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Arlene

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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First of all lemme tell ya little bit..I have been married for 7 years and have 5 children..My husband is from Mexico,Im from US..We were working on the Immigration issues and from the time we started til now on Lawyers Forms and Ect..We have 9000 in it.. Only to get a paper from Immigration last week saying his petition for Green Card has been denied.Work permit will be immediatly terminated,,and has to exit the country immediatly.. Why because in 1993-1994 he had a deportation and a voluntery deportation...Can petition to get him back but could take several years.. Now my question is..How hard is it to find a job and place to live there//And with 5 kids will we ever make it money wise there? We would be moving to the Ojo De Agua Del Refugio area in Guanajuato,Mx..Hes leaving tommorow(has family there that he hasnt seen since he left when he was 15)bui cant imagin staying here by myself..I just want to pick up and go! I do speak rather fluent spanish. Any ideas or suggestion would be Sooooo apprecitated.. Thank You so much!!

Mereja

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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Another suggestion if the appeal doesn't work, is to live somewhere on the border and you cross over to the US to work while your husband finds work or starts his own business in Mexico. That way you wouldn't be leaving your small children for such a long period of time like 6 months to stay here and work. There are some other posters on the forum who are or have done this while waiting for their spouses papers, although they didn't have 5 kids. There are some small ranchitos in Guanajuato that are very poor and it could be hard to make it there. If you have some money saved up, you could try to find work teaching english in a larger town there.Let us know what happens later. I will be in Michoacan and Guanajuato (my husband has an aunt in a town named Los Rodriguez) in October and November.Mereja: First of all lemme tell ya little bit..I have been married for 7 years and have 5 children..My husband is from Mexico,Im from US..We were working on the Immigration issues and from the time we started til now on Lawyers Forms and Ect..We have 9000 in it.. Only to get a paper from Immigration last week saying his petition for Green Card has been denied.Work permit will be immediatly terminated,,and has to exit the country immediatly.. Why because in 1993-1994 he had a deportation and a voluntery deportation...Can petition to get him back but could take several years.. Now my question is..How hard is it to find a job and place to live there//And with 5 kids will we ever make it money wise there? We would be moving to the Ojo De Agua Del Refugio area in Guanajuato,Mx..Hes leaving tommorow(has family there that he hasnt seen since he left when he was 15)bui cant imagin staying here by myself..I just want to pick up and go! I do speak rather fluent spanish. Any ideas or suggestion would be Sooooo apprecitated.. Thank You so much!!

Michael

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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: First of all lemme tell ya little bit..I have been married for 7 years and have 5 children..My husband is from Mexico,Im from US..We were working on the Immigration issues and from the time we started til now on Lawyers Forms and Ect..We have 9000 in it.. Only to get a paper from Immigration last week saying his petition for Green Card has been denied.Work permit will be immediatly terminated,,and has to exit the country immediatly.. Why because in 1993-1994 he had a deportation and a voluntery deportation...Can petition to get him back but could take several years.. Now my question is..How hard is it to find a job and place to live there//And with 5 kids will we ever make it money wise there? We would be moving to the Ojo De Agua Del Refugio area in Guanajuato,Mx..Hes leaving tommorow(has family there that he hasnt seen since he left when he was 15)bui cant imagin staying here by myself..I just want to pick up and go! I do speak rather fluent spanish. Any ideas or suggestion would be Sooooo apprecitated.. Thank You so much!! Yes I would say that normally you would wan't to stay in Mexico and if you have a job that pay's well I would just send my children to mexico to live with there father for six months to a year while I you work that is if you have a good job that is going to make you money. I think in thid country in one year if you are motivated you should be able to make enough money to live down there with your family for at least a years time with out working. But at the same time you should look at your prospect's in starting your own buisness in Mexico. I do not know what skills your husband has but if he had the backing of money coming in from the states and he is a motivated latin man not to be condisending then I don't see why you would have any problem it will be a little rough at first but that is just life.. Also the fact that you speak spanis and english I am sure that you should be able to get a job there translating or teaching english.. One thing I would do very fast though is go get your fm3 or I don't know it may work differently for you since you are married.. So I don't know if this is going to help you any but that isi the most I can come up with. Adeu

Different Sam...possible rationale for denial!

