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bournemouth

Mar 6, 2011, 9:51 AM

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From the NY Times weekend magazine:

http://www.nytimes.com/...ives-t.html?emc=eta1


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jseaman

Mar 6, 2011, 10:15 AM

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Thank you for calling our attention to that article! Everyone should read the comments made about the article as well. So true.


joaquinx


Mar 6, 2011, 10:45 AM

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Great story! Thanks for sharing.
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My desire to be well-informed is currently at odds with my desire to remain sane.


Anonimo

Mar 6, 2011, 10:47 AM

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Thank you. That article went right to my heart—and my tear ducts.

Saludos,
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robt65

Mar 6, 2011, 11:14 AM

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Hi bournemouth,

Thanks for that story, and your right, don't miss all the comments . . . . . . all of them. I would venture to say it is the people that are one of the main reasons a lot of us come and immigrate to Mexico. I am very fortunate to have married into a Mexican family. I have no more of my own family at all and they are my family. Every day I am constantly reminded solely by living with and watching them as to how fortunate indeed I am. I am so proud and humbled to be totally included in all of life's daily things with my family. My wife, my mother -in-law, father-in-law and yes, even our older daughter teach me about life's really important things every day. I am so blessed and very thankful for meeting my wife and her family some few years ago. Thank you Jimena, Angela, Ana Sofia and Andres.

Many times I feel like "Scrooge" in the movie, tripping in my mind through my past life. Many times it makes me reflect about some of my not so proud moments in my "before life". Not that I was a bad person, I wasn't really. I always made my donations to the local organizations and schools. I was always sponsoring one group activity or another. I still was doing these things out of "duty" and not for just being a better human being. I never have been a bigot or a racist and I am grateful for my parents bringing me up in that kind of world. I hope I am learning, at a much older age, to be a much more giving person, not so much of money or material things, but more importantly of self and time. It is such a better felling and now I know what it feels like to be truly giving when I can. But not only giving . . . but more so, learning how to receive. That was really a tough one for me. I am still learning that. So thank you, all you good folks and my neighbors from Mexico, for not only sharing your really wonderful country with me but also for the education in life you have allowed me to learn.

So thank you bournemouth, for sharing this story today with us. I needed a little pick-me-up, this morning. I really am one very grateful fellow. Your timing was great.

robt65


Gringal

Mar 6, 2011, 11:55 AM

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I loved that story, and yours as well.

Not many months ago, a friend and her lady friend went off on a trip, and OMG, they were out in the middle of nowhere in Mexico when her new used car had a serious breakdown. Dark, scary and the one good thing was that my friend speaks Spanish well. Her friend was a recent expat, and terrified. Along came a van, the man stopped to help and then proceeded to go to the nearest town, get a tow truck out there and take the two ladies into town to a guest house. Wouldn't accept payment for his trouble. The world has it's miseries, especially right now..........but there are lots of good people still here. We probably all have some positive stories to tell.


robt65

Mar 6, 2011, 2:00 PM

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Thank you Gringal,

I think that bournemouth started a post, that I hope gets many such stories, because I really believe that is one of the big reasons that many of us are in Mexico today. I also hope that many other persons will also share their stories to bournmouths post as you have. We all may come for many different reasons and then we really get to meet and know the Mexican people. I think it is the people that make a country.

I miss all these nice threads that used to be prevalent on this MexConnect. I hope we can get back to them more. Thanks for sharing your story.

robt65


geri

Mar 7, 2011, 7:20 AM

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I gotta chime in here. We all move here initially for many reasons, but I think the reason some of us stay is because of the caring people who make up this culture of helping and giving,. I get a lot of flack when I say, "It's not about the money." Money sets up a barrier, creates a YOU and US wall. I love the Mexican's response in Bournemouth's story. "Today you, tomorrow me." We are all people and the farther you get from the tourist zones (where it IS about the money) the more often you'll find people who won't take money for a favor. I believe in some instances, it's an insult to insist on paying...you are building the wall....creating, or at least maintaining, an economic division that's man made.

I am particularly amazed by the help I get from young people, teenagers and young adults. They stop their car in the middle of the street and pick me up off the sidewalk when I stumble and fall. One time, there was a scuttle at a stop light between some rude tourists who shouted a bad word at a Mexican motorcyclist. I stood aside, not wanting to enter the fray. A young boy about 12 or 13 said "Come with me. I protect you." And we walked across the street together.

Another time, a young Mexican neighbor insisted on going with me to the bus terminal, helping me with my luggage and when I wanted to pay, he said he did it as a friend. The strong expression on his face made me not push the money into his hand. In retrospect, I think that I would have been maintaining the artificial, economic wall: me rich, him poor. Even though that wall is real, I wonder how often WE maintain it instead of taking the attitude: Today you, tomorrow me.

