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Randy in AGS

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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Are Mexican workers going the way of workers in the USA?

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Hello: While having dinner last night at an excellent, authentic Italian restaurant (owned and operated by Italians), we talked to the owners about how they like living in Aguascalientes (AGS). They were originally from Rome, Italy, and had ´served time´ in Mexico DF, and were ecstatic to leave there and have their up-rooted business prosper in AGS. They then told me that the ´guero´ working for them was from Argentina. The owners then said that it was increasingly hard to find good, dependable help in AGS, as it is such a prosperous area, with many factories, maquiladoras, etc. They advertised in Argentina for help, and the guy that answered the ad was happy to leave there for a decent job in AGS, at least for now.I also noticed when we were at the slaughterhouse last week that there were a couple Filipinos working there. Same story as above; the local job market is too good and workers are getting very picky about what they do for a living. Sounds like a familiar situation coming from rural Oregon, where all of the workers on our families farms are Mexican/Salvadoran/Guatemalan; twety five years ago they were all American (Estadounidenses), but nobody likes to do that kind of work anymore, not even kids in the summer time. Too bad, as some of my fondest memories are of bucking hay bales in the summer. I realize it is not like this everywhere, but it is a rather new phenomenom here. The waves of immigrants are starting to have an effect here, as there are an estimated 1,000,000 Koreans, 100,000 Mennonites, many Lebanese (Carlos Slim) and other sizable immigrant groups.My question would be; how will this impact Mexico in the future, as waves of immigrants start to come here like they did in the USA looking for a better life? Will they assimilate or keep their cultural identity intact here in Mexico?Saludos desde Aguascalientes, Randy

hobbes03

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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I can only write about what I know and have seen mainly about Lebanese in Mexico. I'm Mexican and growing up I've had many friends from Lebanese/Syrian origin. Most of them were 2nd or 3rd generation Mexicans. My friends and their families are pretty much like any other Mexican family and are completely integrated to Mexican culture. Even within my own family some cousins married people of Lebanese descent and it doesn't really matter if they are from Lebanese descent, they live and work alongside other Mexicans and don´t seem to live in Lebanese neighbourhoods or do things that would set them apart from other Mexicans.In my opinion, the Mexicans from Lebanese descent that live in Cd. Victoria are well integrated into the Mexican culture, they are pretty much assimilated. About other groups, I have a first cousin who's third generation Chinese, and he, his father and Granfather (who came from China) were totally assimilated to Mexico as far as can remember. The same goes for some Italian families that my family has been friends with for longer than I've lived.I don´t know about other cultures, but from what I've seen, many seem to assimilate. Of courese other's experiencie could be entirely different.

Uncle Jack

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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This brings up a question.

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Everytime some poor unwitting soul posts a question about working in Mexico the usual cadre of experts immediately point out that it is illegal and "immoral" to take a job in Mexico than can be done by a Mexican. How do all these people that you mentioned get jobs if they are not citizens?

Randy in AGS

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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One way is to be trasferred here.

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Hi Again Uncle Jack: Hey, I forgot to mention that a company in another country can transfer you here, usually for one or two years. That is why there are many Japanese here in AGS and Germans in Jalisco. I knew two Germans who worked for Siemens in GDL last year. They were in their twenties, and had Mexicana girlfriends of course. They were on one year assignments, and then back to the Fatherland. An aside: I have met many people here in Mexico from other countries who are students, engineers, etc. Not one of them had ever heard of Mexconnect, yet had a wealth of information to share about their unique lifestyles here. Too bad Mexconnect can´t seem to attract more of those folks, instead of the cadre of ´anonymous experts´ seem to post here. Saludos desde Aguascalientes, Randy
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: Everytime some poor unwitting soul posts a question about working in Mexico the usual cadre of experts immediately point out that it is illegal and "immoral" to take a job in Mexico than can be done by a Mexican. How do all these people that you mentioned get jobs if they are not citizens?

Randy in AGS

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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Cubans in Arandas...

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Hi Uncle Jack: I forgot to mention the Cuban family that was ´sponsored´ to come to Arandas, Jalisco by a local family, the Valles. They opened a popular new cafe/bar that the teens/twenty somethings like to frequent. They were glad to leave Cuba, and come to a place where their efforts are rewarded in a more lucrative way. It seems if you can come to Mexico and start a business that Mexicans support and patronize, then you are not taking any jobs away from the locals. Quite the contrary; job creation is taking place. I don´t pretend to be an expert in immigration, but I know that many Italians, Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Lebanese, etc. are here in AGS, Jalisco and Zacatecas and are thriving in their own ventures.In fact, I met another Italian today, who works at John Deere, selling an Italian-made line of mixer wagons (for dairy cow ration mixing). He has been in AGS for ten years and loves it. In fact, in addition to these Italians here in AGS, I met a few who had businesses in Nuevo Vallarta. They seem to enjoy doing business here in Mexico for whatever reason.Saludos desde Aguascalientes, RandyP.S. Did you see my posting on the Wild Turkey hunting here in AGS? My friend in Oregon is planning on coming down in the spring as my brother in laws and I are going on one of those hunts in the nearby Sierra Fria.____________________________________________________________________
: Everytime some poor unwitting soul posts a question about working in Mexico the usual cadre of experts immediately point out that it is illegal and "immoral" to take a job in Mexico than can be done by a Mexican. How do all these people that you mentioned get jobs if they are not citizens?

Dan the Man

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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Wild Turkey hunting

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Randall;
The only thing I like better than hunting Wild Turkey is hunting Wild Turkey with my friends Jack Daniels and Jim Beam. Sometimes we even let Jose Cuervo tag along! We may not find any Wild Turkey, but we always have a hell of a time! Saludos,
Dan

pedro

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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Wild Turkey hunting

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i hunted down wild turkey many years ago and we are now very friendly-much to the chagrin of jack and jim