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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First, the basis for the denial of the adjustment of status and residency for your husband was the deportation and the voluntary departure. Your lawyer handling the case should have reviewed his immigration file and should have filed for a pardon of this forced deportation. The request is discretionary, but should of been filed as an adjunct to the then pending residency petition. The pardon could have been premised on the "hardship" provisions which allow for such deportation to be viewed in light of the effects a non pardon would have on the US born children and spouse. Given the number of children, it might have stood a good chance. Secondly, as to the deportation, you must look into the nature of the act which led to the deportation. If it was for a drug related offense, well "hasta la vista", as INS/Justice Department has zero tolerance for pardons on drug related offenses/convictions and their related deportations. If it was after the initial voluntary departure your husband would have signed a letter to consent to the deportation which also provides that he will not re-enter the country illegally and if he does he waives all rights to be considered "landed" and thus cannot the avail himself of immigration benefit based on your marriage. In short once again you are out of luck. My best advice to you is to go through the appeals process. A good immigration lawyer can get you about 3-5 years of play using this appeal and while in appeal your husband can apply and must be granted a temporary work permit. Then while the appeal is pending you could get a local senator or congressman to review the basis for denial also using the hardship on your family as a mitigating factor. This about sums it up. Good luck. PS: your 9,000 dollar lawyer should have explained all of this to you!

Georgia

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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Different Sam's advice is good. Follow it. Immigration appeals take forever and in the meantime there can be changes (which are constant) in the immigration law which will benefit you. : From those I have meet here in the States that is a LOT OF MONEY !
: They have all done it for less than half that amount.
: Hind sight is always 20x20 but maybe you both should have gotten other matters in better order before you started a family.
: May this be a lesson in life that others may learn from.
: What else can be said ?
: He can not stay here ! He is now considered Illegal and you could be found as an accsessory to the crime if you harbor him etc etc.
: You will starve down there, that's why he came up here in the first place.
: Your here for the moment and you can be glad the USA is not deporting him as we speak, some countries do it that fast, Mexico can be one of those by the way.
: So what are you going to do? Now might be a real good time to look to the Lord for Help . Cause I don't know what else to say to you. Not condemning you , just very thankful this story is not mine or one of my children's

Observer

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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WOW is about all I can say because

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From those I have meet here in the States that is a LOT OF MONEY !
They have all done it for less than half that amount.
Hind sight is always 20x20 but maybe you both should have gotten other matters in better order before you started a family.
May this be a lesson in life that others may learn from.
What else can be said ?
He can not stay here ! He is now considered Illegal and you could be found as an accsessory to the crime if you harbor him etc etc.
You will starve down there, that's why he came up here in the first place.
Your here for the moment and you can be glad the USA is not deporting him as we speak, some countries do it that fast, Mexico can be one of those by the way.
So what are you going to do? Now might be a real good time to look to the Lord for Help . Cause I don't know what else to say to you. Not condemning you , just very thankful this story is not mine or one of my children's

Jalisciense

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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Muy buen empleo del dicho--mfmsg

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: Different Sam's advice is good. Follow it. Immigration appeals take forever and in the meantime there can be changes (which are constant) in the immigration law which will benefit you. : : From those I have meet here in the States that is a LOT OF MONEY !
: : They have all done it for less than half that amount.
: : Hind sight is always 20x20 but maybe you both should have gotten other matters in better order before you started a family.
: : May this be a lesson in life that others may learn from.
: : What else can be said ?
: : He can not stay here ! He is now considered Illegal and you could be found as an accsessory to the crime if you harbor him etc etc.
: : You will starve down there, that's why he came up here in the first place.
: : Your here for the moment and you can be glad the USA is not deporting him as we speak, some countries do it that fast, Mexico can be one of those by the way.
: : So what are you going to do? Now might be a real good time to look to the Lord for Help . Cause I don't know what else to say to you. Not condemning you , just very thankful this story is not mine or one of my children's

