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Bennie García

Apr 28, 2012, 4:47 AM

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One could never be sure as Pemex is such an inefficient company they could truck fuel all over the country.

Moisheh

Without looking at a map I would hazard a guess that many of the main non-border Mexican cities such the DF, Puebla, SLP, Zacatecas and Guadalajara etc.are actually closer to the Deer Park refinery than is Tijuana.

Do you know the actual destinations for the gasoline refined in Texas? Is the gasoline transported by tanker truck or pipeline?

(This post was edited by Bennie García on Apr 28, 2012, 5:38 AM)

YucaLandia

Apr 28, 2012, 7:17 AM

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Johansen,
Communication with just text is a struggle. (Thanks for the laugh ! )

I'll try again: I don't think it's that bad here. I do think there was a problem this one time with the one station's gasoline (the one where I buy gasoline for the trimmer). I think our cars run better with a good fuel system cleaner, but you should add the cleaner more often here.
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Joaquinx,
Good observation about tipping the taxis to get in a little more fuel - and a great example of how designing the best "fool-proof" systems only breeds better fools. (Not you - the taxi drivers and Pemex workers - *grin* )

Again, complete communication with just a few lines of text can be a struggle: Filling a vehicle past the pump's auto-shutoff does not harm the motor. It screws up the vapor collection emissions control systems (see diagram in the previous link). When you poison the vapor condenser canister ("charcoal canister") with liquid gasoline by overfilling the tank, the charcoal typically never works right again - and the car then leaks significant amounts of gasoline vapors for the rest of its life.

Since the raw gasoline vapors have substantial amount of benzene and other likely carcinogens, it's not nice having a car emitting hazardous vapors all the time (running or sitting). The raw gasoline vapors come from the sitting car then comes into our homes (in garages, carports etc) for our families or neighbors to breathe. The car also usually emits significantly more HC pollutants for the rest of its life, especially if the canister has been poisoned more than once.

So, the taxi motor runs fine, but that says nothing about the overall vehicle emissions.
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(This post was edited by YucaLandia on Apr 28, 2012, 8:37 AM)

tonyburton

Apr 28, 2012, 12:15 PM

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Exactly, and this cross-border traffic won't end any time soon: http://geo-mexico.com/?p=5405

Moisheh

Apr 28, 2012, 12:37 PM

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Bennie: I know next to mothing about that joint venture. I am not even sure that Pemex is sending that fuel to Mexico. I doubt that is public information. Other than some press releases much of what Pemex spews forth is false info. This is a company that is lacking in technology and has one of the worst Unions in N.A. Full of corruption far worse than the Wal Mart scandal. If people knew what really happens at Pemex even the Gov. would be shocked.

Moisheh

Bennie García

Apr 28, 2012, 2:08 PM

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Bennie: I know next to mothing about that joint venture.

Well if you know nothing about it, maybe you should withhold offering an opinion on the subject.

Moisheh

Apr 28, 2012, 4:32 PM

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I have been a member of this forum for over 20 years. I must say that in that time there were few obnoxious posters. But along came Bennie. Do you ever offer assistance when someone has a question or do you spend every waking hour Pi--ing off posters? Every thread in which you participate ends up the same way. I vow to never communicate with you in any way and to never read any of your posts as they are not worth squat. You have done more to degrade this forum than any other poster. I would bet that if you belong to other forums your online personality is just as ugly!

Moisheh

johanson

Apr 28, 2012, 7:02 PM

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You had me scared there :) YucaLandia. I'm glad that...............

you "don't think it's that bad here. I do think there was a problem this one time with the one station's gasoline (the one where I buy gasoline for the trimmer). I think our cars run better with a good fuel system cleaner" ....................

Bennie García

Apr 28, 2012, 7:43 PM

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Well, as Steve Matin said....excuuuuuuuse me. I never attacked you personally. My problem was with the content of your posts.

Before this thread most if not all the other participants had no idea that Mexico imported at least 50% of its gasoline from the USA. (A fact that you said was not correct.) That simple fact had a lot of bearing on the legitimacy of the original topic of this thread that claimed that Mexican gasoline was not equal to US gasoline in quality.

Another poster mentioned that he had no prior knowledge of Pemex' arrangement with the Deer Park refinery, something that again I'll assume many readers of this thread did not know. So you see, unlike you, I actually contributed to the enlightenment of other posters reading this thread. You have a problem with that?

In the past you have also posted some absolutely ignorant assumptions on other subjects such as construction. You just can't seem to handle justified criticisms or corrections of your post's contents. Eso es tu problemo, no mio.

(This post was edited by Bennie García on Apr 28, 2012, 8:30 PM)

sarahyoung75

Apr 30, 2012, 4:19 AM

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Use only approved containers for gasoline . . .
Does anyone else ever wonder about the quality of Mexico’s single brand of Pemex gasoline versus the USA’s plethora of brands?

