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karenanron

Mar 25, 2012, 10:08 AM

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I tried the search feature and had no luck, so I'll ask. We will bring our travel trailer down and I know the TIP for our truck and trailer will be tied to our FMM. Now, with my wife being much younger than I we're thinking of her getting her FM3 ( I know, it's not called that now, but FM3 is easier to remember) and me listed as her dependent. Can the TIP for the truck and trailer be in my name? I ask this because my wife will have to go back NOB from time to time for family and I don't want any problems with the TIP issue. But then as I type this, with an FM3 she can't she go NOB and leave vehicles in Mx? Maybe I answered my own question here.....lol I would still like to have someone's opinion on this just to be sure we're legal in Mx



RickS


Mar 25, 2012, 11:21 AM

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Your post was a bit confusing to me, but....

For starters, a TIP is associated with a visa..... one visa not two (you said 'our' visa). It will also reference one US passport number. The TIP will have to be associated with someone whose name is on the truck and trailer title.

You said that you were thinking of getting you wife an FM3. You didn't mention whether you were doing so also. If you stay with an FMM, you will have to exit Mexico after 180 days. If the TIP is associated with your FMM (and it will have to be if only your name is on the truck and trailer title), then the truck and trailer must exit Mexico too.

If the TIP is in your wife's name (assuming that her name is on both titles), and she initially gets an FMM, the TIP will continue to be valid as long as your wife has a visa that is valid.... and this will be true even if she moves to an FM3 within 180 days. If she gets an FM3 within 180 days, and notifies Aduana of this fact, the TIP will continue to be valid as long as her FM3 is valid, including any annual updates (at which time she must also inform Aduana again I think). The fact that she (now) has an FM3, and that the TIP is still valid because she has a valid visa, has no bearing on her ability to travel NOB nor with the status of the TIP. She can come and go and not have to worry about taking the truck/trailer with her.... they can stay in Mexico legally while she is away.

Your question of 'can the TIP for the truck and trailer stay in my name...', the answer is yes. But if you continue to have an FMM, you must remove yourself and the truck and the trailer before the visa and the TIP expire in 180 days.

If I'm missing something, I'm sure you can point that out.


(This post was edited by RickS on Mar 25, 2012, 11:23 AM)


karenanron

Mar 25, 2012, 11:42 AM

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Thanks RickS. My status would be my wife's dependent. The reason for doing it this way is I'm much older than my wife and with the visa in her name she won't have to apply for her own after I'm gone. If I read your reply correctly, then the truck and trailer would be in my wife's name, since she will have the visa, which I don't think will be a problem since both vehicles are in both our names. My wife needs to be able to go NOB and leave vehicles behind, but I think I've read somewhere she can do that with an FM3. If I'm rambling, it's because we just got home from Mexico and my head is still there, not to mention tired....lol


RickS


Mar 25, 2012, 12:13 PM

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" My wife needs to be able to go NOB and leave vehicles behind, but I think I've read somewhere she can do that with an FM3."

Yes, absolutely she can do that. 'Thousands' of trips like that are made each year by expats.


sparks


Mar 25, 2012, 12:27 PM

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I'm not sure what you mean by a dependent. You can apply as a married couple but you both need visas

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Vichil

Mar 25, 2012, 12:45 PM

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Why don´t you get two independent FM3 ? It requires a little more income but it sure simplifies things.

Sparks as a couple you can enter with independent separate FM3 or you can enter with one person being the dependent of the other.
The requirement for income is less but one FM3 is tied to the other. I entred that way and I finally got out of it when I went Inmigrado.
I think that if you can you are better off being independent than dependent.


karenanron

Mar 25, 2012, 12:56 PM

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Independent visas would be the answer, but our problem is we don't know my wife's income yet (we're waiting for an early out that should come in a few months). And she's too young for social security. As my wife's dependent, I'll have to prove half the income of what she would have to for her visa


La Isla


Mar 25, 2012, 3:51 PM

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Independent visas would be the answer, but our problem is we don't know my wife's income yet (we're waiting for an early out that should come in a few months). And she's too young for social security. . .


