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S & C

Jan 12, 2014, 11:04 AM

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renewing a TIP at Belize border

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Does anyone know how to renew a TIP at the Belize border?
Can it even be done there?
I brought a car down in 2010 before the new laws changed. I was told by various people that the car was "grandfathered" and that I didn't need to renew my TIP.
We now have Temorary resident cards expire in 2016.
I also heard that Federal Police probably will not think I am "grandfathered" and I am in danger of having the car confiscated.
If we drive to Belize, I assume we would turn in the old TIP at Mex Aduana. Can they issue a new one w/o needing to enter Belize?
If not, does Belize have any wrinkles with my taking a US car there?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Stan



RickS


Jan 12, 2014, 12:41 PM

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Re: [S & C] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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Stan, others may reply with first hand info, but what I think I know is.....

+ One does not actually 'renew' an automobile TIP. It is good for 180 days prior to which the vehicle must be removed from Mexico.
+ Q Roo is actually has "Frontera" (sp) status which means that one does NOT need a TIP while within the state. You, of course, had to have one while getting to Q Roo but not once within. This is similar to parts of the US border Mexican states and Baja. As long as you don't need to go to Yucatan which does require a TIP, you are good to go.
+ The border with Belize is the same as any other border.... all services including turning in (cancelling) and getting a TIP, if needed, are available there.
+ Unless you are told otherwise, I would think it prudent to go to the Belize border and cancel you existing TIP.... assuming you are still within the 180 days from purchase (probably not the case since you brought it down in 2010!) or have been annually updating your visa status with Aduana. Otherwise you will forfeit the deposit you paid on it, if any was paid.... and Aduana might have you forever with a status of "did not remove car from Mexico".
+ I have never heard of any "grandfathering" with respect to TIPs.
+ IF you find you have to go to the Belize border to cancel the old TIP, you should have no problems as it is 'just another border crossing' and plenty of people in "the Yucatan Penn" go to that border to do any visa/TIP transactions they may need.
+ I have heard, but have no personal experience, that it might be better to go into Belize for a few hours and not just try to have the same agent cancel a TIP and then try to get another. Since you apparently will not need to get another TIP (unless you need one because you need to go into Yucatan state often) this may not apply to you. But just to be 'safe' why not just drive the few km down to Corozol and shop or have a beer for a while before crossing back into Mexico.
+ I understand there might be some "right ways" and some "wrong ways" to leave and come back into Mexico when one has the new Residente Temporal visa. Make sure you are up to date on that requirement.


YucaLandia


Jan 12, 2014, 1:42 PM

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Re: [S & C] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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It's very easy to do at the Subteniente López / Corozal (Santa Helena) border crossing outside of Chetumal.

You do not even leave Mexico (unless you want to**). You make a little left/U-turn into Banjercito's little parking lot - have Banjercito start the cancellation/surrender process. Then get your new TIP, and continue in Mexico without ever crossing the river/border. I have done it twice for friends, and it is easy as long as you have your original TIP paper permit and the windshield sticker is intact.

Read a detailed account at:
Updates to Aduana, INM & Banjercito Procedures for Visas and Importing Cars – The Article

Arrive before Banjercito's 5:00 pm closing time.
Maybe plan a nice waterfront lunch at Bacalar - the Laguna (de siete colores) is beautiful, and can have some nice swimming.
Happy Trails,
steve


**The truly duty-free shopping in the Free Zone of Corozal can be fun - and cheap - and there are 3 casinos. "Truly duty-free" means that you actually pay lower prices for things than you pay in typical Mexican supermarkets. (The airport's duty-free prices are often higher than routine prices at Mega Comercial, Chederaui, or Soriana - and the Mexican supermarket "on-sale" - remate prices are almost lower than airport duty-free.)
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(This post was edited by YucaLandia on Jan 12, 2014, 1:48 PM)


S & C

Jan 12, 2014, 4:06 PM

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Re: [YucaLandia] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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Thanks guys. I appreciate the info.
Steve, thanks for being so specific, we may make the trip next week.
I will post how we make out.
Stan


RickS


Jan 13, 2014, 9:32 AM

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Re: [S & C] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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As Steve mentions, it is imperative that you have your "original TIP paper permit" in hand or you won't get to first base with a cancellation.


S & C

Jan 13, 2014, 9:54 AM

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Re: [RickS] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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Yes thank you, I have that plus the original title and I think everything else I need. We decided to wait another week and take a friend that speaks pretty good Spanish.
Stan


YucaLandia


Jan 13, 2014, 5:24 PM

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Re: [RickS] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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For any future readers searching Mexconnect on this topic: If you lose your paper copy of the TIP, expect at least a 4 - 5 hr wait to get the documents for cancelling the old TIP approved and to get an Aduana supervisor to approve cancelling a TIP without the paper copy. I have done it twice for friends, where I found out more than I could imagine about Mennonite culture in Mexico (while waiting with Mennonites importing bags and bags of Christmas toys from Belize's duty free zone). You can meet interesting people at airports and borders, especially if you can understand a little plat deutsch.
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E-visit at http://yucalandia.com

(This post was edited by YucaLandia on Jan 13, 2014, 5:25 PM)