As a combination car-guy / chemist, I have seen both the car problems and environmental problems that gasoline and gasoline stations can cause, but I never imagined that our local Pemex station would have such issues . . .
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http://yucalandia.wordpress.com/...-issues-the-article/

Really I don't know about this. Thanks for sharing this information.

bfwpdx

Apr 30, 2012, 4:46 AM

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Huh? Not to split hairs here, but in British English, chamois ONLY refers to leather cloth made from the mountain sheep etc etc etc. There are known counterfeits, but those of course are therefore not chamois.

mazbook1

Apr 30, 2012, 5:21 AM

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Maybe you still see real chamois in Britain, but Chamois CLOTH is about 100 times more common in the U.S. I don't even remember when I saw the last real chamois.

FYI, real chamois is leather, and the last time I checked, leather was not a cloth, so "leather cloth" doesn't make sense. Chamois cloth is a cloth that is woven to resemble chamois, but isn't leather at all.

bfwpdx

Apr 30, 2012, 5:35 AM

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Well I beg to differ. A cloth is an artifact and it can be felted as well as woven. A chamois cloth refers to the artifact and it is supposed to be made from leather from a mountain sheep (or lamb). The relevant use of "chamois cloth" is not the use of "cloth" but whether or not it is real chamois or synthetic. What you call chamois cloth, I would call "synthetic chamois cloth". Not to be too picky about it....

Sculptari

Apr 30, 2012, 1:23 PM

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A chamois leather is unique that it rapidly sucks up drops of water and does not harden like other leathers. It was used mostly on automobiles with a highly waxed surface, after a rainfall, it absorbs the water without damaging the wax shine. It would be totally inappropriate to filter gasoline, this would destroy the leather. Back then, a cotton cheesecloth would be more appropriate for straining gasoline, catching moisture, as well as debris, and then economically discarded (or burnt). Today - microfibers are used as chamois (ever seen the "Sham - wow" infomercial?) and gas filters can be made of a wide variety of materials - but none of them leather.

chinagringo

Apr 30, 2012, 1:35 PM

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Wrong! As stated, this technique was used in India in the early 60's in virtually every EXXON gas station throughout the country. I mistated in my post that it was chamois cloth - it was definitely a leather chamois! I have no idea how often they changed chamois or any other details. All I know is that I stood there for 15 to 20 minutes far too many times while they filled our Mercury wagon. On the other hand, I drove an Indian made Ambassador, which was basically an older model Fiat manufactured using old Fiat molds after they were done with them. That car ran on most anything but not all that well.
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mazbook1

Apr 30, 2012, 2:46 PM

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And my Grandad used a (leather) chamois to filter the cheap tractor gasoline (tax free) on the farm when I was a kid. I "think" he may have washed it in soapy water afterward, then allowed it to dry before the next use, but I don't know that for certain.

GringoCArlos

Apr 30, 2012, 9:31 PM

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I think that my Dad and Granddad's advice still holds true here in Mexico. basically, it's buy your gas where the lines are.

There are lots of local gas stations, and all sell gas at the same price. Only a few are busy. Taxi drivers in particular know where they get the correct amount that they are paying for and where the pumps are getting played with, or selling old/bad gasoline. They don't buy their gas at those stations.

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Sculptari

May 1, 2012, 7:03 AM

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I can imagine the sardonic laughter of the aliens, who long ago gave up on earthlings, watching the pagan worship of the automobile, planning our whole societies around them, feeding them with the flesh and blood of extinct dinosaurs, filtered through the skin of a very particular dead goat!

chicois8

May 1, 2012, 4:44 PM

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Sculptari states " feeding them with the flesh and blood of extinct dinosaurs"

Fossil fuels consist mainly of dead plants – coal from trees, and natural gas and oil from algae.....

happyjack

May 1, 2012, 5:19 PM

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And?????????????duh

don pedro

May 4, 2012, 5:00 PM

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the gas here is definitely crappy and i don't care where it comes from. i use premium in mi moto and 4 years ago i got a new carb. i tickle it to start and within 1 week the outside was brown making it look as old as the bike. i also go through filters like shiite through a goose. it is clear and i can see the crap in it. i have 6 of them until my next visitor comes down with more.
what i am going to do after advice from my moto mecanico friend in canada is ad a bit of tequila blanco to each tank of gas.
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mazbook1

May 4, 2012, 7:15 PM

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don pedro, Adding tequila blanco to the gas will just double your problem. Tequila blanco is 60% water, and I guarantee you it will immediately separate out once the tequila is added to the gasoline. Then you will have dirty gas PLUS water! Been there, done that!

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