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Intercasa

Nov 26, 2015, 8:23 PM

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Retorno Seguro Update November 2015

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We went to present another retorno seguro on Tuesday of this week (November 24, 2015) and had it rejected. The rules changed and the new ones took effect Monday, November 23, 2015 and they will now only accept them in Mexico City and once they receive all the papers (there are new forms and they now require the vehicle titles to be translated officially into Spanish) they have 15 business days to respond and the person or their legal representative must personally pick up the retorno seguro in Mexico City.

Prior to this we were getting them done at the SAT offices in Guadalajara and Zapopan and we usually would be able to turn them around in 3 to 5 business days from the time the person signed papers at our office. Now the cost will be much higher and logistically it will be more difficult for people to plan their trips as they will need to submit the papers week in advance and not have much idea of when the retorno seguro will arrive needing to be ready to go at a moments notice for a few weeks.

Effectively this will stop all retorno seguros this year as the holidays are coming soon and maybe longer until we get a handle on how they will apply the new regulations.

They also want proof of address but what if a person rents? Also they want a notarized power of attorney, so now people will pay extra for that, also they ask people to attach their tourist visa, what if they are Mexican or temporal or permanentes? Also copy of the Banjercito receipt, what if nobody kept it as most people throw them away?

We will file a complaint with PRODECON as this new policy will wreak havoc and make it difficult if not impossible for people to comply and if they can then the cost will be thousands of pesos extra. For now we are trying to sort out the new regulation and things that they did not provide for so that we can give people answers and help ease them into the new system.

4.2.20. Para efectos de lo dispuesto en el artículo 183, fracción II, segundo párrafo de la Ley, los propietarios de vehículos de procedencia extranjera que hayan sido importados o internados temporalmente a territorio nacional en términos de las reglas 3.4.6. y 4.2.7., y cuyo plazo para el retorno haya vencido, podrán presentar una solicitud mediante escrito libre en los términos de la regla 1.2.2., utilizando el formato "Solicitud de autorización para el retorno de vehículos extranjeros con permiso de importación temporal de vehículos vencidos, de conformidad con la regla 4.2.20.", ante la ACAJACE, cumpliendo con lo establecido en su instructivo de trámite.
El beneficio señalado en la presente regla, no será aplicable cuando la autoridad haya iniciado el ejercicio de facultades de comprobación.
Mexican licensed attorney (Cédula #7928026) and official court translator (Perito Traductor). Mx 376-765-7553, USA 805-683-4848

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RickS


Nov 26, 2015, 8:33 PM

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Re: [Intercasa] Retorno Seguro Update November 2015

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Thanks for that update Spencer, and yes that is very onerous and will effectively eliminate that method of getting vehicles out of Mexico whose TIP has been invalidated by some event (expiration, owner changed to Permanente etc).

Good luck with the complaint, and I'm sure you'll let all Mexconnect Posters know if something changes over time.


playaboy

Nov 27, 2015, 9:31 AM

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Re: [RickS] Retorno Seguro Update November 2015

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Once the TIP is no longer valid, is there any other methods besides a returno seguro for legally taking a car to the USA?


YucaLandia


Nov 27, 2015, 11:16 AM

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RickS


Nov 27, 2015, 2:12 PM

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Re: [YucaLandia] Retorno Seguro Update November 2015

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I checked into that earlier this year from San Miguel to N. Laredo..... $1,000 US equivalent....


AlanMexicali


Nov 27, 2015, 3:40 PM

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I checked into that earlier this year from San Miguel to N. Laredo..... $1,000 US equivalent....



My friend, 3 weeks ago, transported a small car from San Diego to Washington DC for $500.00 US. The Mexicali newspaper had ads for tansporting cars from as far as Puerto Vallarta or Guadalajara to Mexicali or vice versa a few years ago for $375 US and cars from Mexicali to Las Vegas for $400.00 US and San Francisco for $600 US and Seattle Wash. for $750 US from Mexicali. $1000 US seems high.


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RickS


Nov 27, 2015, 3:46 PM

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Alan, I need your friend's name!!!

The $1,000 was a quote I got in August. A follow-up quote from Laredo to Colorado was also around $1,000, after I somehow got the car through customs from N. Laredo. This was one of several quotes for the US part.


AlanMexicali


Nov 27, 2015, 5:05 PM

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Alan, I need your friend's name!!!

The $1,000 was a quote I got in August. A follow-up quote from Laredo to Colorado was also around $1,000, after I somehow got the car through customs from N. Laredo. This was one of several quotes for the US part.



I´ll ask which carrier he used for you and PM the info.
 
 
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