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mensamia

Aug 14, 2012, 6:16 PM

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gringo murder in Chapala,

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http://www.informador.com.mx/...pareja-asesinada.htm

A German man and his Mexican wife have been murdered in their home. This happened on the 20th of July. Surprised it isnt being discussed here. Is it not worthy of discussion? Is it possible that I can discover this from another country and locals don't know about it???

According to sources at lake chapala yahoo groups, a local cop has been implicated. Anyone else know anything?

Hopefully this thread will not get closed too quickly. People have a right to know what is happening in Chapala.

(This post was edited by DavidMcL on Aug 14, 2012, 10:22 PM)

johanson

Aug 14, 2012, 7:30 PM

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Re: [mensamia] gringo murder in Chapala, local cop implicated

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I don't know where I saw it, but it was all over the place, And I believe also in the Guadalajara Reporter, right after the bodies were fund.

mensamia

Aug 14, 2012, 7:43 PM

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Re: [johanson] gringo murder in Chapala, local cop implicated

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thanks Johanson but where is 'all over the place'?

I naively thought that since MexConnect is one of the most visible Mexican expat forums. its members would be sharing this info. Why this murder not showing up here is very strange to me. Guess I was way too gullible, thinking anything that pertinent to expats in Chapala would be found on MexConnect Chapala Region forum.

Just makes me wonder what else is not showing up.

Oops, time to shoot the messenger.

sparks

Aug 14, 2012, 7:57 PM

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It was covered on the two Chapala area boards extensively with links to local articles

Sparks Mexico - Sparks Costalegre

mensamia

Aug 14, 2012, 8:01 PM

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thanks Sparks, can you please post the links to those two groups or if you arent allowed to, can you please send me the links? I definitely need a better information source for Chapala.

bronco

Aug 14, 2012, 9:21 PM

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one of the problems is that lakesidecrimetracker.com websight is having server problems. it should be up & running this week. i am sure he will include this in the updates. if anyone wants to contact site, comments questions reports: info@lakesidecrimetracker.com, yes this board has been slow lately. i agree w/mensamia, it should have been discussed. another home invasion robbery murder, few people seem concerned. go figure.

esperanza

Aug 14, 2012, 9:35 PM

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What concerns me as much as the double murder is the title of this thread. Where in the world did mensamia get the idea that a "local cop" is implicated in the murder? Nothing in the article in El Informador mentions that, nor have I seen it mentioned anywhere else.

Maybe a moderator could fix this situation by changing the title of the thread.

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bournemouth

Aug 15, 2012, 6:28 AM

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I think Mensamia is confusing two separate events. A Chapala policeman has been cited for a shooting death in Ixtlahuacan de los Membrillos which occurred earlier this month.

Vichil

Aug 15, 2012, 6:34 AM

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The title should be changed and Mensamia shoud refrain from spreading rumors. There is no report that the Chapala police was involved in this crime, actually there is no further information right now. Nothing to discuss sorry Mensamia .

CanuckBob

Aug 15, 2012, 7:48 AM

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You can read all about this and other recent events here:

http://www.insidelakeside.com/...d-today-july-20-2012

Bob
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http://www.insidelakeside.com

mensamia

Aug 15, 2012, 8:04 AM

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Re: [Vichil] gringo murder in Chapala, local cop implicated

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Here is the message I received by email concerning the cop involvement. I was trying to ascertain if indeed a cop has been charged. Someone should know that. Below is the message.

From: lakechapala@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lakechapala@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lovingmexico
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:57 PM
To: lakechapala@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [lakechapala] Re: Couple found dead in Haciendas

It appears one of those charged in the murder is a Chapala cop.

--- In lakechapala@yahoogroups.com, "stellabinaria" <stellabinaria@...> wrote:
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> http://www.informador.com.mx/jalisco/2012/391308/6/localizan-en-chapala-a-pareja-asesinada.htm
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> This is the link in spanish at el informador....

Vichil

Aug 15, 2012, 8:08 AM

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Mensamia
Can you tell e where it says cops were ivolved? I can read Spanish nd unless my glasses are totally failing me, I still do not see anything implicating the police.

tashby

Aug 15, 2012, 8:26 AM

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Re: [bournemouth] gringo murder in Chapala, local cop implicated

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Mensa, you're wrong. Bournemouth has it right.

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"I think Mensamia is confusing two separate events. A Chapala policeman has been cited for a shooting death in Ixtlahuacan de los Membrillos which occurred earlier this month."

cbviajero

Aug 15, 2012, 9:09 AM

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Mensa, you're wrong.

La mensa has quite a fixation with this stuff.

don pedro

Aug 15, 2012, 11:25 AM

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i suggest strongly that you learn how to read espanol before making a wrong op like above and then using something like this as proof,which it ain't. people don't need to know rumours and gossip and totally wrong info like you have posted.
in any event, the murder you cite is old news. we had a fresh one sunday,august 12 right on maderos across from the 711,just south of the chicken bbq and car parts places.
there. is that what ya wanna see on here about crime or do you want more details? should i take pics, especially fer you next time and put them on this forum so's ya kin stop whining?
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Yacatecuhtli

Aug 15, 2012, 1:56 PM

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I think Mensamia is confusing two separate events. A Chapala policeman has been cited for a shooting death in Ixtlahuacan de los Membrillos which occurred earlier this month.

Information on this event can be seen here :

Implican a policía de Chapala en ejecución de civil

http://www.periodicoelsur.com/...aspx?idnoticia=73860
IXTLAHUACAN DE LOS MEMBRILLOS, JAL., (EL SUR).- Agentes de la Policía Estatal detuvieron a un policía municipal y dos de sus familiares, para aclarar su presunta participación en violento hecho registrado en la localidad, el cual dejó saldo de una persona muerta.

Fue en el cruce de las calles Huitlacoche y Aguililla, de la cabecera municipal de Ixtlahuacán, en donde ocurrió el suceso, mismo que inició con una discusión entre el ahora occiso, Jesús Miguel Flores Cortés, de 38 años de edad, y Jaime Francisco Enciso Hernández, de 34. De las palabras pasaron a los golpes y peor fue cuando Enciso Hernández y al parecer sus acompañantes, recurrieron a las armas de fuego.

Jesús Miguel Flores recibió dos impactos de bala, uno en la cabeza y el otro en el tórax, y todo indica que su muerte fue instantánea; consumada la agresión, el autor que es policía activo de Chapala y sus dos acompaña

! Al pan, pan y al vino, vino !

mensamia

Aug 15, 2012, 5:39 PM

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thanks for asking Vichil. I got the information in the body of the text of the email I received. Sorry if not accurate. I cut and pasted the exact email and right in the middle it mentions the cop.

I have no idea who sent me the email but perhaps I got it from joining that group. I apologize if it is misinformation. But the gringo and his wife are still dead. That is not misinformation.

As for the person that thinks I am preoccupied with the murder rate in Chapala... guess you are right. It is one of the factors I use in making lifestyle decisions. Chapala was a place I considered moving to and I still have friends there.

bronco

Aug 15, 2012, 7:06 PM

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whether its old news or not, it should be discussed here. also never cut & paste something you get from a yahoo group. make sure the link is readable. ok more older people get killed. targets, end of case.not the same as a street dispute.