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Ron Mader

Oct 11, 2002, 5:45 AM

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Greetings and Saludos -<p>I would like to ask members in this group -- all web savvy and fans of Mexico -- to help me with preparing my last "Mexico on the Web" column featured in Business Mexico magazine and also archived on this site. (Link below)<p>Each December I prepare a list of the best websites of the year. They can be in English or Spanish but noted characteristics is that they are regularly updated, use reader feedback and expand our understanding of Mexico. Grand talk, but they sites deserve the recognition!<p>I've already included Mexico Connect in the past -- it's easily one of my favorites -- but any other suggestions? What's your favorite Mexico website?<p>Many thanks if you can respond to this thread right away<p>Cheers!<p>Ron



keith

Oct 11, 2002, 7:01 AM

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<center><img src="http://home.attbi.com/~ramsay52/guaparoad.JPG"></center><p>


Bob Story

Oct 11, 2002, 7:26 AM

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I think that Ron Mader was asking which INTERNET site was the most useful in Mexico.<p>We have found that the new site offered by Google http://news.google.com gives us local as well as national news about Mexico & is a valuable resource.


keith

Oct 11, 2002, 8:46 AM

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couldn't make your chat feature work

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I found your planeta.com site and went to the sitemap and clicked on the Chat link. Eventually it led me to this message: This feature is not accessible for the group planeta <p>Does this mean you still don't have a message board, or does it mean it isn't working, or was I just not successful in accessing it?<p>


dan

Oct 11, 2002, 9:06 AM

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www.maps-of-mexico.com<p>www.emilebymile.com/main/mexico/jalisco/state_200/mexico_jalisco_road_map+logs.html<p>www.mexicomexico.info


Ron Mader

Oct 11, 2002, 5:18 PM

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couldn't make your chat feature work

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That's interesting. I don't recall putting that link there. I'll remove it in the next update. I don't offer chat on Planeta.com<p>Ron


Ron Mader

Oct 11, 2002, 5:20 PM

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LP's Thorn Tree is quite good. Thanks for reminding me!<p>Ron


Kate

Oct 11, 2002, 8:00 PM

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: Actually, I find LP Thorn Tree a little to radical for me and too much the cheapo traveller thing..They all sound like dope smokin neo hippies who want a 5 dollar a night palapa. There are a few good posters there with good info if you can get through the Mexico on 12 dollars a day posts. Keith, whop posts here, is informative, as is Masterson, who seems to anethema on this board.


Kate

Oct 11, 2002, 9:18 PM

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: Come on Keith R, youjust like LP because you advertise constantly on that site (good for you)..Don't you get bored with those Mexico on 10 dollars a day people, ot how how do I get to Zipolote and get stoned threads..<p>Love your website, but LP TT is boring..


keith

Oct 12, 2002, 11:52 AM

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I do promote the canyons in general and our place in particular on the TT, and I'm admitedly shameless about it. And you are right, most of the people who frequent the TT are travelling at the lower end of the financial scale, people who when they show up at our place, I take one look at and say, "well, I have to tell you that we aren't the cheapest place in town." But it also seems to me that the TT gets most of the more "adventurous" travelers too; while the travelers exchanging information on Mexico Connects are mostly people who aren't going to get very far off paved road or out of shouting distance of the nearest pharmacy, Sam's Club, and an ATM. I'm generalizing here, always a mistake; there are exceptions all over the place. I feel pretty much at home on the TT Mexico branch and a couple of other branches as well; on MexicoConnects' fora (as you guys say) I feel like, "Gee, Toto, I think we're back in Kansas."
Glad you liked the website--I'll pass that along to my son--he does it.


JackS

Oct 12, 2002, 3:38 PM

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Granted, yours may not be the cheapest place in Urique, but it certainly is the best, or else I wouldn't continue going there. Everyone I've taken there just raves about it. Another three weeks and we'll be there again. <p>: I do promote the canyons in general and our place in particular on the TT, and I'm admitedly shameless about it. And you are right, most of the people who frequent the TT are travelling at the lower end of the financial scale, people who when they show up at our place, I take one look at and say, "well, I have to tell you that we aren't the cheapest place in town." But it also seems to me that the TT gets most of the more "adventurous" travelers too; while the travelers exchanging information on Mexico Connects are mostly people who aren't going to get very far off paved road or out of shouting distance of the nearest pharmacy, Sam's Club, and an ATM. I'm generalizing here, always a mistake; there are exceptions all over the place. I feel pretty much at home on the TT Mexico branch and a couple of other branches as well; on MexicoConnects' fora (as you guys say) I feel like, "Gee, Toto, I think we're back in Kansas."
: Glad you liked the website--I'll pass that along to my son--he does it.<p>


