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at7mbe


May 10, 2015, 12:11 PM

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My May 9 electric bill from CFE contained a nice surprise: a big red box saying "Bajaron las tarifas de luz en todo el país para la industria, los comercios y los hogares." (Lower electric rates across the country for industry, trade and homes.) A further note on the back says that for those on the high consumption DAC rate, rates have declined 7% from last year. For domestic consumers not on the DAC rate, which previously climbed 4% every year, they're now 2% lower than last year.
I'm on the normal, non-DAC rate, and sure enough, the rates on my March/April bill are 2% lower than on my Nov/Dec bill. Furthermore, the rates on my March/April bill are the same as on my Jan/Feb bill, hinting that the former policy of rate increases with every single bill have been suspended for the remainder of 2015.
This is similar to what we've found with Pemex and with propane -- after the January increase, the price will be frozen for the rest of this year.
It's a far cry from a market economy, but it does hold out hope that the automatic inflation it contributes to the cost of goods and services has been suspended for awhile.
-- Mark



johanson


May 10, 2015, 3:11 PM

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That is really hard to believe :) I am not questioning you :) I thought the rates were terribly high in 2007 when I was paying DAC along the shores of Lake Chapala. My bills were usually over $3,000 pesos every 2 months. Why? Mostly because I live on 3/4 of an acre and have to pump water up from one street below to the first water tank (Aljibe) at the bottom of my property, then up to the top Aljibe near the top of my property and then run the sprinklers using another pump, etc etc.
Well right before the stock crash in 2007 I sold some stock and I invested in a photo voltaic solar system and today I'm billed monthly but usually for not much more than $24 pesos per month. Yes I have a lot of solar panels and yes they were expensive, but the investment gave me a much better rate of return than did the stock market.


DigYourself

May 10, 2015, 3:29 PM

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I have not looked at the recent CFE bills for the cost of a kwh, but before we installed our 10 panel PV system we were very close to entering DAC (250 kwh / month here). Another factor - we used to have 3 of the old fashioned spinning dial meters. Apparently those meters ran slow and we were really using perhaps 15-20% more electricity than we were paying for. CFE has since replaced those old meters in our neighborhood with digital meters. oh - for perhaps the last 10 months our CFE bills are running the minimum 26 pesos. It is hot here at the moment and we are running the pool pump a lot and fans in the evening - this will be the real test.


johanson


May 10, 2015, 3:57 PM

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I can't believe it, at7mbe. Every time in the past, when I would trace the cost of electricity per KWH, the rates would go up each year. This time for the first time I have noticed when I went back to the Apr 2012 DAC KW rate. It was higher in 2012 than it is today. I don't get it.


Thanks for pointing this out :)

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AlanMexicali


May 10, 2015, 6:54 PM

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I can't believe it, at7mbe. Every time in the past, when I would trace the cost of electricity per KWH, the rates would go up each year. This time for the first time I have noticed when I went back to the Apr 2012 DAC KW rate. It was higher in 2012 than it is today. I don't get it.


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http://app.cfe.gob.mx/Aplicaciones/CCFE/Tarifas/Tarifas/tarifas_casa.asp

It appears it went up a bit this year also.


They adjust the tariff rates down slightly every April from "Out of the summer" to "In the summer" per KWH though. Possibly this is what they mean when they print "Bajaron las tarifas de luz en todo el país para la industria, los comercios y los hogares." on the bills.


(This post was edited by RickS on May 11, 2015, 9:49 AM)


at7mbe


May 10, 2015, 9:02 PM

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@AlanMexicali:
Using the tariffs link that you posted, it appears that DAC rates began declining in 2014 as well as 2015. For Tariff 1, which I'm on in Michoacán, I'll stand by my statement that rates increased every month in 2014, and have declined and were then frozen in 2015. I didn't look closely at the the split summer rates, since they don't apply to me -- I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader. Here are the Tariff 1 rates from September 2014 to May 2015:

Month Básico Intermedio Excedente
Sep. 2014 0.816 0.987 2.889
Oct. 2014 0.819 0.990 2.898
Nov. 2014 0.822 0.993 2.907
Dec. 2014 0.825 0.996 2.917
Jan. 2015 0.809 0.976 2.859
Feb. 2015
0.809 0.976 2.859
Mar. 2015
0.809 0.976 2.859
Apr. 2015
0.809 0.976 2.859
May. 2015
0.809 0.976 2.859

(sorry, can't get fixed-font spaces to be retained in the table so columns line up)

For DAC tariffs, I looked at two regions -- Central and Norte y Noreste -- for the same period. The Fixed Charges are the same for both regions; the price per kilowatt hour varies by region:

Central Norte y Noreste
Month Fixed_Charge $/KWH
$/KWH
Sep. 2014 79.94 3.834 3.500
Oct. 2014 80.12 3.784 3.454
Nov. 2014 80.35 3.771 3.442
Dec. 2014 80.69 3.756 3.428
Jan. 2015 80.63 3.664 3.344
Feb. 2015
81.82 3.621 3.305
Mar. 2015
82.20 3.525 3.218
Apr. 2015
82.57 3.441 3.141
May 2015
83.09 3.423 3.125

For DAC, the fixed charge is increasing slightly, while the per KWH charge is marching steadily downward. If you look at the rest of 2014 online, the rates go both up and down between January and September. But starting in September, 2014, the per KWH charge has gone down every month.

-- Mark



johanson


May 11, 2015, 11:03 AM

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I went into the charts too, like I always used to until two or three years ago and was very happily shocked. I can't believe what I read, even though I know it's the truth


Thanks very must for your post, at7mbe.
 
 
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