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YucaLandia


May 30, 2011, 10:51 AM

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There are several open questions on the New Immigration law thread left unanswered from before the thread was locked. I think these questions can be answered by the new law, but I'd like to hear other people's translations & understandings:

1. Does "calidad migratoria de Inmigrante, dentro las características de rentista, inversionista, profesional, cargo de confianza, científico, técnico, familiar, artista y deportista o asimilados," equate to the old unpaid categories of "Inmigrante Rentista", "Inmigrante Familiar", "Inmigrante unpaid scientist" etc ?
Transitorio Section, Sexto: Item V: http://www.mexconnect.com/..._reply;so=ASC;mh=25; and Surviving Yucatan's updated article: http://yucalandia.wordpress.com/...-mexico-the-article/

If the translation is good, then unpaid Inmigrante (old non-working-FM2) categories, like all the ex-pat Inmigrante Rentistas, will be Temporary Residents under the new law. Do others here on Mexconnect see it the same way?

2. What about the current categories that have not been specifically identified in the law: working Inmigrantes.

Rather than doing the simple thing: saying which current categories (and sub categories) will be put under Temporary Resident and which will be under Permanent Resident, the new law goes about it in a backwards piece-meal way:

The law specifically calls out all the non-working categories of Inmigrante and says that they equate to Temporary Residence. .... The law specifically calls out the special categories of No Inmigrante that will equate to Temporary Residence. .... The law specifically calls out that all Inmigrado and some Non Inmigrantes will equate to Permanent Residence. ....

By remaining silent on working Inmigrantes (Residents), while describing all other types of Inmigrantes specifically as Temporary Residents, then legal precedents would indicate that this means that the non-mentioned working Inmigrantes by default are the only remaining open category of Permanent Residents. .... This would fit with a legal/legislative intention to create coherent categories where all the Temporary Residents have many qualities in common: owners of foreign plated vehicles, All the Folks Who Cannot Work for Pay: Rentistas , unpaid Artists, (unpaid?) Athletes (not sportsmen or hunters), special unpaid scientists (cientifico), etc etc.

Note: Under Immigration law, "cientifico" and other terms have special meanings - specifically "Ïnmigrante cientifico" is an unpaid scientist - a guy who works professionally in Mexico as an unpaid scientist , etc.

Going back to Question 2: By lumping all the non-paid candidates into Temporary Resident, then by default the paid folks legally get put into the only remaining Resident category: Residente Permanente ... an action consistent with several centuries of legal traditions. ???

These are not just esoteric musings, because all of the ex-pat "Inmigrantes" & "No Inmigrantes", who are currently applying or renewing with INM before the new law is applied, have the opportunity to change their status (or stay the same) to ultimately get the Permanent or Temporary Residency category that they desire under the new law.

Do these interpretations of the law fit other people's translations or readings?
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May 30, 2011, 12:32 PM

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2. What about the current categories that have not been specifically identified in the law: working Inmigrantes
The INM website lists exactly the same categories as given in the new law:
http://www.inm.gob.mx/.../Glosario_Inmigrante
I'm an Inmigrante Rentista and thus not familiar with aspects of the law that apply to working folks, but wouldn't profesional (for example) be a working designation?

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May 30, 2011, 12:56 PM

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Morgaine7,
I interpret the INM website to be using the current (old) terminologies of "Inmigrante", "No Inmigrante" and "Ïnmigrado" instead of the new "Residente Temporal"" and "Residente Permanente" terms, which seems to mean that this older webpage does not apply to the new rules.

As a current "Inmigrante Rentista", do you agree that your status will equate to Temporary Resident ("Residente Temporal") under the new law?

Regarding "Profesional": I'm officially a professional scientist in INM's lingo, working as an unpaid scientist for several University research groups, and I am categorized as "Inmigrante Cientifico" = working professional but not permitted to receive pay for my professional activities. (legal Govt. Spanish terminology vs. common translations).
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May 30, 2011, 2:43 PM

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The posting date on the INM page is 13 September 2010. So it does not reflect the new law.

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May 30, 2011, 2:51 PM

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1. Does "calidad migratoria de Inmigrante, dentro las características de rentista, inversionista, profesional, cargo de confianza, científico, técnico, familiar, artista y deportista o asimilados," equate to the old unpaid categories of "Inmigrante Rentista", "Inmigrante Familiar", "Inmigrante unpaid scientist" etc ?