S & C

Feb 21, 2014, 5:16 PM

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Re: [YucaLandia] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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I finally got around to going to the Belize Border to get a new TIP. My original was from Dec 2010 when I had an FM3. The hardest part of this ordeal was finding the correct building. They could do better with signs but just ask anyone and they point you to it.
I first took the wrong road and ended up at the border but the migration guy told me where to go. I should have gone toward "Libramente" or something similar. When there you drive up to a gate Kiosk and when I told him what I wanted he pointed to the bank building across the street. There were 2 or 3 buildings and we saw a Bancercito sign through the side doors and walked in.
We drove down from Tulum and after 2 3/4 hours we arrived around 11:30. There were 2 agent windows and only one was busy. We speak very little Spanish and this agent spoke no English but the process was very easy. She wanted our old TIP, my passport, my migration card (resident temporal), my drivers license from the US and my credit card.
After going to the car to photo the Vin Number and to remove the old sticker, she cancelled the old TIP and gave me an official paper stating it was cancelled. She then printed out the new TIP for me to sign and take and instructed me to paste the new sticker on the car and that was that.
Total time there was maybe 25 minutes tops.
When leaving you drive through a red light green light station, got a green and we were off.
We decided to drive through Chetumal just to see what it looked like and then after awhile we drove to a hotel on Laguna Bacalar. We swam in the lake and the next morning kayaked on the lake and swam again then started back home.
The roadside pina sellers near Bacalar have the best pinas and near Limones they have great oranges and orange blossom honey for sale along the road.
We had a relaxing lunch in Fillipe Carrillo and then got home around 4 pm.

I want to thank you guys for the advice on this because we were apprehensive until we read how easy Steve said it was and boy was it ever easy.
Now my TIP is good for the remaining 2 years of my Temporal visa. Then I have to get the car back to the states. The agent said I will get my $400 back when I turn in my TIP at whatever border crossing I use.
Thanks again,
Stan


chinagringo


Feb 21, 2014, 7:12 PM

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Re: [S & C] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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Say what? There is so much inaccurate info in this post that I don't know where to start!
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



Rolly


Feb 21, 2014, 8:09 PM

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Re: [chinagringo] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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If you are unwilling to point out what you perceive to be errors, why make the post?

Rolly Pirate


S & C

Feb 22, 2014, 5:43 AM

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Re: [chinagringo] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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I don't know why you think the info was inaccurate. I only wrote what actually happened 3 days ago.
Point out your problems and I'll address them in another post.
Stan


playaboy

Feb 22, 2014, 6:19 AM

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Re: [chinagringo] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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What's up Neil? Sounds pretty routine to me.

S&C, I don't understand why you needed a new TIP. As long as you had a valid visa in your name and it matched the name on the TIP. that old permit should have been good.


S & C

Feb 22, 2014, 7:34 AM

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Re: [playaboy] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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That's what I was told. Since it was issued in 2010 before the rule change I didn't have to renew it each year as long as my status stayed the same. The old one stated that it expired in March 2011 when my yearly FM3 expired and even though I kept my status up to date it should have still been good. (The "grandfathering " I mentioned in my earlier post about this).
However, I had been stopped before and Federal police gave me a hassle in the past about it expiring so obviously they didn't know the rule. Since we don't speak much Spanish I thought it prudent to get one that clearly states it is good until my Temporal visa runs out. My temporal is a 3 year card that expires in March 2016. Now I can travel to different states w/o a hassle.
I do feel better now that I know for sure I am legal.
Maybe I'm a bit too anal about some things...
Stan
Stan


chinagringo


Feb 22, 2014, 2:49 PM

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Re: [Rolly] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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That's what I get for breezing through a post and somehow interpreting that he was saying visitor's visa when he clearly stated temporal. My apologies!
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



Jordao

Jun 4, 2015, 3:28 PM

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Re: [YucaLandia] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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FYI. They accepted the scanned document I printed for them. I lost my original. She gave me a form to fill out and sign (affidavit), and stamped everything, and said adios. I scan every document I get from any agency anywhere and for anything. You never know, and this saved me from having to 'read a book' while waiting.


RickS


Jun 5, 2015, 8:55 AM

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Re: [Jordao] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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Jordao, who is the "they" in your Post? A border agent or ? Thanks.


Jordao

Jun 5, 2015, 3:15 PM

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Re: [RickS] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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The Banjercito, where TIPs are cancelled


RickS


Jun 5, 2015, 7:05 PM

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Re: [Jordao] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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I see from another Post that you did this at the Belieze border....

Unless things have changed at "the" US border, Banjeceto won't cancel your TIP without the Original paperwork.... at least not without a lot of paperwork and time.

Several years ago I exited at N. Laredo with a car I had purchased in SMA. The owner did not have the original and I told him I was skeptical that I could get his TIP cancelled. He was headed back to Europe to live and really didn't care, and had no deposit in those days, but I tried anyway. Nada. No do.

Has anyone 'recently' tried, other than Belieze, to exit with a copy of the original with any success?


playaboy

Jun 6, 2015, 8:48 AM

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Re: [RickS] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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Presently, I believe there is a form you can present when you cancel that can speed up cancelling the TIP without the original paperwork. One of the people I talk with about their car issues, told me that Intercasa prepared it for him. He was able to cancel his TIP fairly quick when he took the car out of Mexico.


RickS


Jun 6, 2015, 8:50 AM

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Re: [playaboy] renewing a TIP at Belize border

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That's good news. Maybe Intercasa can respond, either here or on TOB....
 
 
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