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playaboy

Dec 21, 2013, 7:11 AM

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Seems like a revolution is happening to me.

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/...ense-group.html#more

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/...ent-readies-for.html

rev·o·lu·tion
: the usually violent attempt by many people to end the rule of one government and start a new one
: a sudden, extreme, or complete change in the way people live, work, etc.


cbviajero

Dec 22, 2013, 10:17 AM

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Seems like a revolution is happening to me.

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/...ense-group.html#more

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/...ent-readies-for.html

rev·o·lu·tion
: the usually violent attempt by many people to end the rule of one government and start a new one
: a sudden, extreme, or complete change in the way people live, work, etc.

Mexico's a big country,what's happening in a few violence prone areas does not mean that there's a revolution brewing in the country..I remember traveling thru Nicaragua in 1978,the signs of revolution were everywhere and nothing like what you're referring to here and now in Mexico.


(This post was edited by cbviajero on Dec 22, 2013, 11:29 AM)


playaboy

Jan 17, 2014, 3:51 PM

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Seems like a revolution is happening to me.

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/...ense-group.html#more

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/...ent-readies-for.html

rev·o·lu·tion
: the usually violent attempt by many people to end the rule of one government and start a new one
: a sudden, extreme, or complete change in the way people live, work, etc.

Mexico's a big country,what's happening in a few violence prone areas does not mean that there's a revolution brewing in the country..I remember traveling thru Nicaragua in 1978,the signs of revolution were everywhere and nothing like what you're referring to here and now in Mexico.


You are correct, Mexico is a big country.

Michoacan and Guerrero have more population and a larger land area than Nicaragua. Now throw in Chiapas, Tamalipus, Nuevo Leon, Chihuahua and Coahuila where there has been fighting for years. That is most of Northern and all of Southern Mexico.

The law abiding, everyday, citizen is fed up living in fear. They have nothing to lose. Over the last 2 months there looks like a revolution brewing to me. I expect conditions to get worse in the next 2 months.

Can you say revolution?


Bennie García

Jan 17, 2014, 9:27 PM

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Do you know the difference between civil war and revolution?


Rolly


Jan 17, 2014, 10:21 PM

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Do you know the difference between civil war and revolution?

That is a question I have wondered about for a long time.
Some say that a revolution is the people's fight against the government. A civil war is a fight between opposing ideas in the people. The USA fought a war called civil, yet is was mostly some people (southerners) fighting the government. That sounds more like a revolution. Likewise, the press is now calling the fighting in Syria a civil war, although it seems like a revolution -- some of the people against the government.

Bennie, I'd love to read your answer to your question.

Rolly Pirate


cbviajero

Jan 18, 2014, 6:58 AM

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The law abiding, everyday, citizen is fed up living in fear. They have nothing to lose. Over the last 2 months there looks like a revolution brewing to me. I expect conditions to get worse in the next 2 months.

Can you say revolution?

Do you think I should wait until after the revolution to apply for Residente Permanente or do you think the new regime will honor the current immigration laws?


playaboy

Jan 22, 2014, 4:25 PM

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Do you know the difference between civil war and revolution?


Yes, It is all a matter of perspective.and depends on which side you are on. The winning side gets to write history and name the war..


robt65

Jan 22, 2014, 9:43 PM

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Your answer reminds me of an explanation a good friend of mine who has lived in Mexico for some time gave me about "right away at an intersection of four different streets all coming together at a wide assortment of angles. I asked him (quite tongue in cheek, and yet somewhat serious) who has the right way at this intersection?. . . . . his response without hesitating was . . . . . whoever gets there first.
Yes it does relate to this topic . . . . . think about it for a few minutes and you might get it. (smiling)
Regards,
Robt65


Bennie García

Jan 23, 2014, 11:16 AM

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Yes, It is all a matter of perspective.and depends on which side you are on. The winning side gets to write history and name the war..


Not really.


playaboy

Jan 23, 2014, 3:03 PM

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Yes, It is all a matter of perspective.and depends on which side you are on. The winning side gets to write history and name the war..


Not really.

Please enlighten me?


citlali

Jan 23, 2014, 8:32 PM

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Playaboy where is the fighting in Chiapas? Would love to know where it is because it seems that I am missing all the fun.


playaboy

Jan 25, 2014, 5:36 AM

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Well, maybe not outright fighting. Who controls the southern border between Chiapas and Guatemala? The criminals, be they cartel criminals or government criminals. There is a tremendous amount of drugs, guns and HUMAN TRAFFICKING that go north thru Chiapas. There are huge amounts of money going south thru Chiapas.


RickS


Jan 25, 2014, 8:32 AM

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In general..... back to the subject of this thread please.


Bennie García

Jan 25, 2014, 3:28 PM

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In general..... back to the subject of this thread please.


Is the subject of this thread revolution? Because that is what sidetracked it.


playaboy

Jan 26, 2014, 5:53 AM

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In general..... back to the subject of this thread please.


Is the subject of this thread revolution? Because that is what sidetracked it.


The thread is about Michoacan. I brought up the word "revolution" because that the word several friends living in Michoacan have used. What would you call it Bennie?


Bennie García

Jan 26, 2014, 6:56 AM

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In general..... back to the subject of this thread please.


Is the subject of this thread revolution? Because that is what sidetracked it.


The thread is about Michoacan. I brought up the word "revolution" because that the word several friends living in Michoacan have used. What would you call it Bennie?


Vigilantism.


playaboy

Jan 26, 2014, 7:51 AM

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In general..... back to the subject of this thread please.


Is the subject of this thread revolution? Because that is what sidetracked it.


The thread is about Michoacan. I brought up the word "revolution" because that the word several friends living in Michoacan have used. What would you call it Bennie?


Vigilantism.


You definitely can call it vigilantism.

Depending on your point of view and as the events unfold, naming these events will change. It is vigilantism, civil war, and a revolution all at once. History will award the final name.

Hector Becerra writes for the LA Times. He has covered Latino life in So Cal for years, not the cartel wars of Mexico This is another prospective of the happenings in Michoacan, with some very interesting quotes.

http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-michoacan-la-20140126,0,1003705,full.story#axzz2rW6h6Rad


(This post was edited by RickS on Jan 26, 2014, 2:16 PM)
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