service that you can get in the A/LC area.

Rolly Pirate


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Uncle Jack


May 19, 2004, 6:35 AM

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"Outside of Chapala".......don't know where that is, but if the local Mexican cable is available in your area, they have 8 to 10 English language channels in addition to the many movies that are broadcast on Mexican channels in English with Spanish subtitles.

Among the English language channels are CNN, CNNfn, and CNN Headline News. The cost of installation is $100 pesos and the monthly charge is $192 pesos...about $17 USD.

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esperanza

May 19, 2004, 6:42 AM

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Regular cable TV (192 pesos/month here in the Lake Chapala area) gives you CNN, CNNfn, CNN Headline News, and cable WGN out of Chicago. You also get ESPN1 and ESPN2, Fox Sports, and other sports networks. In addition, there are numerous movie channels which broadcast movies in English with Spanish subtitles. Cable also offers A&E, People and Arts, several versions of the Discovery channel, the History channel--oh, the list goes on and on. In addition, you will receive enough Spanish-language television to boost your language skills, including movies, sports, soap operas, cartoons, and news.

I once thought that I'd miss the big-three USA networks, but I don't. Most of the stuff is run here on cable anyway--we get ER, Will and Grace, American Idol, Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, some of the home/garden network stuff, some of the reality shows, etc. It's not stuff I watch, but it's there if that's your bag. I've never bothered with satellite. With nearly 70 cable channels, why spend the money?




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esperanza

May 19, 2004, 6:44 AM

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Great minds, UJ, great minds.

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talosian


May 19, 2004, 6:52 AM

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I am in Vista del Lago

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above the country club. I didn't know there was cable in my area. Give me CNN or some other World news station and anything else is frosting on the cake as far as I'm concerned. I'll have to check with my Realtor and ask if there is cable in my development.

Why didn't I think to ask? Hmmmmm, brain fade.

Thanks.
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May 19, 2004, 10:05 AM

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As has been posted many times above, the cable company in the greater Chapala area charges 192 pesos, and its not a bad deal. Channel 2 through 60, about 57 of which provide programming. I went through a couple of times and on an average counted some 20 to 24 channels of which were in English. Some were spanish language channels with English language films which were subtitled in Spanish

The only English language small dish system that comes in well**near Chapala is Star Choice, www.starchoice.com, I watch my Seattle network channels on it. My monthly costs for many many video and audio channels is $62 canadian per month. I bought my system in Canada for less than $200 Canadian or I could have paid around $550 US, a fair price, in Ajijic.

** I use a 3 foot (90cm) dish. The next best receivable system is the US DISH system. One uses a dish of perhaps 1.4 meters for the feeds from the Echostar satellite located at 119 degrees West and should you want the Standard US Dish package one needs a larger parabolic reflector to point at the second DISH satellite located at 110 degrees West, Typically the local dealers sell half systems the ones that only pick up the signals at 119 W for $650 to $750 US. I do not know what the full system would sell for.

Also many of the local dealers are selling pirated cards for DISH. You know ones that allow you to get programming for free. What they don't mention is that DISH is working very hard to upgrade their anti-piracy methods and that as early as this fall, the pirated systems may no longer work.

There is also C band the big dish system which provides great programming from the states. There are many options here. I want HDTV something that is catching on all over the US. That's why I will be keeping my C band. For info about C band, check out www.skyvision.com

THERE IS NO ONE BEST SYSTEM. What you have to do is look at the programming available from each, and the programming is quite different, and determine what is important to you, and then install that system, should that system not be too expensive. There are literally thousands yes thousands of video and audio channels available to you via satellite. You have to just determine what you want. Check out www.lyngsat.com if you really want to be overwhelmed with what is out there


talosian


May 19, 2004, 10:31 AM

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Seems cable will be the best for me if they have it in my development, which they should. As I said, I'm happy with being able to get World news. Maybe in a year when my tapes of shows I made and never had time to watch, I'll look for more but until then, sounds like it's cable for me.

How can I contact the Mexican cable company by email??

Thanks to all here.
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esperanza

May 19, 2004, 12:24 PM

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Ask your real estate agent to take care of getting it turned on for you so that it's ready for your arrival date. Chances are excellent that your house is already wired for it. The real estate person can go to the cable company, do a contract in your name, and pay the fee. You can reimburse them when you get here.




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mepsi

May 19, 2004, 6:55 PM

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Someone whose Spanish is better than mine could probably find what you are looking for on the eBay Mexico site.

Go to the eBay home page and scroll down until you come to a link for the foreign eBay sites; click "Mexico" and you're there. Easier yet, here's a link;

http://www.mercadolibre.com.mx/org-img/html/MLM/he.ml

Monte
 
 
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