Yes and no. IMHO the características do equate but One can be granted permission to work for pay in ANY of those categories/ características (INCLUDING rentista in specifically designed fields). I am not sure where you got the "UNPAID" part of the equation from

YucaLandia


May 30, 2011, 4:22 PM

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1. Does "calidad migratoria de Inmigrante, dentro las características de rentista, inversionista, profesional, cargo de confianza, científico, técnico, familiar, artista y deportista o asimilados," equate to the old unpaid categories of "Inmigrante Rentista", "Inmigrante Familiar", "Inmigrante unpaid scientist" etc ?

Yes and no. IMHO the características do equate but One can be granted permission to work for pay in ANY of those categories/ características (INCLUDING rentista in specifically designed fields). I am not sure where you got the "UNPAID" part of the equation from

At least some of the sub-categories of Inmigrante are not allowed to work for pay. I have read INM's internal manual's pages on the "Inmigrante Cientifico" requirements, and it clearly requires that I work without remuneration, even though INM's webpages do not list this. INM's official definition of "Inmigrante Rentista" also requires that their resources & income come from abroad = no paid work allowed within Mexico.

I got the "UNPAID" part of the equation" directly from INM's official manual, and from an English speaking INM agent, and from the INM website. Two written references from Mex. Gob. INM publications and oral instructions seem reliable.

http://www.inm.gob.mx/.../Glosario_Inmigrante

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May 30, 2011, 4:24 PM

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One can be granted permission to work for pay in ANY of those categories/ características (INCLUDING rentista in specifically designed fields). I am not sure where you got the "UNPAID" part of the equation from
Yes, exactly. I also wasn't seeing specific "paid" or "unpaid" designations. In fact, when I went through the process starting here:
http://www.inm.gob.mx/index.php/page/Tramites
of saying that I wanted to live here permanently and work, it took me to the the relevant categories of Inmigrante (Inversionista, Profesionista, Cargo de Confianza, Cientifico, or Técnico).

Rolly and Yucalandia: I didn't mean to imply that the website reflects the new law. My point was that the "old"/current Inmigrante categories are identical to those listed in the new law (Transitorio Section, Sexto: Item V). The original post implied that there were other "non-working" categories that did not appear. Sorry for the confusion.

Kate

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May 30, 2011, 4:28 PM

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As a current "Inmigrante Rentista", do you agree that your status will equate to Temporary Resident ("Residente Temporal") under the new law?
It looks that way, but why does it matter? Inmigrantes aren't permanent residents under the old law, either. The only change that I can see for me is that I may be able to apply for permanent residence status sooner, which is a good thing. Smile

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May 30, 2011, 4:53 PM

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As a current "Inmigrante Rentista", do you agree that your status will equate to Temporary Resident ("Residente Temporal") under the new law?
It looks that way, but why does it matter? Inmigrantes aren't permanent residents under the old law, either. The only change that I can see for me is that I may be able to apply for permanent residence status sooner, which is a good thing. Smile

Kate
The fun in all this is that some types of Inmigrantes** do appear to equate to Permanent Residents, which means no more annual application dance or fees for some of us. Wooo Hoooo!
steve

**Alan in Merida reads Article 154, Item III of the new law to say that Inmigrante retirees and pensioners qualify to apply for Permanent Residency status (?). = yet another reason that I persist with this thread. Contributions from various corners of the web are sharpening-up our understandings.

Only 175 days left until the INM is supposed to issue implementing regulations...
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May 30, 2011, 9:46 PM

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At least some of the sub-categories of Inmigrante are not allowed to work for pay. I have read INM's internal manual's pages on the "Inmigrante Cientifico" requirements, and it clearly requires that I work without remuneration, even though INM's webpages do not list this. INM's official definition of "Inmigrante Rentista" also requires that their resources & income come from abroad = no paid work allowed within Mexico.


You are right that it does not say anywhere on any INM page or in any law (either the current Ley de la poblacion or the reglamento de la ley de la poblacion) the one cannot receive payment while working as a ”cientifico”.


I was denied a work permit by INM until I showed them the law applicable to my case, at which time my local INM delegation said they would consult Mexico City, which they said they did and they came back and said that I was right and gave me the status that I had solicited.



On the very link you provided there is a definition of Rentista. The last sentence says:
“La Secretaría de Gobernación podrá autorizar a los rentistas para que presten servicios como profesores, científicos, investigadores científicos o técnicos, cuando estime que dichas actividades resulten benéficas para el país.”


Or in english


“The Ministry of the Interior may authorize Rentista to provide services as teachers, scientists, researchers, scientists or technicians, if it considers that such activities are beneficial to the country.”

