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jeff426

Jun 12, 2017, 8:39 AM

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Good Morning Everyone,

Just got off the phone with the Mexican Consulate in Chicago and they suggested that it was possible with a permit to have a foriegn plated car in Mexico?? That does not seem correct. I thought we had to either nationalize a car at the border or buy a car in Mexico?
Could someone shed some light on this situation for us and thank you in advance!!

Jeff



rvgringo

Jun 12, 2017, 9:13 AM

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Once you have a Residente Permanente visa, you are prohibited from having a foreign vehicle in Mexico, or even driving one without the owner present in the vehicle; unless the owner is your spouse & has only a temporary visa or tourist permit.
Note: Consulates are not a reliable source for information on customs or immigration laws and rules. Consulates are part of the Secretariat of External Affairs; sort of like our State Department. Mexican federal departments do not communicate well with each other, and seldom care if their rules are in conflict. Employees are often poorly trained and patronism is rampant.


jeff426

Jun 12, 2017, 10:22 AM

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Hey Rvgringo,

Next question, I'm residente permanente, my wife is Residente Temporal and her card expires 11/28/2017, we assume she must renew and get a residente permanente. Is that true? Which if true, would mean that by 11/29, the car l, if foriegn plated, would be illegally in Mexico.
So, any car we own in Mexico would either have to be nationalized or purchased in Mexico?
Thank you

Jeff


AlanMexicali


Jun 12, 2017, 10:39 AM

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Hey Rvgringo,

Next question, I'm residente permanente, my wife is Residente Temporal and her card expires 11/28/2017, we assume she must renew and get a residente permanente. Is that true? Which if true, would mean that by 11/29, the car l, if foriegn plated, would be illegally in Mexico.
So, any car we own in Mexico would either have to be nationalized or purchased in Mexico?
Thank you

Jeff



She has 4 years on her RT visa/card then - correct? If not she can wait to go to RP.


jeff426

Jun 12, 2017, 10:55 AM

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On her RT card, the expiration is 11/28/2017, are you saying she can renew that for 2 more years before she has to go Residente Permanente?

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AlanMexicali


Jun 12, 2017, 1:08 PM

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On her RT card, the expiration is 11/28/2017, are you saying she can renew that for 2 more years before she has to go Residente Permanente?

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Yes.


rvgringo

Jun 12, 2017, 1:29 PM

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Has she had her Residente Temporal visa for one year, or will she have had it for a total of four years when that expiration date arrives.?
If she has had it for a total of four years, she has the right to apply for Residente Permanente without financial qualifications. Alternatively, she may drive out of the country and let it expire; then applying for a new Temporal visa and returning with a fresh Importada Temporal for the car.
If she plans to convert to Permanente, the car must be removed from Mexico before that happens, getting the receipt from Banjercito as she exports the car. With both of you Permanente, you will need to buy a vehicle in Mexico, preferably in the state where you live. Neither of you will be able to own, or drive a foreign plated vehicle.


RickS


Jun 12, 2017, 1:44 PM

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So to summarize: Your wife can stay Temporal a total of 4 years, renewing each year with INM. She can 'choose' to go Permanente at one of those annual times, after 2 (I believe it is 2).

When 'she' crosses the border she can, assuming her name is on the title of the vehicle, get a Temporary Importation Permit on the vehicle... which would normally be good for 180 days. When her Temporal comes due for renewal in November 2017 she can renew the Temporal and ALSO renew the TIP... "assigning" it to her Temporal. This is NOT automatic so she will have to contact the correct authorities to make sure the 'attachment' occurs. She must do both these things every year until she has reached 4 years on Temporal.

Once/before she goes Permanente, at whatever year, she MUST remove the vehicle from Mexico. She cannot sell it to anyone in Mexico, gringo nor Mexican National.

BTW, as her spouse, you can drive the vehicle, even if she is not in the vehicle, even though you are Permanente.

You mentioned Nationalizing as a potential. Only certain vehicles can be Nationalized and there is a fairly steep fee to pay to do so... $2500 is a good estimate depending on age, etc. Nationalization can ONLY be done by an authorized broker AT the border. Many people, after 4 years, remove the vehicle from Mexico and purchase a Mexican titled vehicle.


AlanMexicali


Jun 12, 2017, 2:07 PM

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So to summarize: Your wife can stay Temporal a total of 4 years, renewing each year with INM. She can 'choose' to go Permanente at one of those annual times, after 2 (I believe it is 2).


A first timer using the "Vinculo Familiar" law gets a 2 year RT then can renew for 1 or 2 years, not every year when married to a RP. Not using the "Vinculo Failiar" law but financial solvency at a Mx. Consulate they get a 1 year RT visa/card and then can renew for 1, 2, or 3 years. If they want to switch to RP after 2 years using the "Vinculo Familiar" law being married to a RP then there is no financial solvency, I think.

Maybe the spouse has to show another $550.00 USD deposit above the RP mínimum amount if the spouse has no retirement income when applying at a Mx. Consulate the first time.


(This post was edited by AlanMexicali on Jun 12, 2017, 2:08 PM)


RickS


Jun 12, 2017, 2:15 PM

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Thanks for that clarification, Alan.


jeff426

Jun 13, 2017, 1:47 AM

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Thank you very much for the clarifications!

Jeff
 
 
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