jack swift

Oct 12, 2002, 3:54 PM

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Since the advent of the internet I've been trying almmost daily to find new info on mexico. I've lived there almost 10 years over the last 30 and usually visit 2-3 times a year.<p>There is no website that can replace actually getting there.<p>There simply is not enough information available on the net, and the spanish sites are mostly about 3 years behind english domain developments except for their preponderance of usage of bandwidth wasting Flash animations.<p>Technically, most Mexican states and cities have excellent sites in spanish for general purposes, and there are numerous sites in english that support those.<p>But to drill down to the nitty gritty, and get a current handle of an off the wall location is almost impossible.<p>The major tourist destinations are fairly well covered, and lots of american enclaves have their own gadflys.<p>For general searches on mexico, I recommend only one website - google.com - and after getting your fill there, i recommend altavista.com on an advanced search of what websites have been updated in the last 6 months.<p>the other trick is to search the usenet or group postings on google, aol, yahoo and msn - lots of references to specific pueblos or activities.<p>Mexconnect.com would be a great site if it archived its postings and allowed a search on it.
Meanwhile, it's cripplingly functional by doing a "Find on page" on the explorer edit button for current postings, while the general search function resolves itself into mostly platitudes available on dozens of other sites.<p>I wish you luck in composing your "most useful mexico sites". <p>Please include the altavista translation services to get at least a garbled version of what some spanish speaking sites have to say.<p><p><p>


keith

Oct 12, 2002, 7:08 PM

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: Granted, yours may not be the cheapest place in Urique, but it certainly is the best, or else I wouldn't continue going there. Everyone I've taken there just raves about it. Another three weeks and we'll be there again. <p>: : I do promote the canyons in general and our place in particular on the TT, and I'm admitedly shameless about it. And you are right, most of the people who frequent the TT are travelling at the lower end of the financial scale, people who when they show up at our place, I take one look at and say, "well, I have to tell you that we aren't the cheapest place in town." But it also seems to me that the TT gets most of the more "adventurous" travelers too; while the travelers exchanging information on Mexico Connects are mostly people who aren't going to get very far off paved road or out of shouting distance of the nearest pharmacy, Sam's Club, and an ATM. I'm generalizing here, always a mistake; there are exceptions all over the place. I feel pretty much at home on the TT Mexico branch and a couple of other branches as well; on MexicoConnects' fora (as you guys say) I feel like, "Gee, Toto, I think we're back in Kansas."
: : Glad you liked the website--I'll pass that along to my son--he does it.<p>


jennifer rose

Oct 12, 2002, 8:53 PM

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Online communities differ in their foci, attitude, and personality. MexicoConnectís General Forum was the outgrowth of a mailing list called ďMoving to Mexico.Ē Then came the Food Forum and the Living, Working and Retiring Forum. The Ajijic/Chapala Forum followed, around May 2001 the Michoacan Forum open up, followed by the On the Road, Spanish, and Construction Fora in August 2001. <p>The core players of the General Forum Ė Steve Immel, Ernie Gorrie, Jim in Cancun, David Eidell, Bob Story, and Lavanda (and Iím sure Iím forgetting others) Ė all were focused upon exchanging information about living here or buying property here. Their connections to Mexico were different from the average traveler, and even though Steve Immel positioned himself as Mr. Low Budget (run, duck and hide), finding a $10 USD/night hotel or dates werenít high on their list of priorities. When you live here, things like the mail and Samís Club are important. Still, there are plenty of those who live off the grid, get out into the wilderness, and run with the wolves, even though most of our active participants are past forty (well, barely).<p>Because MexicoConnect is based in Ajijic, its focus initially did run to those who live in that area. Thatís changed. Our active readership is mostly American and Canadian.<p>When the Michoacan Forum opened, I was determined that it was not going to take the shape that the Ajijic/Lakeside one does. But then other stuff intervened, and I did nothing. It still took the shape that Iíd hoped. More Mexicans and Mexican-Americans post to that forum, and their posts can be even something as simple as ďAnyone here from Los Reyes?Ē In response to a press release from the Secretaria de Turismo that I posted about the Pear Fair in Ucareo, several folks have written, both publicly and privately, ďIíve been living in Austin, but Iím from Ucareo, and Iím proud to see some publicity about my hometown.Ē Now, I donít know how many visitors attended the Pear Fair as a result of that post Ė probably none. But it was a means of creating some Michoacan pride, and perhaps next year someone will remember that there is a Pear Fair in Ucareo. (BTW, the convent in Ucareo is undergoing a magnificent restoration, and those folks at the pear fair really do a an incredible job with their preserved fruits and vegetables.)<p>My point? Fora arenít fungible. One canít be put up against another and rated on a scale of 1 to 10.


Kate

Oct 12, 2002, 10:16 PM

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:I like your website and am planning my next vacation, and so I am actually planning on either doing the Copper canyon or staying with my in laws in DF (Tepito) That might not be too bad because they hae a ranhcito in Valle de Tenango. I can fly free from Los Cabos to Cualican. <p>I guess one of the things about the LP that bothers me is the anti Western sentiment and the total cheapness and the traveller vs tourist thing..After all,aren't we all tourists? It's all alttle bit too PC for me.


Nancy

Oct 13, 2002, 4:51 PM

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Keith, I love the picture, but I couldn't get the link to work.


Lin Robinson

Oct 14, 2002, 3:20 PM

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I started to say "English site" but that isn't very precise, I guess. Vwery nice site, good books, references
 
 
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