Sep 27, 2012, 10:59 AM
Post #17 of 17
Re: [richmx2] I would like to know why my post of "Military overpaid" was taken off
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This forum is private property and free speech does not apply here.
Rather terse response wouldn't you say?
And to the point. Free speech applies to your right to speak without prior restraint by the government, but there's no mandate on anyone to give you a forum for your speech. You want "free speech", buy your own
Just a bit of illumination. According to Wikipedia:
"Freedom of speech is the political right to communicate one's opinions and ideas. The term freedom of expression is sometimes used synonymously, but includes any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used. In practice, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country and the right is commonly subject to limitations, as with libel, slander, obscenity, sedition (including, for example inciting ethnic hatred), copyright violation, revelation of information that is classified or otherwise restrained under gag agreement, and incitement to commit a crime.
The right to freedom of expression is recognized as a human right under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and recognized in international human rights law in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR). Article 19 of the ICCPR states that "[e]veryone shall have the right to hold opinions without interference" and "everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice". Article 19 goes on to say that the exercise of these rights carries "special duties and responsibilities" and may "therefore be subject to certain restrictions" when necessary "[f]or respect of the rights or reputation of others" or "[f]or the protection of national security or of public order (order public), or of public health or morals"
I have my own website, and a few months ago had someone complaining that it was a violation of her "first amendment rights" that I wouldn't print her obscenity-laced nonsense. Uh... my website is in Mexico, and the servers are in Canada, so I don't see where some U.S. Constitutional provision even applied. And, of course, it's my website, so I'm not obliged to put up anything I don't want to.
Good for you.
I think it goes without saying that "Your site - Your rules" applies in all instances where the individual has no ownership, thus no control of the hosting of a site or the application. There should be no expectation of "constitutional right" to a privately owned business or enterprise. But generally speaking, the vast majority of forum participants (not just this one) comply with the rules of said forum.
Many misinformed individuals and in particular "we" Americans (your first amendment rights example above ) seem to think that "we" have Carte Blanche rights simply because we're Americans and in many inappropriate situations (and countries) attempt to exert those rights. Unfortunately, Americans as of late have been forfeiting those rights - constitutional and otherwise. Can you say Patriot Act? Ditto when it comes to Privacy. It seems the current generation doesn't give a hoot about Privacy - until of course its too late.
Dwain (aka Lilmsmaggie)