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whistler

Dec 12, 2011, 2:49 PM

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What is involved in taking my mexico plated car to United States

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I want bring back some new bench grinders from Laredo TX to Mexico. I need some guidance from someone with border crossing experience.

I will be in Monterrey MX, and can go to Laredo by bus, then cross the border back to Mexico in a taxi to the bus station in Nuevo Laredo to return to Monterrey.

Or, I can drive my car from Monterrey to Laredo and back to Monterrey.

I want to bring in some bench grinders, four new ones in boxes. I could just bring one and leave the others for another trip.

If I have just one, will customs probably charge duty if they see it?

The grinders are made in the USA but I suspect I might still get asked to pay duty, is that true?

What is the duty rate?

Is it usually easier to pass customs without having to pay duties in a car, in a taxi, or on foot?

Is is better to declare the items and pay duty or not list items on the detail list and only pay if customs flags the items.?



YucaLandia


Dec 12, 2011, 4:00 PM

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Duties on non-commercial items are 16%.

Simply follow the law, declare your items, and pay any duties that remain after your personal exemption.
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whistler

Dec 12, 2011, 4:39 PM

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If the items are in new condition but I dont have a reciept, do I just provide the aduana with an estimate of value, and negotiate with him?


Rolly


Dec 12, 2011, 5:53 PM

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Yes

Rolly Pirate


whistler

Dec 12, 2011, 7:21 PM

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And if I bring in 3 of the grinders, it will have to be declared as commercial I imagine, would that carry a higher duty rate, and maybe require a customs broker?


chinagringo


Dec 12, 2011, 7:58 PM

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I don't get the connection between a Mexican plated car and the grinders. Color me dense!
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Neil
Albuquerque, NM



whistler

Dec 12, 2011, 10:04 PM

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Two separate issues regarding the same trip.


Rolly


Dec 13, 2011, 5:20 AM

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Your Mexican-plated vehicle can be driven in the USA without any paperwork except you must have liability insurance valid in the USA, Your Mexican insurance probably does not meet the requirement.

Rolly Pirate


YucaLandia


Dec 13, 2011, 8:10 AM

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We have friends who have made at least 15 trips into Mexico importing many many things for personal use, and they simply go to E-bay and print out the prices and descriptions/pictures, and then log all the items into an excel spreadsheet. Aduana has accepted these values and their spreadsheet printouts 100% of the time for all their things.

Using E-bay values seems much easier than gambling on face-to-face negotiations on the fly.
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Rolly


Dec 13, 2011, 10:42 AM

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A friend sent this PM:

We've had insurance thru Bancomer (BBVA Seguros Bancomer) for years. We always had to puchase a separate policy for our US trips. This year they changed their policies and automatically added US coverage to our policy (I believe that they added that to their standard policy, not just to ours). While they may be the only ones doing it, I'd suspect that others may also be doing so. It's certainly a change from the past.


Rolly Pirate


surebought

Dec 13, 2011, 12:55 PM

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I drive my Mexican Plated Car to the US every week. You need insurance. I have a Mexican Drivers License. You have to really be careful in California with a Mexican Plated car. Because other drivers are very rude and they will cut you off - make you miss your turns on purpose, so be forewarned. Its probably different in Texas.
Take them all four at once, the grinders. If you get the red light and only if they make eye contact after the red light, then pull into secondary on the left side. Always cross the border on the left side(there is usually only one guy to convince). They are not going to make a big fuss about a dude with four bench grinders. Don't say you're with a Religious Organization and don't say you have a store. They are for your own personal use and stick to that. They don't like to see you bring House Paint. "At least he's going to fill his time with metal work instead of Canadian Club." The worst thing that can happen is you show them the receipt and offer to pay the taxes, but since you are on the left side and the Bank is on the right side, he is far more likely to just let you go because he won't know how, or does not want to fill out the paperwork. He gets paid anyway. You could go through the declaration lane and pay 16%, but what kind of fun would that be. What has really changed is how cool they are on the US customs side with a Mexican Plated Car. Almost any thing goes through within reason. No drugs, bodies, or cheese or more than one bottle of your OSO NEGRO. Everything else gets the nod mostly. The hot thing now is those Tank less Water heaters.

Carlos Salinas di Gortari thought that he would be the President that would change things on the border. He trained thousands of College Graduates in total secrecy. And then one day, he fired every customs inspector in the entire country and replaced them with all these new highly trained college graduates. We all began to worry because back then Baja only had about only a weeks worth of provisions and with a border stoppage, everyone would run out of everything within days. And things were tight for a couple of weeks and then everything went back to normal. Mexico City thinks they have control over the border, but they don't. At the internal check points, say you bought the grinders on the Mexican side of the border. And always be nice. Never raise your voice. You don't want them to remember you in a negative way.


RickS


Dec 13, 2011, 1:38 PM

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surebought said, "The hot thing now is those Tank less Water heaters."

But no pun intended, eh?


YucaLandia


Dec 14, 2011, 5:27 AM

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surebought said: " At the internal check points, say you bought the grinders on the Mexican side of the border."
"You could go through the declaration lane and pay 16%, but what kind of fun would that be."
"The worst thing that can happen is you show them the receipt and offer to pay the taxes,..."

Sure, tell as many outright lies that you can come up with. No wonder Rolly was told that he was the first nice Norte Americano the cab driver had ever met.