YucaLandia


May 31, 2011, 7:16 AM

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"“The Ministry of the Interior may authorize Rentista to provide services as professors, scientists, technical or scientific researchers, or technicians, if it considers that such activities are beneficial to the country.”

The added emphases are my additions to identify the actual and INM's meanings in English vs. internet translator versions. e.g. Few teachers are professors, a distinction that narrows the field. I wouldn't want an elementary school teacher moving here with the expectation of getting Residency status approved based on a mis-reading of the law & regs.

Current Status of this option: This is correct, and as I reported above, INM has decided that they will allow some Inmigrante Cientifico's to work, but that INM further decided that at least one category of these workers are not allowed to receive pay, as described in writing in INM's internal instructions manual.

For people considering the Cientifico option: As an Inmigrante Cientifico, I get my annual Inmigrante renewals for free, but just like in other INM categories, INM has additional official written requirements that are not posted on the public websites. e.g. I must also provide letters from 3 Mexican citizens in scientific organizations that I am providing scientific services to their groups, along with copies of their IFE cards. I do projects for a local University, so I was able to get reference letters from 3 jefes. You also need apostilled official copies of your University and graduate degrees to apply for this option.

Are there professors or researchers out there who have been given special Inmigrante status to work here, and did INM attach any stipulations to your Inmigrante visa?
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May 31, 2011, 7:55 AM

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Perhaps MHO should have been one MAY (instead of can) be granted permission to work under any of those categories/ características. (INCLUDING rentista in specifically designed fields)

I do not doubt that you were not given permission to work for remuneration as a scientist. I had a similar situation until I pushed the issue and INM “checked” with Mexico City. I do doubt however that there are NO paid inmigrante scientists working in Mexico. I realize that often times INM officials do whatever they want (hell they even run a child prostitution ring on the southern border.)
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but just like in other INM categories, INM has additional official written requirements that are not posted on the public websites. e.g. I must also provide letters from 3 Mexican citizens in scientific organizations that I am providing scientific services to their groups, along with copies of their IFE cards. I do projects for a local University, so I was able to get reference letters from 3 jefes. You also need apostilled official copies of your University and graduate degrees to apply for this option.

Actually the examples you listed as “official written requirements that are not posted on the public websites” are part of Article 184 of the Regalmento de la Ley de La poblacion, which is readily available on line.

Artículo 184.- CIENTÍFICO.- Para los inmigrantes a que se refiere la fracción V del artículo 48 de la
Ley, se observará lo siguiente:
I. Deberán comprobar capacidad suficiente en la actividad científica que pretenden desempeñar;
II. Cuando la Secretaría lo juzgue conveniente, el científico comprobará el cumplimiento de la obligación de instruir en su especialidad, cuando menos a tres mexicanos, y
III. Para conceder el refrendo anual, deberá exhibirse una constancia de la empresa o institución pública o privada para quien el extranjero preste su servicio, en la que se acredite ante la Secretaría que subsisten las condiciones bajo las cuales se otorgó la autorización de su característica migratoria.

It is not unusual for stipulations to be attached to a work visa.

YucaLandia


May 31, 2011, 12:29 PM

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Good News.

I went to our INM Merida office to work on my April 15 application, and here's what I found:
1. They are as helpful and friendly as always.**
2. The Inmigrante Cientifico path (my current application) would not quickly lead to Permanent Residency or Citizenship.
3. An Inmigrante Familiar path would lead to Permanent Residency or Citizenship in just one year (including a past year with an FM2 Familiar).
4. They were willing to let me abandon my Inmigrante Cientifico path, and instead take the Inmigrante Familiar path.
5. On-the-spot, they allowed me to make a hand-written letter (dictated by them) to abandon my Inmigrante Cientifico path, and handed me the form for the bank to pay $2,801 pesos for the Inmigrante Familiar vs. a free/gratis Cientifico visa, and allowed me at 12:15 to run to the bank, and return to complete that day's process before 1:00 pm closing.
6. They will assign a final appointment for me next week, and if I bring my fotos (Infantil: 3 x frente & 2 x perfile derecho), I should be done for the year.

This confirmed my suspicion that people who have applications that were filed before May 26 may be able to change their status and change their applications, now, to get into paths that lead to the status you want under the new law. They explained that while the Inmigrante Cientifico is free/gratis (now), that they thought it would be ultimately cheaper to pay for the Inmigrante Familiar now than to pay fees in multiple future years.