I'm a little confused. Will your wife be working in Mexico?


karenanron

Mar 25, 2012, 4:10 PM

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No. She is working NOB and will be offered an early out in the next few months. Too young for social security but will have income from other investments. We don't know right now how much annuity she will get so we can't count on her having enough to apply for a visa. However, I have enough and will show that income to our bank and she will apply for the visa with me as her dependent. I'm much older and I'm want it set up so when I die she won't have to go through all this again.


Vichil

Mar 25, 2012, 6:10 PM

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When we came down , we had no income and were too young to be on SS, We just showed the money we needed to have for a year in a joint account in the States and that was fine. If you can do that she can have an independent visa. If you want to show less money you can be her dependent to start with and you can pay a fee later on to become independent.
I was told to apply for the independent visa at a different time than at the renewal time by the people from the immigration.


(This post was edited by Vichil on Mar 25, 2012, 6:17 PM)


karenanron

Mar 25, 2012, 6:18 PM

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Yeah Vichill, I forgot about going that way. Thanks for hitting me along side the head to jog my memory.


sparks


Mar 25, 2012, 7:35 PM

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If you have enough money sitting around to pay yourselves the necesary monthly income ... just use a "pay bill" plan. Immigration doesn't care where it comes from. Or just transfer from savings to checking and show them the checking income

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Vichil

Mar 26, 2012, 7:14 AM

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The US bank account statements are fine. The only thing is that sometimes, not all the times they have to be translated so it is an extra cost.
After they get settled they can open a bank account or saving account here, transfer the money and sho the Mexican bank account.


YucaLandia


Mar 26, 2012, 4:51 PM

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The INM offices that karenandron would use (Progreso or Merida) have not required that bank statements be translated.

If they simply circle the beginning and ending statement dates, circle the beginning and ending balances, and circle deposits - INM agents here accept un-translated official financial statements from US banks - so there is no exta cost.
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Vichil

Mar 26, 2012, 5:46 PM

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Then it is easy to do. Over the last 11 years they have asked us to have them translated twice so you just never know but it is not the end of the world either way.


Papirex


Mar 26, 2012, 8:31 PM

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It depends on which state you live in. Here, in Morelos, they have required translated copies of original bank statements for several years. They used to just require original untranslated bank statements. My work-around for that was to simply print the online bank statements. The pages are not numbered, but the printed copies do have the word “copy” on the upper right side.


I use white-out to cover the word copy, then scan them and print them again. There are usually four pages for each statement. I never print the last page, as it is nothing but advertisements for mortgages, insurance, etc. I fold the pages I have printed in thirds, so it will appear like they were in an envelope at one time.


I have only been questioned twice to ask if they were originals, both times by translators. I told the man I use now, that they are what the bank sends me, and they do look like copies. He laughed, and said that many banks are doing it that way now.


I used to use a court approved translator that charged me $200 Pesos per page to translate anything. I now use a facilitator that translates them at no extra cost. He only charges me $200 Pesos to renew my visa every year. He comes to my house at least twice. He brings his own wireless laptop and printer with him.


He has already printed a letter of solicitation to give to the immigration service, that I must sign, and makes any copies necessary. He takes that info to The INM office that day. He also tells me how many and what sized photos I need.


After telephoning me, he comes back a day or two later. I pay his fees and any fee required by the INM service. He takes me in his own car to the INM office, so they can take my fingerprints, and finish preparing my new visa card.


Can't beat it, it is cheap, and it beats the hell out of doing it by myself.


Rex
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Rolly


Mar 26, 2012, 10:09 PM

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It's been up and down at my INM.
Renewal 1 and 2, no translation
3, 4 and 5, official translator
6, 7, 8, 9 and 10, no translation
11, this year, translation but I was allowed to do my own

Rolly Pirate
 
 
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