What other good advice do you have?
Sit far from the cash register and far from the waitress station so you can steal the silverware at every restaurant?
Bring an large lunch cooler to work so you can steal as many supplies as possible from your employer?
Wear a bulky coat to the grocery store to shoplift and hide as many items as possible, focusing on meat and other expensive small items, and be sure to take your time to find all the video cameras"
If they catch you stealing at work or restaurants or the grocery store offer to pay for what you stole.
Figure out exactly what deduction amounts the IRS allows for you income, and then enter slightly smaller false values into your tax forms, because you won't get caught?
Lie to government officials to get all the welfare and food stamps you can?

Do Americans and Canadians who do these things in Mexico tell similar lies and go out of their way to cheat and steal in Canada and the USA?

Mexico has laws and expects people to follow them. Must the government become a police state of storm troopers bludgeoning its citizens and tourists to follow every rule?

When Canadians and Americans hire workers to do jobs around our homes, do we expect them to follow the rules or do we complain bitterly when they lie, cheat and steal?

Do we now admire or respect people who lie, cheat, and steal?

Do we want friends who lie, cheat, and steal?

Do we teach our children to lie, cheat, and steal - and teach children to give advice on how to lie, cheat and steal?

bizarre...
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(This post was edited by YucaLandia on Dec 14, 2011, 7:23 AM)


esperanza

Dec 14, 2011, 7:19 AM

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To what YucaLandia said--a big AMEN.




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surebought

Dec 15, 2011, 12:47 PM

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Wow yucalandia. What a reaction. You must have just come down here riding in a big White Balloon in the form of an American Flag. You should leave all the chasing of windmills and crusades back across the border. Things are not that regimented here like they are back in Gringolandia. Your whole generation was a total illusion of Cold War prosperity. Preparing for the final battle between good and evil. I would much rather be you than me. We, the younger, have to live and work in the real world before we can make profits to pay taxes to keep those Soc Sec payments coming. If the whole world lived up to your ideal of self righteousness. we may have avoided going to Iraq. Your mighty Military battling in Afghanistan for ten years against an enemy that doesn't even have one tank or helicopter. Because you are right and the rest of the world, and especially me, is wrong. Things have changed. We have done it your way and it hasn't worked out too well. Nothing I said in my post was untrue or illegal. If you choose to live your life in a linear fashion judging others against some false ideal, that's your right and I respect it. I can take the criticism myself. But I will never raise my voice or live with all that confrontation that feeds these illusions. Happy Holidays.


YucaLandia


Dec 16, 2011, 7:27 AM

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Wow yucalandia. What a reaction. You must have just come down here riding in a big White Balloon in the form of an American Flag. You should leave all the chasing of windmills and crusades back across the border. Things are not that regimented here like they are back in Gringolandia. Your whole generation was a total illusion of Cold War prosperity. Preparing for the final battle between good and evil. I would much rather be you than me. We, the younger, have to live and work in the real world before we can make profits to pay taxes to keep those Soc Sec payments coming. If the whole world lived up to your ideal of self righteousness. we may have avoided going to Iraq. Your mighty Military battling in Afghanistan for ten years against an enemy that doesn't even have one tank or helicopter. Because you are right and the rest of the world, and especially me, is wrong. Things have changed. We have done it your way and it hasn't worked out too well. Nothing I said in my post was untrue or illegal. If you choose to live your life in a linear fashion judging others against some false ideal, that's your right and I respect it. I can take the criticism myself. But I will never raise my voice or live with all that confrontation that feeds these illusions. Happy Holidays.


Sorry to hear that you find honesty to be useless and old-fashioned.

You have imagined many things that aren't real.

I come from a family of 350 years of pacifism - grateful for the freedom to pray as we choose, so, you imagine that I advocate war as a part of some imagined grand battle between good and evil. Sorry, neither exist in reality.

Unfortunately, "we have (not) done it (my) way". I believe that the US has made huge unnecessary mistakes.

Regardless of your imagined fanciful projections, I do not collect Social Security.

There was prosperity for my parents generation. Both times that I've entered job markets, the US was in deep recession, so, you continue to make further mistaken inferences. For both my parents and my self, we earned what we have - where my mother averaged 65 hour work weeks and my grandfather, father, and myself averaged 70 - 75 hour work weeks for decades to get that prosperity.

My sense of values vs. you imagined battle of Good v. Evil? I simply think societies and relationships work better when people follow legitimate laws, tell the truth, treat each other with respect, live in reality vs. imagined projections of what makes us feel good.

Things simply work better when people do their best to live with integrity. Integrity means "oneness" - unity - between thought, words, and action. Living with integrity produces seamless smooth transitions between what we believe, what we profess, and what we do.

It seems that these concepts have been beyond your grasp, because you can't imagine that there are people who treat others with respect, follow the law, tell the truth, and work to make their communities and society better for everyone. I do see selfishness and self-serving behaviors that you propose to others and you do to serve yourself as destructive to trust and selfish behaviors that tear-down well-functioning communities and societies. You justify selfishness and lying and going out your way to cheat on taxes and duties, and you claim that reality must either be self-serving and deceitful or it must be a world of Good vs. Evil.

I simply advocate following the law, choosing honesty, treating others with respect by not deceiving them or cheating people, by paying my own way through paying taxes and duties, and by supporting efforts that build society and community vs. selfish actions and choices that erode the quality of life for others.

I apologize for going so far off track, but I think it's worth addressing the tide of selfish advice on the internet that tell people how to skirt the laws, describe how to scam systems, and that advises people to do whatever feels good in the moment and and cruddy behaviors that benefit those who lie, cheat, and steal from the rest of us because they feel like it's somehow OK.
steve
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