When I first moved to Oaxaca City, I'd take city buses to the end of the line and then ride back, in order to learn the bus routes. One day on the return trip, an Indigenous old lady insisted I get off the bus with her. So I did, not knowing why. She led me across the street and rang the bell on a nice looking house. Turns out, she thought I was lost, in trouble, and she knew that English speaking people lived in that house and would help me.

Well, I could go on and on, but I won't. I hope this thread continues a bit longer.
geri


Oscar2

Mar 8, 2011, 10:19 AM

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Robt65 and Bournemouth,

I haven’t written in a while but the story Bournemouth provided is the kind of stuff which draws, pulls and rekindles life’s cherished and sometimes unforgettable moments who’s good in times such as these needs sharing.


Two years or so ago while renting a very nice house in a small Colonia called Chapalita in a part of Guad, the built in older stove had several gas pilot lights which burnt 24/7 and would ultimately give us pounding headaches. While I was at Wal-Mart, a very nice stove with electronic ignition was on a close-out sale, so I bought it and put it on layaway until I cleared it with the landlady. In a way she was shocked that I would make such an offer but since I still had two weeks to stay and we really liked this gorgeous house, she in turn opted to pay half and it became a done deal.


The next day there was a knock on the door and a light complexioned, slight looking dignified man announced he had a stove for delivery. I informed him that the old stove had to be removed and hauled away first and he said no problema senior. After disassembling the built in stove, and pulled away from the wall, unfortunately, there was a concrete slab extending about six inches from the wall and about 8 inches high from the floor, running the width of the stove. I instantly thought the stove I bought would have to go back but instead this slight looking man looked at me and his lips sporting a jet black thin mustache said “no problema senior, I come back in the morning and fix it.


Bright and early he was at the door and of course due to the size of the substantial concrete buttress preventing the stove installation, I thought maybe he’d be bringing some kind of jack hammer or something like a heavy duty sludge hammer of sorts but boy was I wrong. He looked at me with a gleam in his eye, a quick smile of confidence and both hands held up a small chisel and a hammer.



I secretly thought to myself, my God, this poor guy will be here all day, so I commented that perhaps he would do well with a sludge hammer and/or the like and he just gave me that mustachioed smile and again said no worry senior, I fix it. The hammering resounded throughout the house so the wife and I decided to go out and come back later that afternoon. It was getting late, and as we walked into the kitchen one could see that the slight looking Mexican man was disheveled and tired from working all day and quite honestly in empathy my heart went out to him and his spirit.


He looked bothered and his eyes reflected a sort of disappointment one can’t escape, such as running a race to the point of exhaustion and then falling short of your mark right at the finish. Chisel and hammer in hand he looked at me and said senior, I’m sorry, I couldn’t make the stove fit right. I looked at the space worked on and could see only a few bumps of concrete which needed smoothing out and it would have been a done deal. So I told him, let me pay you for what you did today and you can finish it in the morning. He looked at me with some kind of hurt and resolve in his proud strong eyes and with hands raised, as if saying no, he said, no senior, no gracias, I didn’t fix it, you don’t pay me.. My throat lumped, I choked and insisted he take the money but instead he grabbed and shook my hand, and walked out the door, never to be seen again, except in special moments such as these where memories of true grit, good and “well needed” stories such as these are always welcomed here in the house where I live.


ms mac

Mar 8, 2011, 11:12 AM

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What a moving article, Bournemouth. Thanks for sharing!
ms mac


robt65

Mar 8, 2011, 5:02 PM

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Again I thank bournmouth for starting this thread. Now I come for my daily "lift". I know there are a million such stories out there like this. How do I know this? . . . . . . because it is the manta of the proud and yet at the same time, very humble Mexican National. I am so happy that I have been blessed with the opportunity to see such manner of humanity in my life. I hope people keep sharing such stories for us.

robt65


conan the librarian


Mar 9, 2011, 11:15 AM

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   Great thread. I have been lucky enough to run into similar kinds of hospitality in my time in Mexico. (Enough so, that my wife and I are "collecting" these incidents, and may someday have a blog dedicated to "Only in Mexico".)

One story: We were about 30 miles south of the Nuevo Laredo border headed north when the bracket for my muffler gave way. I pulled as far onto the shoulder as I could (no more than a couple of feet) and with traffic whizzing by inches from me, in 90+ degree heat, managed to cobble together a repair with a coat hanger and a pair of needle-nose pliers. At the time, I just hoped it would get us across the border.

At the next inspection checkpoint, the soldier indicated we need to pull to the side for a complete inspection. I was frustrated from my muffler problem, and in no mood for further delays, so I blurted out something to the effect of "what a day it's turning into ... my muffler almost fell off a few miles down the road and now you want to inspect our van ...", etc.

