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This may or may not apply to you but the IVA is lower in QRoo and many people here in Yucatan buy their new cars there and keep them plated there. This year there is a crack down on that, the SSP can question where you live and check your license if you are stopped at a reten. It can make a difference in price on a new car but not so much on a used car. The IVA in QRoo is 11% and it is 16% here in Yucatan.

If you have just bought a newer car, paying the lower IVA, and wish to register it in Yucatan you could have to pay the difference in IVA. I'm not sure of the time limits on that, but keep it in mind.

I have an old truck registered in QRoo and haven't had anyone question where I live, I'm pretty sure that is because it is old. If asked however, I do have a license from Tulum and an address in QRoo.

So, if the vehicle you are buying is only 1 or 2 years old it could be more of a hassle to reregister it here. If it is older, probably not. You could leave any age car registered in QRoo for years and you may never have anyone question it... or not.

Jonna - Mérida, Yucatán

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Our family members report paying $20,000 - $40,000 pesos to change the plates from one state to another, which is why they have just kept their Q. Roo plates, even though they live and drive in Yucatan.
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May 8, 2012, 10:39 AM

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Were those fairly new cars Steve? I don't have the option of changing my plates to Yucatan right now, someone stole the paperwork out of the truck and I can renew the plates in QRoo (so far) but I don't have what I need to register it in a new state. Someday, I'll have to do all those tramites... it involved getting a certified copy of the importation papers from Mexico City.

I have an old jeep too but it has Calif plates. A problem. Especially since I am eligible for permanent migration status this year but I would have to give up my jeep and that is not happening. So, unless something changes by October, I will probably go to some kind of non immigrant visa instead. I prefer my jeep over the INM hassles, shoot if I have to I'll just go to Belice every 6 months and go back to being a tourist. I love Mexico and would love to be a permanent resident or even a citizen but frankly, I love my jeep more.

Jonna - Mérida, Yucatán

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Jonna,
The vehicles have been 6 - 8 years old.
Jeep lovers are a special breed: As ever, your replies create delightful laughter.

What if you took the Jeep to Belize, and turned in the temporary import permit to Aduana/Banjercito as you leave, and then returned into Q.Roo and quarantined the Jeep to Q.Roo - as a Franja / Region Fronteriza. while you then go for permanent residency? (Similar to taking a car into Baja California or Baja California Sur)

“Región fronteriza
Los estados de Baja California, Baja California Sur, Quintana Roo y la región parcial de Sonora; la franja fronteriza sur colindante con Guatemala y los municipios de Caborca, Sonora, Comitán de Domínguez, Chiapas, y Salina Cruz, Oaxaca.
Aduanas Webpage: Franja y región fronterizas ( http://www.aduanas.gob.mx/...jeros/139_10128.html )
I am not pushing this option, but it might fit your plan?
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May 8, 2012, 7:56 PM

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The problem is, as I read it, I would not be able to drive it with a permanent immigrant visa. Maybe in QRoo but then I just have a beach condo there but I live in Merida. Mainly it is that I think they could take the jeep if I were driving it. Now, I know that this is Mexico and most things can be worked out.... but, it could be too expensive a work around.

I'm hoping for a chocolate amnesty from PRI, assuming they win. Then, I'll put it in my friend's name and he can import it. One can wish.

Jonna - Mérida, Yucatán

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May 9, 2012, 9:25 AM

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Wow! You guys live in an expensive place. That said, I will never buy another car from another state here in Morelos., it took about six months and two trips to the Transito office to get the car titled, and plates for Morelos state. The Transito office kept wanting more paperwork from the previous owner. I bought the car through a sobrino that has a very good job as an engineer with Pemex, he has a business on the side selling late model used cars.

I don't know how any dealer that wasn't related to me would have handled the requests for more and more paperwork. I guess that was to make sure that he was who he said he was, and the car was not stolen,I used a very fair priced facilitator to do the work at Transito. He had to make two trips here, He lives about 25 miles from here. After the first trip with all the additional paperwork, We were told they needed to do an investigation in México City, it would take six days. I gave him $100 Pesos for gasoline that day

Five days later, I got a call from my facilitator that the investigation was finished and he wanted to go to the Transito office again, he said he didn't think we would be able to register the car and get local plates yet, but he wanted to try. We were able to register the car and get new Morelos plates that day though. My facilitator had to stand in line a couple of times to pay the fees though, for a total of about 6 ½ hours. I had the hard job of sitting on a bench, watching him.

When we were finally finished, I tried to give him another $200 Pesos for his services. He refused, saying you already paid me $100 Pesos. I told him that was just for your gas, He finally reluctantly agreed to accept another $100 Pesos. We were both happy. His fees are very reasonable.

No big bribes were demanded or paid. It was a super pain in the grommet to transfer the title and plates from one state to another though. Never again. YMMV

Rex
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May 9, 2012, 9:43 AM

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The cost to Steve's family may have included tenencia which still exists in Yucatan on cars over a certain value. I'm really not sure on this so no one take my word for it as I have not ever registered a car here in Yucatan, only in QRoo.

I would guess that it is certainly more expensive in QRoo than where you are Rex but perhaps the same here in Yucatan, perhaps a bit higher. It all depends on what the market will bear no?

While there is much grumbling about the forañeos coming here from other parts of Mexico, I have found that the availability of some things has improved and the costs as well. It has been a positive influx in many ways. The Yucatecos will always complain about the chilangos and vice versa, it's the way it is.

Jonna - Mérida, Yucatán

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May 9, 2012, 11:07 AM

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Well Jonna,every government agency here makes their own rules and sets their own fees. As to the tenencia, everyone pays it, and always will, it means to hold, the same thing as registration in other countries.

What was suspended was a special tax of 10% of the value of a new car to be paid over a ten year period, to be paid at the same time as the regular tenencia is. To pay for the 1968 Olympic Games held in México City.

The car I recently registered is a 2002 model, so it is now considered to be 11 years old. The special tax on it was paid up, or suspended in The D. F. a year or two ago.

The problem as usual, was with the untrained clerks that will always put the burden of proof on the client, rather than solving any problems themselves. That is one of the many reasons that the procedures for anything differ in every state here.

Rex
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(This post was edited by Papirex on May 9, 2012, 11:10 AM)