Dec 5, 2011, 2:36 PM
Post #6 of 8
Re: [surebought] Donating/Surrendering a car to the Government of Mexico
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Now it is going to etch in everybody's brain that they are going to lose their car if they can't get it back to the US before the permit expires. I am sure that there is a procedure for this kind of thing without violating the sanctity of Mexican Law.
He hasn't done any research. He has just translated a few bylaws and wants to play victim.
There are always ways of circumventing a ridiculous situation in Mexico without problems. Mexico is very bureaucratic but the bureaucracy doesn't like to do paperwork. If he could only speak a little Spanish, he could go to the local Delegation and talk to the Secretaries. They don't want to do the paper work if he submits his car, so use this to your advantage, and they'll tell you how to do it with no bribes, just friendship because it is less work for them. I am sure this has come up before and nobody had to give their car away. What do you think people do when their car gets stolen or destroyed on a temporary permit? I know this is a forum and I do express tough love sometimes with the participants, but really I have seen so many people come down here and do really unnecessary damage to themselves by the Gringo interpretation of a system which is changing all the time for the better. Some have even been swindled out of their life savings and have to live out their lives on Social Security. If this forum is to serve its participants, then it should encourage people to seek out solutions to their problems without conflict and always playing that "I am a victim card." The locals are taught to treat this as a weakness to be exploited. In less developed societies people are taught to sense weakness and take advantage of it and they are really good at it here. You don't want to play victim with the locals. This is not the intent of the law and exceptions are probably made on a case by case basis by the local delegation. In the US these days they are trying to get people away from linear thinking in the schools. Some people think it is our biggest weakness as a nation. You hear, "thinking outside the Box," a lot up there these days. Down here, nobody ever thought inside the box. Its not drilled into them from birth to think about strict interpretation of anything.
Just for fun, I have talked with Aaron.
It turns out that he has done lots of research.
It turns out he speaks excellent Spanish, and has lived and worked in Mexico on and off for at least 25 years.
It turns out that he has been married to a lovely Mexicana for many years, and that they almost exclusively speak Spanish at home, because her mother speaks only Spanish.
It turns out that he is willingly looking for a legal way to deal with this car - and he is no victim, because he is doing what he wants to do.
The internet sure can be a very strange place, where people often misunderstand things. Maybe it is because we only see the words on the screen - oversimplifying? - imagining what must be? - never seeing beyond the screen, to comprehend all the rich details and context that lie behind the flat text.
Best of luck Aaron,
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