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littletulip01

Mar 15, 2012, 3:32 PM

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Importing and Nationalizing a USA or Canadian Vehicle

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I live in Mazatlán, Sinaloa, México. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012, in Nogales, México I nationalized my 2004 Honda Odyssey. In order to nationalize a USA or Canadian vehicle present Mexican law requires that the vehicle be at least 8 years old and its VIN must start with a number and not a letter. Beginning with a number indicates the vehicle was made in the USA or Canada. If the VIN begins with a letter, that indicates it was made elsewhere and cannot be imported into and nationalized in México even if the owner purchased the vehicle from a dealer in the USA or Canada.

I wanted to nationalize the Honda for a couple of reasons. I have not returned to Illinois in some time. Illinois requires an emissions test in order to keep the registration up to date. I obtained a 2 year exemption. Then one year I was in Phoenix/Scottsdale AZ at the Mayo Clinic and Hospital and Illinois accepted the Arizona emissions test. Then I got another exemption. Now, I would have to return to Phoenix to get a test to satisfy Illinois.

The other reason for nationalization is the fact I have a Mexican helper/driver who, under Mexican law, cannot drive the Honda without the gringo owner in the car. Otherwise, the car could be confiscated by Aduana (Mexican customs).

The importation or conversion has to be done at a border town. To own a Mexican car one has to have a Mexican drivers license, which I do have. A vehicle that is 8 years old can be nationalized. By the way, Aduana (customs) is on a fiscal year beginning November 1, so my 2004 Honda was "eight years old customwise" last Nov 1, 2011 when I could have nationalized it.

The customs agent met us at 9 a.m. We went to Km 21 to cancel the 2004 permit. Then the agent directed us through an incredible maze of streets behind the vehicle crossing area just before the border. At the first place a young woman went over all the details and then affixed a brand new type of sticker to the windshield ($40 USD worth!) that must stay in the car. If the windshield is broken, I am supposed to stick it to a piece of paper and keep it in the glove compartment.

Then through the maze the agent directed us to the final customs office where I had to show my Mexican drivers license, sign a form, and receive the last rubber stamp. And that was it.....all in about 40 minutes. I was given a paper with which I can go directly to Tránsito here in Mazatlán to get the Sinaloa plates for the Honda.

By the way, last weekend I emailed the agent with attachments: copies of the Illinois title, my no inmigrante visa, my driver’s license, the permit to import the car in 2004 (thanks to a tip from Lin Doan and Bernardo Pérez). So, the agent filled out all the forms ahead of time.

We really lucked out in finding a customs agent, Óscar Angulo, who was bright, personable and effective (cell: 631-99-9-5024 email: ancomercial@hotmail.com).

Our cost was $1,540.00 (varies with make and model, I guess) for the "conversion" plus whatever the plates cost (and of course, the cost of going to a border town which is the only place this can be done). Mexican Customs wants the payment in US Dollars not Mexican Pesos....which I found very odd.

The agent, Óscar, said the process is different in Mexicali and Tijuana, and now more expensive than Nogales. I have no personal knowledge of that, but somehow it does not surprise me that Government agencies might handle things differently in other venues.

There have been rumors that in order to import and nationalize the owner must be a Mexican citizen. That is not so. I am not a Mexican citizen, and I am here on a no inmigrante visa.

There is also a rumor that one has to present evidence of passing a current emissions test from California, Arizona, or some other state. That certainly was not the case with the Honda Odyssey, and I believe it is just a rumor and nothing more.



Sculptari

Mar 16, 2012, 2:21 PM

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I realized that no one has thanked for this concise and detailed post on your personal experience nationalizing a vehicle into Mexico. This has to be one of the most asked questions on this and other Mexican forums year after year. Thank you for taking the time.


littletulip01

Mar 16, 2012, 4:55 PM

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It was my pleasure. After all, I use these forums too, so I should share whatever relevant info I may have to help others. Sincerely, Tom C. Whitmore, littletulip@msn.com.


Moisheh

Mar 18, 2012, 7:17 AM

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Thank you for that informative post. I was surprised to hear that you did not need an emission test. Just before Xmas when all the Paisanos were visiting they DID need the emission papers. I t was well doumented in both the Mexican and AZ media. Perhaps they did away with that requirement after public pressure. Rumor has it that the Auto Dealers Assoc. in Mexico had lobbied the Hacienda to impose that regulation. Enjoy your Honda!

Moisheh


littletulip01

Mar 19, 2012, 4:47 PM

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I asked our customs agent, Óscar Angulo, about the emissions test and he replied:
"SI, DEJAME TE EXPLICO HABIA UNA REGLA QUE TENIAS QUE HABER TENIDO EL EXAMEN DE EMISION, PERO SALIO UN AMPARO CONTA ESA REGLA. Y EN ESTOS MOMENTOS NO ES NECESARIO TRAER ESE EMISSION TEST. SALUDOS"
"Let me explain to you there was a regulation that you had to have passed an emissions tesst, but there was a protection against this regulation. And at the moment it is not necessary to have that emission test. Greetings."
So, I guess we lucked out with one less requirement.
Tom W.


mazbook1


Mar 19, 2012, 5:52 PM

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Actually, an "amparo", at least in the Mexican legal system is more like an "injunction" in the U.S. courts. Translations that use "protection", at least in México, are somewhat misleading.

Obviously, some person or group went to a judge and got an amparo against that regulation. Amparos don't seem to be "temporary", as many injunctions in the U.S. are, and they can take YEARS to get settled.


littletulip01

Mar 24, 2012, 2:55 PM

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Today I picked up my Sinaloa License Plates. The procedure with a nationalized auto is to go to Tránsito and fill out and sign the application. Then that and the aduana form have to be faxed to Culicán, the state capital. There it is checked to make sure it is not a stolen car. That took two days. Then you go back and process the application and get the plates and the annual decal. The cost for the 2004 Honda was $900 Mexican Pesos for the plates, and $680 Pesos for the annual decal. The Tránsito people explained the first plates involve more details. So, now the Honda looks Mexican and is Mexican!
 
 
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