Georgia

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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Mil gracias. nfmsg

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: : Different Sam's advice is good. Follow it. Immigration appeals take forever and in the meantime there can be changes (which are constant) in the immigration law which will benefit you. : : : From those I have meet here in the States that is a LOT OF MONEY !
: : : They have all done it for less than half that amount.
: : : Hind sight is always 20x20 but maybe you both should have gotten other matters in better order before you started a family.
: : : May this be a lesson in life that others may learn from.
: : : What else can be said ?
: : : He can not stay here ! He is now considered Illegal and you could be found as an accsessory to the crime if you harbor him etc etc.
: : : You will starve down there, that's why he came up here in the first place.
: : : Your here for the moment and you can be glad the USA is not deporting him as we speak, some countries do it that fast, Mexico can be one of those by the way.
: : : So what are you going to do? Now might be a real good time to look to the Lord for Help . Cause I don't know what else to say to you. Not condemning you , just very thankful this story is not mine or one of my children's

Andy in Aguas

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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....although most of the post sounds very discouraging. When you say "look to the Lord for Help", that is the best advise anyone can give! Sometimes we need to be way down before we can look up! My God is the God of impossible situations!: From those I have meet here in the States that is a LOT OF MONEY !
: They have all done it for less than half that amount.
: Hind sight is always 20x20 but maybe you both should have gotten other matters in better order before you started a family.
: May this be a lesson in life that others may learn from.
: What else can be said ?
: He can not stay here ! He is now considered Illegal and you could be found as an accsessory to the crime if you harbor him etc etc.
: You will starve down there, that's why he came up here in the first place.
: Your here for the moment and you can be glad the USA is not deporting him as we speak, some countries do it that fast, Mexico can be one of those by the way.
: So what are you going to do? Now might be a real good time to look to the Lord for Help . Cause I don't know what else to say to you. Not condemning you , just very thankful this story is not mine or one of my children's

Andy in Aguas

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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I think you misunderstood me, Dan

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If I would have written that post, I would have written it in a very different manner. I prefer to try to do everything I can to help people who are having problems rather than to condemn them or to call them stupid (as some posters on this message board have done). But, I still believe that God is smarter than we are and He is willing to help us when we have problems if we turn to Him. That is the message that I was trying to get across. : You say "although most of the post sounds very discouraging..." It's not just discouraging, it's downright mean and judgemental. To me, it's not a very Christian thing to say to somebody who's having a problem such as this. I don't want to start a religious debate, but I totally disagree with you.

Sam

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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Looks like you're caught between a rock and a hard place. You asked: "..How hard is it to find a job and place to live there//And with 5 kids will we ever make it money wise there?"GTO historically has exported workers to the US since there is very little remunerative employment there. Wages per month will not exceed more than 3,000 pesos and that is the high end. Low end wages are around 25 (twenty five) pesos per day. Even locals can not make ends meet. My advice is to stay where you are.Best of luck to you

Dan the Man

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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C'mon, Andy!

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You say "although most of the post sounds very discouraging..." It's not just discouraging, it's downright mean and judgemental. To me, it's not a very Christian thing to say to somebody who's having a problem such as this. I don't want to start a religious debate, but I totally disagree with you.

Observer

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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Yes he is and I too know him well

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Though I stumble fall and scrap my knees I get back up to follow My Lord all over again .
The Path is Straight the gate is narrow

Dan the Man

Nov 30, 1919, 12:00 AM

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I guess I did, sorry. (nmsg.)

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: If I would have written that post, I would have written it in a very different manner. I prefer to try to do everything I can to help people who are having problems rather than to condemn them or to call them stupid (as some posters on this message board have done). But, I still believe that God is smarter than we are and He is willing to help us when we have problems if we turn to Him. That is the message that I was trying to get across. : : You say "although most of the post sounds very discouraging..." It's not just discouraging, it's downright mean and judgemental. To me, it's not a very Christian thing to say to somebody who's having a problem such as this. I don't want to start a religious debate, but I totally disagree with you.