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scared

Apr 30, 2015, 9:29 AM

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Hello... I need some advice....
I was hired for a job at a Resort in Puerto Vallarta in July 2014 . They were to do my work visa and didn't....My son is a manager for a resort in Playa Del Carmen and convinced me to come here and said his resort would take care of it.... They didn't!!

About 2 weeks ago my son and I had a huge fight about it.. I was living with him. He threw me out.

I am staying with a friend here. I have enough money for a plane fair back to the states... But not enough to pay the penalty for my overstay. In the last 9 months I have spent the money I had thinking I would be working soon...I have no way to get anymore funds and no other family.

My question is what happens if I go to the airport and can't pay the fine?? I am told it's 70 pesos a day???? I am now 3 months over. My friend said she could drive me to Belize... But I still can't pay the fine... We thought maybe it would be easier to go to Chetumal and take the water ferry into Belize???

I am 60 years old and just want to get out of Mexico and never come back!!

Please... Any advice would be helpful... I have contacted an immigration attorney... But they want too much money... If I pay them...I won't have enough for airfare!!

My son won't help me and I'm scared!!

Thank you in advance!



rvgringo

Apr 30, 2015, 11:05 AM

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You evidently depended upon your employers to take care of you and did not realize that you can only work in Mexico with a residence visa, not a tourist permit, and that the employer must be registered with INM and is required to support your visa application before you enter the country and start work; too late for that now. The residence visa must be applied for in your home country, at a Mexican Consulate. Then, it must be completed with INM at your destination in Mexico with proof of residence address.
Now, to your present situation: You might want to consider taking a bus to a border town and walking across the border, directly to the US immigration checkpoint, and cross into the USA with your passport. Otherwise, you can pay the fine for your neglecting to leave Mexico on time, and then take a bus to the the USA, which is much less expensive than flying. A third option is to offer to pay half the gasoline to ride north with someone else; but they may not want to take a chance on transporting an illegal alien.


scared

Apr 30, 2015, 11:39 AM

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Thanks rvgringo ...But there isn't any bus service from Cancun to the U.S. border without going to Mexico city first.. It would be cheaper to fly...
What do you think about taking the water ferry into Belize rather than the bus to Belize???
And... Again.. What will happen if I don't have the money for the penalty for the overstay??


rvgringo

Apr 30, 2015, 11:49 AM

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I am not familiar with the Belize crossings, but if they are like most crossings elsewhere, there should be no need to check out with Mexican INM. Just check into Belize with your passport, then return to Mexico later with a new FMM tourist permit.
If you can get on a domestic flight without a Mexican document, then that might be one option to explore. From Mexico, DF, you could take a bus to anywhere you wish.
Why not ask around in your area, among those who have visited Belize, or those who have flown out of the Yucatan to DF?


scared

Apr 30, 2015, 11:57 AM

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I have... Just wondering what to expect at the border... Scared they will put me in jail!!!!....maybe cross at Belize then fly from Belize to home.

Thanks for your help!


chinagringo


Apr 30, 2015, 12:19 PM

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I don't think any of us can tell you exactly what to expect at various border crossings since there are often inconsistent procedures. We did get caught with expired FMT's (previous version) of tourist permit. But we were caught going back into Mexico and the fine was $5/day. Granted things may have changed but we never had our documents checked when driving out of Mexico unless we stopped to have them cancelled.
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



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RickS


Apr 30, 2015, 7:35 PM

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Consider flying Cancun to Monterrey (Viva, Interjet, Aeromexico) for $100. There are many cheap busses from there to a border town such as Reynosa. Walk across.


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hunteradvisor


May 1, 2015, 7:41 AM

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What about showing up at the airport with her passport and paying the fine ($50) for losing her tourist visa and then off she goes?
Isabel
www.RanchoSolyMar.com


robt65

May 1, 2015, 9:36 AM

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I think RickS has it right.
Surely much closer and less expensive if you are leaving the country for good to the USA.
Regards,
Robt65


playaboy

May 1, 2015, 7:34 PM

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try driving down to the free zone. if you get stopped by immigration on your way out just tell him you're going to the casinos. when you come back into Mexico come back as if you were a tourist. maybe you can get away with that. with the way things are computerized it's getting tougher to pull that stuff off. Good luck


chinagringo


May 1, 2015, 7:57 PM

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Playaboy:
We got caught via the "in stamp" and NO "out stamp" on one of our Passports. As I stated earlier, we had never been checked when driving out of Mexico for documents.
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



playaboy

May 2, 2015, 5:03 AM

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China, you are correct, he might get caught. The computer system INM is using now tracks everything. INM employee's are better trained now. I flew in to GDL yesterday and INM has new signage at each desk telling everyone with a visa or RT,RP cards that they must show them to the officer.

As you said, Driving out nobody stops you. I cross the border frequently. I make it my business to stop and check out of the country. Then again I am coming back.

Busses get stopped all the time and checked. They are looking for central americans trying to get to the States. I have seen new INM checkpoints on hwy 186 at the Palenque turnoff and on HWY 15 between Tepeic and Mazatlan. TJ airport has INM agents in the domestic bagage area checking incoming passengers for papers.

The Chetumal border has a lot of foot traffic going back and forth to the free shopping zone and casino's. This is a no mans land. Belize immigration is on the other side of the zone. You can leave Mexoco and not officially enter Belize. Just go fill out a new FMM when returning to MX as if nothing is amiss. It is also a border, that in the past, can be "bought".


AlanMexicali


May 2, 2015, 9:30 AM

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TJ airport has INM agents in the domestic bagage area checking incoming passengers for papers. .


I think they only have one baggage claim area at the remodeled TJ airport, international and national flights. INM has been checking foreign looking travellers coming into the baggage claim area for about 1 1/2 years now.

At the Mexicali airport INM officers not only ask foreign looking travellers for your "Documents to be in Mexico" they ask all passengers for ID as in an IFE card entering their baggage claim area. This is also for about 1 1/2 years.


playaboy

May 2, 2015, 9:45 AM

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In TJ they have been asking passengers for their paperwork at the baggage claim area for over a decade. I got asked 10 years ago for my FM T as I was leaving the baggage area. this is nothing new. I'm not sure about other airports.


playaboy

May 5, 2015, 6:58 AM

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I drove across the border to Laredo yesterday. There was a INM checkpoint on the northbound side at the 20k marker. They were pulling over all the buses.
 
 
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