My apologies to anyone who thought that this past week's efforts to define what's real and what's possible with INM, were posting esoterica or hypothetical musings. It turns out that there was a non-obvious path available now that cuts 2 extra years out of my future INM processes, but I had to make changes and take the right actions now.

Said another way: I have a dog in this fight, and it seems my dog had his day, today,
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**Yucatecans are often thought-of and treated-as country bumpkins, but compared to places where people are more formal or surly, our very good manners, pleasant dispositions, and smiling gentle natures really do make life better here.
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Jun 3, 2011, 9:13 AM

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From today's issue of INFORMADOR:

"The religious defense of the rights of migrants emphasizes that the rule is a product of the efforts of NGOs "Migration to report on missing

GUADALAJARA, JALISCO (03/JUN/2011) .- At 10 days after President Felipe Calderon enacted the Migration Act, yet nothing changes. That was the conclusion of a visit to Guadalajara diocesan priest and champion of the rights of migrants, Solalinde Alejandro Guerra.

"There is great distance between law and politics of migration. The law exists but has no rules, no application, no funding, no preparation is who is going to apply. And most importantly: there is no policy. "

Solalinde warns that failure to purify the new legislation on issues relating to security and operations against illegal immigrants, will be similar to the B-1070 in Arizona........................................"
Disclaimer: This is a GOOGLE translation and it's accuracy cannot be guaranteed.

Full Article in Spanish:
http://www.informador.com.mx/...atoria-solalinde.htm
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YucaLandia


Jun 5, 2011, 1:22 PM

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Perhaps MHO should have been one MAY (instead of can) be granted permission to work under any of those categories/ características. (INCLUDING rentista in specifically designed fields)

I do not doubt that you were not given permission to work for remuneration as a scientist. I had a similar situation until I pushed the issue and INM “checked” with Mexico City. I do doubt however that there are NO paid inmigrante scientists working in Mexico. I realize that often times INM officials do whatever they want (hell they even run a child prostitution ring on the southern border.)
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Actually the examples you listed as “official written requirements that are not posted on the public websites” are part of Article 184 of the Regalmento de la Ley de La poblacion, which is readily available on line.

Artículo 184.- CIENTÍFICO.- Para los inmigrantes a que se refiere la fracción V del artículo 48 de la
Ley, se observará lo siguiente:
I. Deberán comprobar capacidad suficiente en la actividad científica que pretenden desempeñar;
II. Cuando la Secretaría lo juzgue conveniente, el científico comprobará el cumplimiento de la obligación de instruir en su especialidad, cuando menos a tres mexicanos, y
III. Para conceder el refrendo anual, deberá exhibirse una constancia de la empresa o institución pública o privada para quien el extranjero preste su servicio, en la que se acredite ante la Secretaría que subsisten las condiciones bajo las cuales se otorgó la autorización de su característica migratoria.

It is not unusual for stipulations to be attached to a work visa.

Casa,
Your reply describing special stipulations on individual "work visas" incorrectly makes it sound like the Inmigrante cientifico no lucrativo doesn't exist as a broad nationwide option for qualified scientists who wish to get their FM2 for free.

From the Mex. Gob. official website on this matter:
As of November 18, 2010 La LEY Federal de Derechos (Artitículo 9º de la LFD), the last line of Article 9 says:
” Por el cambio de característica migratoria dentro de la calidad de inmigrante, se pagarán los derechos que
correspondan a la nueva característica a adquirir. No pagarán los derechos a que se refiere este artículo, los
científicos en actividades no lucrativas. “

This article identifies 3 items: the free/gratis Inmigrante/FM2 status for unpaid scientist, the formal legal status of Inmigrantes cientificos no lucrativos, and as no lucrativos they are not allowed to work for pay. It is official INM policy and not just some stipulation on an individual work visa.

Will these requirements survive the writing and implementation of INM's new Regulaciones? Lo no se.
http://portal3.sre.gob.mx/...rechos_corregido.pdf &
http://www.inm.gob.mx/index.php/page/D_S_M_O
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Jun 11, 2011, 11:03 AM

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This thread is way too fragmented to understand all of it. The OP refers to the new immigration law but some of the repsonses reference current law.

Anyway, I think Yucca is retired.

