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La Isla


Jan 9, 2014, 5:43 PM

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Is it a bad thing or a very bad thing if a man tells a woman he is in a relationship with that she is sometimes "cabrona" with him?



tashby


Jan 9, 2014, 5:56 PM

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Re: [La Isla] cabrona

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Tone is everything with that word when it's used between men. (Unless I'm wrong - always possible as I'm just learning - I think it can even have positive connotations depending upon context and tone.)

I wonder if it would/could be the same when used between a man and a woman. If he's telling her that privately and that she's only "sometimes" like that with him, which your post suggests, I'll bet it's negative to whatever degree. I'll be interested to hear the responses.


citlali

Jan 9, 2014, 7:26 PM

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Context and tone are everything but unless the man was talking in a tongue and cheek way I would not take it as a compliment..but again it all depends how and when it was said.


(This post was edited by citlali on Jan 9, 2014, 8:39 PM)


cbviajero

Jan 10, 2014, 7:00 AM

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I agree with Tashby and Citlali.There is a popular book,that I haven't read,titled(Por Que los Hombres Aman a las Cabronas).


Maesonna

Jan 10, 2014, 10:28 AM

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It’s worth noting that the book Por que los hombres aman a las cabronas is translated from English, and the original title is Why Men Love Bitches. I haven’t read it, but the subtitle suggests that it’s about being assertive and standing up for your rights, not women who are “bitchy” in a mean way.


cbviajero

Jan 10, 2014, 12:15 PM

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I didn't know that,I'd just glanced at the title when I saw it in bookstores in Guadalajara and thought it was written in Mexico.


La Isla


Jan 10, 2014, 12:34 PM

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It’s worth noting that the book Por que los hombres aman a las cabronas is translated from English, and the original title is Why Men Love Bitches. I haven’t read it, but the subtitle suggests that it’s about being assertive and standing up for your rights, not women who are “bitchy” in a mean way.


Thanks for this comment, Maesonna. In this case, to be a "cabrona" seems to mean a gutsy broad. Unfortunately, in my case I don't think that's what was meant.


citlali

Jan 17, 2014, 5:44 PM

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I do not think that being assertive is particularly appreciated by Mexican men especially if you are standing up to them..to others maybe but to them no way...lose one and there are more to come as we say in France.


La Isla


Jan 17, 2014, 5:58 PM

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I do not think that being assertive is particularly appreciated by Mexican men especially if you are standing up to them..to others maybe but to them no way...lose one and there are more to come as we say in France.


I agree with you, citlali. I thought I had met one who wasn't afraid of the assertive side of my personality, but it appears I was mistaken. Thanks for the encouraging words :-).


Bennie García

Jan 17, 2014, 9:06 PM

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Come now, ladies. Have you never heard of the infamous mandilón found commonly throughout Mexico?


La Isla


Jan 17, 2014, 9:10 PM

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That's a new word for me. Please explain, Bennie.


Bennie García

Jan 17, 2014, 9:25 PM

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That is what men who are said to wear the apron (mandil) in the relationship are called. IOW a man with a less than macho behavior in a relationship.


sioux4noff

Jan 17, 2014, 9:27 PM

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My friend has an apron that says, En la calle soy cabron, en la casa, mandilon


La Isla


Jan 17, 2014, 9:30 PM

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Re: [Bennie García] cabrona

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I see. So what do you call Mexican men who are neither machos nor mandilones?


Bennie García

Jan 17, 2014, 10:01 PM

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I don't know that there is a term that describes them. How does un hombre muy educado sound to you?


La Isla


Jan 17, 2014, 10:16 PM

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Kind of like a mensch?


esperanza

Jan 18, 2014, 6:13 AM

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More like metrosexual. LOL...

http://www.mexicocooks.typepad.com









cbviajero

Jan 18, 2014, 7:19 AM

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One my favorite parts of a Mexican wedding is El Baile del Mandilon.


La Isla


Jan 18, 2014, 9:12 AM

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More like metrosexual. LOL...


Don't know if I've met any Mexican metrosexuals. What are their distinguishing features?


sioux4noff

Jan 18, 2014, 10:37 AM

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I have, and you have, too, but maybe don't know what you are looking for. They dress very stylishly, often get manicures/pedicures,shaped/waxed eyebrows, nicely styled hair.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/...php?term=metrosexual


La Isla


Jan 18, 2014, 10:48 AM

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I have, and you have, too, but maybe don't know what you are looking for. They dress very stylishly, often get manicures/pedicures,shaped/waxed eyebrows, nicely styled hair.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/...php?term=metrosexual


I may have seen some of them on the street, but I don't have any Mexican male friends or acquaintances who look like that. God, they take better care of their appearance than I do!


esperanza

Jan 18, 2014, 11:59 AM

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Sue hit the nail on the head. There are a lot of metrosexuals in Mexico City--the VIP and CLASE sections of El Universal are full of photos of 30-something guys looking as good as the leggy women they pose with.

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La Isla


Jan 18, 2014, 12:39 PM

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I don't see metrosexuals as the middle ground between machos and mandilones. The former seems to be all about appearance while the latter two categories of men are all about their attitude toward women.


Bennie García

Jan 18, 2014, 12:54 PM

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There does exist a class of men between the macho and hen-pecked wimps and they are more abundant than many might believe. Generally found amongst men with higher levels of education and professionals. And perhaps more commonly found in the younger adults of today. Things have changed here greatly in the past 25-30 years. Just as families nowadays tend to be smaller, attitudes towards women have also changed.


sioux4noff

Jan 18, 2014, 4:38 PM

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I was only defing what a metrosexual is, not commenting where they fall on the macho to mandilon scale.
They aren't ALL about looks, but certainly care about their looks.
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