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surebought

Sep 15, 2011, 8:09 AM

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What's with the Peso?

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I'm probably the only one who has noticed something very peculiar. Even with all this mess in Washington with the budget, the Dollar is strengthening against all the major currencies in the last week and a half. I notice because I gain Dollars and spend Pesos. It kind of looks like the dollar is going to strengthen at least 10% against the Peso. This is not good for US job creation because it makes US goods more costly for export. Its a real conundrum.



chinagringo


Sep 15, 2011, 8:20 AM

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Good question but don't have an answer! On the other hand, it can be good for exports from Mexico.

I was reading an article in BUDGET TRAVEL yesterday about how some European travel is a better deal than in 2007. In the cost comparisons they provided, I was surprised that they were touting mid priced hotels in the $160 to $200 range and lunch for two at mid priced restaurants in the $116 to $150 range as being good deals! I will never again complain that hotels in Mexico seem to be high priced. And we won't even compare the cost of meals. The other one that got me was the cost of using the toilet (1.5 Euros) - a far cry from the $2 to $4MXN in the local banos!

Speaking of banos, I thought that the attached foto gives a great example of the creativity of the Mexican merchant setting up their stand right between the hombres and mujeres exits! Exit vending at best!
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Neil
Albuquerque, NM



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jrpierce


Sep 15, 2011, 11:02 AM

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Hi Neil,

Love the photo!

Surebought, with all the worries in other parts of the world, as bad as it is in Washington, US treasuries and dollars are still considered safe havens to run to when everything else seems too scary. So much for a downgraded S&P rating.

Jim


bfwpdx

Sep 15, 2011, 12:00 PM

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It's because it's so bad that the world is running to the safe haven of US dollar and treasuries. This is NOT an indication that everything in the US economy is okeydokey, it is indication of the opposite.


jrpierce


Sep 15, 2011, 1:28 PM

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I'm not sure I take your point about how a flight to safety in US backed securities is an indication of poor US economic health. For decades, in good times and bad, this was the case. Some worried the US downgrade would lead to pressure for another reserve currency for the world, but this has not happened so far.

Not that I'm saying all is good with the US economy--far from it--just that to many investors, it looks safer than much of the rest of the world.

Jim


joaquinx


Sep 15, 2011, 2:23 PM

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The dollar is doing better than the peso, the euro, the pound, etc. Not because the US economy is doing well, but because the other economies are worse. In comparison, the US economy is in good shape.
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DavidHF

Sep 15, 2011, 2:56 PM

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Currency valuations are about relative value and stability not the individual economies. The EuroZone has heap of banking trouble, read instability, and Europeans are buying US$ which pushes up the relative value of the US$.

As for a stronger US$ being bad for exports, that's a crock. The US imports way more that it exports and those imports just got cheaper. The US is hooked in imports to the point where no change in currency will significantly reduce the flow. The only thing that can help the trade imbalance is a stronger UD$. Go back 10 years and check the US$ vs. the Euro and you'll see that the Dollar was worth E1.10. Thanks to 2 unpaid for wars the US took on huge debt with no way to pay for it and the result has been the steady fall of the Dollar. The dollar is rising now on everyone elses bad news. This too shall pass.


YucaLandia


Sep 16, 2011, 9:30 PM

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In addition to David's good points:
  • US/NYMEX Oil futures and spot prices fell from $100-$110 down to between $80-$90 per barrel of light sweet crude in August, driving future Mexican oil revenue expectations lower.
  • France & Germany's changes (increases or decreases) in economic outputs (GDP) fell to roughly 0% in August's 2011 2'nd quarter reports, projecting flattened or lower demand for oil.
  • Greece and Greeks have refused to make substantive effective financial reforms and have basically refused to take sufficient austerity measures to halt their slide.
  • Recent reputable reports (especially this week) are saying that it is very likely that the Greek Government will soon default on all debts, bond repayments, and other financial obligations, unless the Germans bail them out again.
  • German Bankers have been hinting this week that it would be cheaper to allow Greece to go bankrupt & default on all obligations, than it would cost for Germany and France to continue to throw new money at the Greek's self-inflicted downward spiral.
  • If Greece defaults on all her financial obligations, it will leave key French banks holding-the-bag on huge amounts of debt - severely threatening the health of the French banking system and seriously damaging the already weak French economy (currently reported at 0% GDP growth).
  • As the Greek mess spirals downward, it drags down the Euro, and drags down the future ability of European economies to use oil - driving oil prices lower - putting more pressure on the MXN Peso.
  • If Greece defaults, the resulting waves may harm or even swamp shaky recoveries in Spain and Italy - and Euro-Bankers are saying lately they could not handle significant future downturns in Spain and Italy (because Greek bailouts have drained Euro reserves) - potentially threatening all of the Euro-zone economies - and suppressing current perceived Euro values - which again leverages against higher future oil prices.
  • The Japanese economy has also had significant reported weakness since their earthquake disaster, further reducing current and future predicted demand for oil, also suppressing oil prices - which again suppresses MXN Peso strength relative to the US dollar.
All of this drives down the confidence that the Mexican peso and Mexican economy will be strong in the near future, relative to the US Dollar strength.

This is not meant to be a thorough treatise on the USD/Peso exchange rate, but just a simple listing off-the-top-of-my-head of financial reports I've heard over the past 2 months. (The recent spate of US headline reports of especially horrific Narco-Traficante violence may also be playing a role in affecting the perceived stability of the MXN peso v. the USD???)
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YucaLandia


Sep 16, 2011, 10:15 PM

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Is anyone here willing to speculate on what effect(s) broad PRI wins in 2012 would do to both Mexican central bank policies and to future MXN peso values for the following few years? I'd also love to hear some opinions on how broad PRI wins in 2012 might affect ongoing Pemex output and net revenues.
steve
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Bennie García

Sep 22, 2011, 4:58 PM

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It is sometimes amusing to monitor posters who maintain blogs on Mexico and see how well their very freely offered opinions, apparently formed from vigorously perusing other online blogs, differ greatly from reality here.

The following quote dates from April 25 of this year:

"Reality seems to be saying that US Ex-pats who expected to live on US dollar-based “fixed incomes”, are actually looking at living on declining incomes for the next few years. "

"The US dollar will likely continue to slide versus the MXN peso, unless Bernanke, the US Treasury Dept, Obama, and Congress make serious course changes, to keep the US public debt from exceeding US GDP,"

Does anyone other than themselves actually take them seriously?


(This post was edited by Bennie García on Sep 22, 2011, 5:01 PM)
 
 
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