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Yacatecuhtli


Apr 11, 2012, 11:27 AM

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En route to Easter Sunday Mass

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"Last weekend, my 14-year-old daughter, Michaela, and I were en route to Easter Sunday mass in Acapulco. We were stopped, harassed, threatened, and detained by eight soldiers in battle fatigues brandishing automatic weapons. At first, I was merely concerned; after all, we were traveling with RFK Human Rights Award Laureate Abel Barrera and his legal team, among the brightest lawyers in Mexico. Our attorneys immediately cited four articles of the Mexican constitution that the infantry lieutenant violated. After establishing that we were an international human rights organization, the lieutenant responsible for the checkpoint maliciously demanded to inspect our belongings for narcotics, he raged menacing, "I am the authority, I have the power." At that moment, my heart stopped......"

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! Al pan, pan y al vino, vino !



GringoCArlos

Apr 12, 2012, 12:44 PM

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Yes, I have read Ms Kennedy's blog posting. Fairly dramatic and adding some zip for her rich sponsors somewhere else, and a great story to be repeated 100 times later over cocktails in Washington. "On my trip to Mexico,, you wouldn't believe what happened to us. bla bla bla".

She confuses the issue she wanted to address, which is that military criminals should be tried in civilian courts and not in military courts. That should probably be the case with the people involved in Bonfilio Rubio's shooting. I wasn't there so I don't know.

My problems with her post?

1) "illegal roadblocks by the military". In case she hasn't heard, there is a fair amount of drug transport activities going on in MX. Does she think that the bad guys stop their work for Semana Santa and go skipping off to Easter Mass in their Sunday best too? The military in MX is empowered to make checkpoints anywhere in MX in order to try to stop the flow of drugs or weapons, and catch bad guys, aren't they?

2) From her description of her group's encounter with a military checkpoint, her companions (consisting of some of the most brilliant lawyers in ALL of Mexico), started spouting off the law to a small group of military guys somewhere along a road. (and I can hear the spoken or unspoken words behind all of that talk "Do you know who I am, and who I know???") Most military guys here don't have a lot of education, but they usually do have a weapon in hand. Poor choice.

This happens from rich guys, politicians, and the bad guys in many places, and not just in Mexico - "Do you know who I am?" as if that somehow excludes them or elevates them from the laws. I can imagine any military or police guy gets sick of hearing this on a daily basis. They DO have the power to do their jobs. Lose your focus on human rights for a minute and see it for what it was. It was a checkpoint. Period. Being a lawyer or someone famous doesn't immediately exclude involvement in drug activities.

If the party being questioned is especially overbearing, I can imagine the cops/military flip out at this, just like the po-po on the COPS show after getting all sweaty and out of breath chasing down a car thief after a 10 mile chase. Someone's probably gonna get roughed up a bit, either physically or verbally.

If her friends, the brilliant lawyers, were that smart, why did they spout off to a group of people who have no power to change things instead of just saying "Buenos dias", then shutting their mouths, keeping their hands in plain view, showing their papers, get through the checkpoint and go on to Mass where they could say a prayer? Were they trying to impress you, or the military guys, with their vast knowledge of the laws? (four articles of the Mexican Constitution?? Really? - these lawyers could only come up with FOUR on the spot???)

Instead of debating the law with a few soldiers along a road, wouldn't it have been a better choice to discuss this over a nice big spread of comida and drinks with the people who actually make the laws and procedures that govern the guys out in the campo trying to enforce them. That's how it works, doesn't it Kerry?

Here's the deal, Kerry Kennedy: Just as in the US, the good folks in MX want the police/military/government in MX to stop the bad guys and their various activities. They put a lot of pressure on the politicians, military and police to do "something". The rich folks want this too, but their unspoken addendum that accompanies their checks to the politicians is "as long as it doesn't involve me personally."

Another wild guess: if you were in such prestigious company, with a large group, you were probably traveling to Mass in Acapulco in a new Suburban with dark tinting on all of its windows. I seriously doubt that all of the people you traveled with (or their egos) could fit in anything smaller or older, and you sure as heck didn't go in a taxivan....

Just a question: what do you think that a lot of the bad guys in MX cruise around in? If you were some poor slob in a military uniform, with just a small group of other military along a roadway and saw this vehicle coming at you, what would you feel at that moment? Wouldn't your adrenalin start pumping and your butt pucker up?

R.I.P. RFK.


(This post was edited by GringoCArlos on Apr 12, 2012, 1:03 PM)


gringolandia

Apr 12, 2012, 1:01 PM

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cbviajero

Apr 12, 2012, 2:05 PM

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Excellent post GC,We just returned from Guanajuato,on our way back to Guadalajara,we were stopped at two army check points,probably because I'm driving a Tacoma,perfunctory search and polite professional soldiers,no problem,I for one welcome the army's presence,the mexican cops sure as hell aren't up to the task assigned them .
Chris


YucaLandia


Apr 12, 2012, 2:48 PM

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Amen.
We also have "illegal military roadblocks" masquerading as checkpoints. They do "interrogate" people about where they are coming from and going to. They continue their interrogations and violate our rights to privacy in our cars by asking about driver's personal lives, like: " What is the purpose of your travel? ", as they "menacingly brandish" automatic weapons.

It's a real breath of fresh air for someone to point out the realities.
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chinagringo


Apr 12, 2012, 3:24 PM

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Be it NOB or SOB, two things can get you in serious hot water: 1) an attitude, 2) having something to hide!

We don't have either and thus being stopped at any kind of checkpoint is nothing more that a brief delay. Certainly no stress or anything to get upset about.
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



cbviajero

Apr 12, 2012, 4:32 PM

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Soldiers carry weapons,it's hard to carry automatic weapons and not appear menacing, personally I like it when they keep their fingers outside of the trigger guards,have there been abuses by the army,of course there have, but IMO they're more trustworthy than any of the different police corporations.


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richmx2


Apr 13, 2012, 9:38 PM

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Having previously lived on the U.S. border with Mexico, where the rationale is different, there's nothing unusual about these roadblocks. All kinds of constitutional rights are also violated, but I was not about to argue the point with an armed bureaucrat.


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