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wearechange

Jul 24, 2012, 3:34 PM

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I´ve heard horror stories about TSA workers. I have been crossing the border at Nogales for a couple of years now but this time I am flying to Frisco. I really appreciate any accounts. Thanks.



chicois8

Jul 24, 2012, 6:47 PM

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I did not know Frisco, Texas had an International Airport...


sparks


Jul 24, 2012, 8:05 PM

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When I lived there (close) it was called "the city" (in the '60's). Only people from the east coast called it Frisco

I'm going Alaska thru LA soon and could use some suggestions as well

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Mexberry

Jul 24, 2012, 8:22 PM

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TSA is an unavoidable necessity. You will have to take off your shoes , so wear matching socks! Belts, laptops, wallets etc have to be unpacked and all liquids and gels in a clear plastic bag, none to exceed 100ml in size. LA and San Fransisco are not too bad, although you want to get near the front of the line up to go through immigration. San Diego have some really officious types - too much military presence there so its' to be expected. If any of you are leaving from PV, you will be pleased to know that they must have installed baggage scanners as the delightful experience of a baggage inspector opening up your case with all your dirty stuff on the top exposed for all those inquisitive fellow passengers to admire, is now a thing of the past.


esperanza

Jul 25, 2012, 6:04 AM

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We recently flew round-trip from Mexico City to New York (JFK) and from JFK to Paris.

The TSA clones in the Mexico City airport were impossible. It took us over an hour to get through security, even though we had studied the Aeromexico website and had everything in order--and even though we had our boarding passes prior to arriving at the airport. It was miserable.

Flying out of JFK was a snap, TSA was thorough but decent.

Flying back to JFK was equally simple.

LEAVING JFK to fly to Mexico City was another story. The TSA lines were a block long--no, I'm not exaggerating--and the inspection process was intrusive and rude. The TSA employee staffing the TSA check-in booth was grousing about how horrible airline service is now (he called economy-class passengers 'rats in a maze'), how deeply he hates TSA and its procedures, and how the first minute he possibly can retire, he is out of there.

IMHO, the difference in how TSA and its international clones handled passengers depended on whether one is flying first class, business class, or economy. We flew economy to JFK from Mexico City and back to Mexico City from JFK. We flew business class round-trip from JFK to Paris. NO COMPARISON in any aspect of the flights. IMHO--if you have the extra money, pay for business class. You won't regret it.




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Vichil

Jul 25, 2012, 6:59 AM

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We flew to Paris from Mexico City 4 weeks ago and the Mexican TSA were a piece of cake , did not have to remove shoes either.


Maesonna

Jul 25, 2012, 2:36 PM

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Esperanza, are there any specific details you would be willing to share about the “impossible”, “miserable” experience you had with the TSAs in the Mexico City airport? Was it the things they made you do or did to you, or just the things they said or their attitude? Did they overstep their legal mandate, or are the things they are allowed to do bad enough?

Having a trip planned next month, I am wondering whether “imagining the worst” is getting me more worried than I need to be, or if I’m not even picturing it as bad as it really can be.


Reefhound


Jul 25, 2012, 3:16 PM

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IMHO, the difference in how TSA and its international clones handled passengers depended on whether one is flying first class, business class, or economy.


Huh? In every airport I've flown through, the TSA agents checking your luggage and body do not even know what airline you are on much less your fare class. The agents at the entry to the security area (not the queued line before it) check id against boarding pass for a match but these are not the agents conducting the scans/searches nor are you directed to any particular scanner. At the actual scanners/sniffers the agents do not check boarding passes.


GringoCArlos

Jul 25, 2012, 4:16 PM

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I would humbly disagree with the statement that "TSA is an unavoidable necessity." I, for one, now refuse to play along. If I were going to San Francisco, I would fly there on a one way ticket, avoiding TSA but not Immigration or Customs.

Then because I am no longer on a fixed schedule, I'd get on Amtrak from either Oakland or San Francisco back to San Diego, take the wonderful SD public shuttle from Old Town to the border, cross the border on foot (no more than a 200-300 yard walk with your luggage), grab a TJ taxi and fly out of Tijuana. Amtrak from SF to San Diego is less than $100, and about a 12 hour trip along the beautiful California coast.

A one way airline ticket from Tijuana to Hermosillo is about US$200, PV about US$275, some to MX City as cheap as US$200 (redeyes). One small way I or anyone else can help to kill the TSA beast is to starve it by not participating.
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Flying out of MX:

Up until about 18 months ago, I flew frequently, and never spent more than 5 minutes to get through security in MX City. Same 5 minutes while traveling with a 5 year old. At the same checkpoints, I watched some people get bogged down in the system, spending way too much time there. MX airport security isn't much different than it is in most other countries.

Skip the layered clothes or sweaters and jackets that force you to remove them for scanning. Skip the jewelry and keys and assorted pocket junk and stick it all in your carry-on beforehand. If in doubt about anything, stick it in a tub and send it though the X-ray machine rather than making them ask you to do so, and then waiting for a translator or getting angry.

Take off your shoes and belt unless someone with security signals you that you don't need to do so. If you are traveling with little ones, do the same prep, using tshirts and shoes with velcro or slip-ons. And do all of this BEFORE you get to the X-ray machine's belt - why would you want to force everyone else behind to wait for you?

Get through MX security when there is no one else there. If you wait until the times when many flights are leaving at the same time (cycles spaced about 3 hours apart) to go through security, you will be in a line. That line seemed to start forming about 90 minutes before the flight cycle so get in there before that time and relax. Bring a book along.

In MX City's airport, it's a lot more comfortable inside the secured zone than outside. Keep your boarding pass and your passport in your hand all the way through security. If you don't speak Spanish, just hold them out whenever you see a uniform. They'll do the rest. They'll check it several times.

Once you are inside, don't try to buy softdrinks or water in the shops there to take with you on the plane - in MX, they usually won't allow those liquids to enter at the gate either. Drink anything you need as you wait, and toss the rest before the final checkpoint at the gate and boarding.


(This post was edited by GringoCArlos on Jul 25, 2012, 4:26 PM)


JuanCha

Jul 26, 2012, 9:30 AM

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Re San Diego-Tijuana: there is a frequent large shuttle bus from the downtown San Diego Greyhound Bus Terminal (the shuttle is ticketed by Greyhound but is not a Greyhound bus).

The shuttle costs about U$15 and goes direct to the Tijuana Airport (with brief stop for Mex Customs at Border); there is no change of vehicle so you and your luggage remain on the same bus until arrival at TJ Airport.

The USA phone number for that shuttle is (619) 446-6615.

The shuttle bus makes the return ride from TJ Airport to downtown San Diego aslo - that one requires de-board/re-board at US Customs at the Border. The Volaris airline desk at the TJ airport may be able to direct one to that shuttle (there are other shuttle services that usually require a change of vehicle and transfer of luggage at the Border, unlike this one), or call the USA phone number above.
JuanCha de: Santa Fe NM, San Cristobal de Las Casas Chiapas, San Diego CA

(This post was edited by JuanCha on Jul 26, 2012, 9:31 AM)


sioux4noff

Jul 26, 2012, 10:35 PM

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If any of you are leaving from PV, you will be pleased to know that they must
have installed baggage scanners as the delightful experience of a baggage
inspector opening up your case with all your dirty stuff on the top



I flew from Puerto Vallarta in very late June and the suitcase checkers were still checking them for United.
 
 
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