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RickS


Nov 10, 2011, 8:59 AM

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The World's Best Retirement Havens

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International Living's 2011 Version of this report. Mexico comes in 2nd to Ecuador.

http://internationalliving.com/2011/08/the-worlds-best-retirement-haven/


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happynz

Nov 10, 2011, 1:01 PM

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Strange to me that New Zealand was rated number five. International Living is having people on when they say living costs are lower than the US or Canada. Trust me, it ain't cheap here folks. How about the equivalent of US$200 for a pair of running shoes. A paperback novel at any of the major bookselling chains will set you back at least NZ$30 (US$24) or more. Putting petrol in your tank is currently would cost a prospective pensioner NZ$2.07/litre (US$6.20/gallon). The site does mention that salaries are low in New Zealand, no kidding mate, and it is the reason why over 100,000 Kiwis have permanently bailed out on this country and fled over the ditch to Australia in the past three years to join the other half-million New Zealanders living and working in Oz.

The IL blurb site failed to mention the immigration policies for New Zealand. It's all a point game. Generally speaking, if you are under 55, have a related qualification to a New Zealand job offer, are in generally good health, and haven't had any nasty criminal convictions, you're good to go (of course after investing several thousand dollars in application fees and levies). However, if you have a minimum of NZ$1.5 million to splash out on investment in New Zealand you could get in without too much drama. NZ$10 million and you get permanent residency with practically no bother at all. However if you are an average sort with an average pension, over the age of 55, and no family in New Zealand, two words -- forget it.

With this in mind, I have to take International Living's rankings with a grain of salt.
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BobC

Nov 10, 2011, 2:07 PM

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International Living is a commercial venture. They always have their "flavour of the month" depending, probably who is paying. Mist definitely take what they say with a large dose of salt!


Minerva909

Nov 20, 2011, 8:54 AM

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Interesting: Spain and three of her former colonies have top four places. All of them with bysantine Spanish bureaucracy? I have only lived in Mexico and Spain of these four, but also in Puerto Rico, another Spanish colony ... and Spanish style bureaucracy is the worst feature of all of them.


La Isla


Nov 20, 2011, 9:42 AM

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Interesting: Spain and three of her former colonies have top four places. All of them with bysantine Spanish bureaucracy? I have only lived in Mexico and Spain of these four, but also in Puerto Rico, another Spanish colony ... and Spanish style bureaucracy is the worst feature of all of them.


An interesting point. I wonder how byzantine the bureaucracy seems to foreigners attempting to retire (or work) in the States.


Minerva909

Nov 20, 2011, 9:51 PM

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When I moved to the USA from Sweden in 1981 US seemed a heaven without bureaucracy. Getting a work permit both for myself and for my spouse was a child's play...though we got two different visas: I as a research fellow at Stanford got an academic visa, while he as an electronic guru (wih several world patents despite young age) got a regular work permit almost instantaneously.

We got permanent residency for the whole family within a year and with no hassle - we did not even have to wait in line at the INS office: Erik's employer's attorney got us to the front of the line within less than 5 minutes. But many years later, when my daughter "imported" a hubby from Sweden, we got him a permanent residence permit without hassles and without an attorney.

None of our Scandinavian friends in US ever complained of having any troubles with bureaucracy here. Granted, they are all university graduates with specialties in which there are shortages among Americans, so they get a red carpet treatment from INS. Us bureaucracy is usually simple and straightforward.

Filing taxes in the USA was a real joy after Sweden: not only were they unbelievably low, there was also no need to document nearly anything unless you got audited (and I did: I volunteered an information that we had a bank account in Sweden and most likely some undereducated IRS agent interpreted it as a Swiss bank account and audited us),but even that was easy - I was so used from Europe to document all expenses, it turned out my expenses were in order, but I overlooked some deductions, not used to them, so we actually got an additional refund after that audit.

USA is easy. Actually, all north and central European countries, although more bureaucratic than USA, are less and a lot less bureaucratic than Spain... and former Spanish colonies. ( I forgot to mention I also lived in Costa Rica)

The biggest hassle with bureaucracy in US was to renew a driver's license in Georgia, where idiot local bureaucrats decided a couple of years ago to harass foreigners and enacted a law, that all foreigners had to renew their drivers licenses ANNUALLY and IN PERSON, forgetting that Georgia had not only agricultural immigrants from Mexico and Guatemala, but also higly skilled immigrants from Europe and Asia, like the majority of scientists at CDC ( Center for Disease Control), without whom many Americans would lose their jobs, so when we - and our employers protested, this antiimmigrant idiocy in Georgia became shortlived.

P.S. USA is not a country where any sane European would want to retire (unless he/she children and grandchildren living in the USA and wanted to stay close to them): US so called health "benefits" like Medicare or Medigap are both pitiful and outrageously expensive comparing with Europe and accesibility of good, inexpensive health care is usually important to retirees.


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