Yucca, section IX "Residente Permanente" of LEY DE MIGRACION from DOF: 25/05/2011 (thank you Casa!!) cleary and unequivocally gives retired people the right to work. So, what is the problem? Are you just curious about CIENTIFICO or did I miss something?
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YucaLandia


Jun 11, 2011, 4:01 PM

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eyePad,
Due to the timing of my INM application, I had the option of staying with an existing Inmigrante Cientifico or shifting to Inmigrante Familiar. Our best reading of the new law, and the advice of our local INM office was that the Inmigrante Cientifico will convert into a Temporaral no lucrativo position and that Inmigrante Familiar will convert into Permanente status, with eligibility for citizenship next year (qualifying with just 2 years of Inmigrante Familiar/Permanente status).

I followed our INM office's guidance, and abandoned the Inmigrante Cientifico application to get Permanente or Citizenship status more quickly. INM said I had to make the decision last week, so, I was attempting to get the best information to make the best choice.
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Jun 11, 2011, 4:35 PM

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eyePad,
Due to the timing of my INM application, I had the option of staying with an existing Inmigrante Cientifico or shifting to Inmigrante Familiar. Our best reading of the new law, and the advice of our local INM office was that the Inmigrante Cientifico will convert into a Temporaral no lucrativo position and that Inmigrante Familiar will convert into Permanente status, with eligibility for citizenship next year (qualifying with just 2 years of Inmigrante Familiar/Permanente status).

Steve, where are you reading your FM-2 Familiar converts into a Residente Permanente? This is what Transitorios Sexto says:

V. Los extranjeros que hayan obtenido la calidad migratoria de Inmigrante, dentro las características de rentista, inversionista, profesional, cargo de confianza, científico, técnico, familiar, artista y deportista o asimilados, se equipararán al Residente temporal, y
VI. Los extranjeros que hayan obtenido la calidad migratoria de inmigrado, se equipararán al Residente permanente

Simple Google Translation:
V. Foreigners who have obtained the immigration status of immigrant (Inmigrante) within the characteristics of rentier, investor, professional, responsible for trust, scientist, technician, familiar, artist and sportsman or similar, is deemed the temporary resident, and
VI. Foreigners who have obtained the immigration status of immigrated (Inmigrado), is deemed to permanent resident


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OK, I get it. The concern is about accumulating 2 years for citizenship purposes. I understand that. That makes sense.

I just glanced at what Ric had quoted and TRANSITORIOS I believe are "transition" policies. It does appear that unless you are inmigrado, you are going to be residente temporal. That doesn't make ANY sense since some of those categoreis are CLEARLY going to qualify for residente permanente. I would like to believe your local INM people because that actually is in harmony with the ley, not the notes at the end of the ley "transitorios"
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That is the whole point of having the transitorios section. It lists the transition from current law to the new law. It defines by today's categories the transition into the new categories. The law defining those relationships does not affect the initial starting point as prescribed in the transitorios section. The transitorios section is a part of the new law.


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eyePad

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Ric, I understand. Very good point. The big piece to this is SRE. La Ley de Migracion is INM. If SRE harmonize logically Yuca will be OK.
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I find this confusing. So I am applying for my first fm3 will the new law speed up my chances for permanent residence. It would be nice so I would not have to go through hoops every year

Tony

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Don't worry about jumping through those hoops. It is really no big deal most of the time. Just a few hours, once a year. However it will be nice if the path to permanent residency was shorter. As well as the pah to Mexican citizenship for those who are interested.

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Ric,
I mis-spoke: INM pointed out that I could qualify for citizenship with 2 years as Inmigrante Familiar (FM2) and/or that I could also qualify for Residente Permanente as Inmigrante Rentista under
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"Artículo 54. Se otorgará la condición de residente permanente al extranjero que se ubique en cualquiera de los siguientes supuestos: ...
III. Que sean jubilados o pensionados que perciban de un gobierno extranjero o de organismos internacionales o de empresas particulares por servicios prestados en el exterior, un ingreso que les permita vivir en el país;"
Google Tranlation:

"Article 54. Be granted permanent resident status abroad to be located in any of the following cases: ...

III. Who are retirees or pensioners who are entitled to a foreign government or international agencies or private companies for services rendered abroad, an income that allows them to live in the country; "
Which seems to mean that as a retired Inmigrante with sufficient income from outside Mexico, I would also qualify for Permanent Residency under the new law, regardless of the Transitorios. Inmigrante Scientifico (no lucrativo) clearly does not meet either qualification for Residente Permanente o Ciudadano.
The seeming internal conflict between the generic Transitorios and the specifics of the main body of the new law will likely need to be worked out in the Regulacion.

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Re: [tonynico] Open Questions on the New Immigration Law

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Tony, under the NEW law, if you are retired with sufficient income, you can go directly to permanent resident.
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