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expatsinmexico

Dec 11, 2011, 2:50 PM

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Is there any new information on the implementation of the new immigration law? We are quickly approaching the end of 2011 and we are anxiously waiting some word so we can make our plans......we will be leaving for Guadalajara at the end of March. Don't want to get to Guadalajara and find we have to return to Seattle to get whatever the new visa will be replacing the FM3. Appreciate any information anyone may have. Thanks

La Isla

Dec 11, 2011, 4:22 PM

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I don't believe anyone, not even the people who work at INM, knows how the new law will be implemented. We'll just have to wait and see. But why would you think you'd have to return to Seattle to get your visa? All the expats I know in Mexico City applied for their FM3s once they were here.

expatsinmexico

Dec 11, 2011, 5:04 PM

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Because that is one of he changes in the new law. You will not be able to enter Mexico on a Tourist Visa and then apply for a status change. this is according to the Blog found at the link link referenced below. What I am reading is that you will have to apply outside the country at a consulate in the States after the law takes affect.

http://yucalandia.wordpress.com/...-mexico-the-article/

“Article 53. Visitors, except those for humanitarian reasons and those who have links with Mexican or regular resident alien in Mexico, can not change status of residence and will have to leave the country at the end of the period of stay authorized.“

(This post was edited by Rolly on Dec 11, 2011, 5:47 PM)

chinagringo

Dec 11, 2011, 5:21 PM

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I think most experienced Mexico travelers and residents would probably agree at this point that no one has any realistic idea of just what will happen when they implement the new rules & regs. There has been endless speculation and attempts to interpret the intent of the new law but this is Mexico!
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Neil
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expatsinmexico

Dec 11, 2011, 5:42 PM

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That is pretty much what I figured. I haven't asked the question for several months and was hoping someone was in the know since we are quickly approaching the New Year. I will get back on this forum at the end of February and ask the question again....that is about as late as we would be able to contact the Consulate here before our departure in March. It would be our preference to enter with a tourist visa and get some help changing our status. Thanks for the information or verifying the "lack of it" at this time.

chinagringo

Dec 11, 2011, 6:13 PM

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While there exists a possibility that the new rules & regs may just go into effect prior to your planned return trip to this forum in February, keep in mind that the implementation may not be equally dispensed at all locations. In my estimation, that would be an absolute miracle and very contrary to the norm.

This may be one of the hardest things for someone from NOB to understand and accept but experience has made it one of the most intriguing things about Mexico! Every day and every experience is a new adventure and one's ability to go with the flow without stressing can make it real fun!
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Neil
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expatsinmexico

Dec 11, 2011, 6:51 PM

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I have no problem understanding it. Just trying to find out the latest news. Apparently it is what I expected "none"

johanson

Dec 11, 2011, 7:13 PM

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Dear Bound4Ajijic:

It sounds like you're from I 5, Exit 103 or so. When up north, I'm near exit 165 off of Madison.

Well, my papers are with immigration in Chapala for renewal right now. So far, everything is going by the old schedule. I should have my papers back before Christmas, although the renew date is Jan 6, 2012.

expatsinmexico

Dec 12, 2011, 7:53 AM

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Your close Exit 104 off Hwy 101.

We are hoping that we will be able to enter on a tourist VISA and the apply with the help from a facilitator that was recommended to us. If the implementation of the new law takes place before March we will have to become familiar with the changes in the rules and adjust accordingly. For now we are just holding in a wait and see pattern. We are just putting in a few more months of work and that is about all we can concentrate on right now. I will check back in in February to see if anything is new. Thanks everyone for the info.

YucaLandia

Dec 18, 2011, 6:10 AM

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I fully respect what La Isla has said.

Still, when helping a friend replace his Inmigrante card** this past Thursday, I asked several of our (Merida office) INM personnel about the specifics of the new upcoming Reglamentos and when they will go into effect. The same INM agent who gave us the earliest & fullyu accurate information about the May 1, 2010 changes - explained that the new Reglamentos will go into effect on Jan. 2, 2012. She also said that they have not received copies of the Reglamentos yet.

Here's the fun: The INM offices are closed from tomorrow until Jan. 1, 2012. We asked another agent if the INM employees will be working during this time that the offices are closed, and she said that it will be "puro vacaciones" for them...

This will either make for a bit of fun/confusion for people applying for the new categories of INM immigrants status, at least in our office - or maybe as L.I. observed, their predictions were just their personal observations?

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**A brief caution about car accidents. The friend who needs to replace his Inmigrante card had it disappear after an extremely minor car accident. The friend was sitting at a semaforo waiting his turn, and was hit in the back bumper. Both cars pulled off onto a side street. The friend got out of his car, inspected the minor damage to his bumper, and walked back to exchange information with the other driver. The other driver rolled up his window, and would not get out or talk.

After calling the police and his insurance company, as the friend waited for them to come, the other driver decided to bolt.

The friend's memory is a bit fuzzy on all of this, because he lost consciousness: As he stood near his car, apparently the other driver hit my friend, knocking him to the ground... He remembers the insurance agent helping him. He partly remembers being taken to the hospital. He remembers various scans and tests. He has significant damage to his face, hands, has significant weakness in his left arm, and a number of traumatic brain injury effects. - and his Inmigrante card disappeared in the process(es).

In hindsight, fotos of the damage to each car, fotos of the positions of the cars (don't move them), and fotos of the other driver might be helpful. The police are saying they will do nothing in the meantime, until the extent of the medical and auto damages are formally assessed => no arrest yet. It also points to staying in your car, and NOT interacting much with the other driver or their passengers after you have taken their information, make & model of car, fotos, etc.

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expatsinmexico

Mar 3, 2012, 12:44 PM

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Well we are into March and have about three weeks left before we head South. I haven't seen anything posted on the implementation of the new immigration law for some time so I presume nothing has changed. Now we are just trying to decide rather to apply in Seattle or head south and get a tourist visa and take care of the non-immigrado in Ajijic. I just don't want to just get down there and find the rules changed and we have to make an expensive trip back to the States to make application under the new rules. Any new news?

Rolly

Mar 3, 2012, 1:02 PM

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In December the head of the INM office in San Miguel de Allende opined that the new rules might be activated in the Spring of 2012.
If you want to be absolutely safe, start the process in Seattle before you come south.

Rolly Pirate

skier14

Mar 3, 2012, 8:11 PM

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I go to INM in Guadalajara, Jalisco after March 11th to file for my second refrendo of my FM2(Inmigrante). I was hoping things would have changed by now so I could go to Inmigrado. Maybe next year.