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norteño

Jun 19, 2011, 12:37 PM

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"bloody and increasingly barbaric civil insurgency"
A wordsmith if I ever read one. You must write for boarderline beat.

You would not call this barbaric, from today's news and happening on the south side of the Lake Chapala basin?

http://www.quadratin.com.mx/...os-en-la-Cienaga

MORELIA, Mich., 19 June 2011.-The bodies of fourteen murdered subjects were found this Sunday morning in different municipalities of the Lerma-Chapala Basin with their feet and hands tied and bearing signs threatening extortionists, thieves and rapists...

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richmx2

Jun 19, 2011, 3:14 PM

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"Civil insurgency" is how it is being perceived, and there's nothing wrong with the term (except when implying that the entire country is in the middle of one). I would prefer to call it "gangsterism run amok (with probably collusion of the United States and Mexican governments) exacerbated by a misguided and misnamed 'war' on some, but not all, drugs" that that's a mouthful. I don't like the word "insurgency" since it's usually a code word for justifying U.S. intervention (especially when it's said by people like Hillary Clinton) and tends to shift the calls for genuine social reform into sterile "anti-crime" activities (or limit reform to repression in the name of security).

That there are gangsters, and that they affect the lives of people in certain regions (especially in rural areas) isn't anything new, but to make sense of the statistics on violence against foreigners, again, we'd need meaningful comparisons. How does violence against foreigners in Juarez stack up against violence against foreigners in other crime-ridden cities best known among tourists for sex, drugs and "what's done here, stays here" behavior. How many foreigners have been killed in Juarez while not doing anything obviously illegal compared to, say, New Orleans or Las Vegas?

Norteno... of course you'd read little about the latest mayhem in the mainstream press... what do you think "Initiativa Mexicana" and the government-sponsored "media reforms" were all about other than restricting this sort of information?

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chinagringo

Jun 19, 2011, 4:08 PM

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Rich:

One thing that I have noticed with respect to US Citizens being killed in Juarez is that the NOB press appears to be biased towards sensationalizing the killings of "real US Citizens" as opposed to US Citizens of Mexican heritage. If there is any way to cast doubt about just what these Mexican-Americans were doing in Juarez, they will jump all over it and then drop the story. Now for a red blooded American, they will carry the story for as long as they can play it because after all, they would never have been down there doing anything wrong!

No matter what label is given to these gangsters, thugs, punks are whatever one wishes to call them, they are virtually free to do as they please. With the body count in Michoacan at 23, it certainly speaks towards the instability:

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/...execute-23-this.html

When John first posted this pile of BS, he placed it in the Lake Chapala section because that is his "center of Mexico universe". If one reads this article, you will note that a number of the killings were right across the Lake from Ajijic. And this article doesn't include two additional killings which happened near Mazamitla, a getaway spot from the Lake.
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM

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