The soldier didn't even hesitate, he just pointed me over to one of the bays where they inspect the underside of your car for drugs, etc. But when I pulled the van over there, he and a couple of his fellow soldiers got to work re-wiring the muffler. After a bit of discussion about the best way to do it, and maybe 10 minutes and one more coat hanger later, they told me I was good to go.

I offered the fellow who seemed to be the superior officer (he was the only guy who looked to be over 18 years old) $200 pesos for their time and he refused, saying they weren't allowed to take money. I just told him to please take it and buy some "refrescos" for the rest of the guys. He smiled at that idea and discretely pocketed the bill.

They never did inspect the van. :-) The repair got us all the way home (near Austin), and when I took the van to the muffler shop, the "mechanic" who looked like he had just woke up from a week-long bender took over 30 minutes to undo the "temporary" fix, cussing the whole time. I just smiled and thought of the Mexican military.


Chuck


DosViajeros

Mar 9, 2011, 12:53 PM

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What a great article - and thank you for posting it, Bournemouth! Last May my companion and our Sheltie and I drove from Phoenix to Lake Chapala and back. Our first day out, just before Hermosillo, we heard a horrific clanking sound whenever braking. By the time we arrived in Guaymas it was clanking non-stop. Exhausted (yes, we're old!) we stopped at a motel and crashed for the night. The next morning we asked the motel clerk about a brake repair shop. He not only found one in the directory, but he called and talked to the owner who had just opened up shop. He gave us directions and (miraculously because of the narrow, winding, name-changing streets) we pulled right up to the garage. The owner ushered us in and his mechanics immediately hoisted the car on hydraulic lifts and took off the wheels. We all looked to see what was wrong. (We know nothing about vehicles!) But it was obvious that something was missing. The mechanic found the right part, installed it, replaced the wheels, lowered the lifts, and the owner sent us on our way. When we asked ¿Quánto le debemos, señor? He shrugged his shoulders, said "Nada, señores. Es grátis. ¡Bienvenidos en México y buen viaje!"

Needless to say, we were floored at this unexpected demonstration of immediate help and generosity. We also sadly thought that something like this would never, ever happen in the US. So, what started out as a stress-filled, long, first day turned into a harbinger of a beautiful and memorable road trip to Ajijic and back that went without any other problems at all. Everywhere we went on that trip we were met with polite help, kindness, and generosity. After returning home, we tracked down the name of the owner and shop, and sent a 'thank-you' card with some pesos enclosed, asking the owner to take his staff out for lunch on us, two very grateful old gringos and our old dog. How can you not love Mexico??!!
Neil, Dan, and Pequeño


BobC

Mar 9, 2011, 4:11 PM

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We are Canadians who were driving across the US a couple of years ago. We had stayed the night in Sioux City, South Dakota and had just started out on the Interstate heading west when two deer darted out in front of us. I managed to steer around the first one, but the road was reduced to two lanes by construction so I couldn't swing any farther to the left without hitting oncoming traffic.

So, unfortunately, I hit the second deer--presumably a yearling who was still with its mother.

It made quite a mess of the car, but it was still driveable so we turned around and limped back a mile or so to a restaurant near the highway from which we were able to call the Highway Patrol. The patrolman came quite quickly and completed his report. We knew that the one headlight was destroyed and that the hood was so bent that it wouldn't open and he agreed with us that we should get the car checked out to make sure it was safe and said he would lead us to the local Chev dealer, which he did and then headed out to find the deer to make sure it wasn't suffering.

The Chev dealer checked the car over thoroughly, cleaned up the bits and pieces and hammered out the hood enough that it would open again. All that took about an hour.

When we went to pay, they said "It's bad enough that you should hit a deer in our state! We won't add insult to injury by charging you for cleaning it up! Have a nice trip!"

So, it did happen at least once in the US!

Bob


DosViajeros

Mar 9, 2011, 4:52 PM

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Thanks, Bob! Reading stories like this help to restore your faith in humankindness - even when it's been sorely tested. Thanks for your travel tale - it is certainly good to know that some Americans have a heart!
-Neil


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Mar 9, 2011, 6:14 PM

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This story has certainly been making the rounds on various forums and certainly provides a "feel good" moment about the Mexican way! I have no intention of raining on the parade but since it made me stop and think: "would I be inclined to reciprocate in kind when driving down the highways of Mexico?" We Gringos coming from life in the "fast lane and schedules" may have a tendency to feel that what is already on our plates to stop and extend the same courtesies. I can admit to saying that I have to get somewhere and that someone else will stop if I don't but obviously that doesn't tend to be the Mexican way! I don't know about the rest of you but this story has made me stop and look in the mirror and realize that I needed to re-evaluate my tendencies and revise them!
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



robt65

Mar 9, 2011, 7:33 PM

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Leaving the autopista turnoff at San Miguel headed to San Luis Potasi and north to Texas towing my 30 foot travel trailer, I spotted a family with an older car and mechanical problems on the curve entry. I stropped, looking at those kids and the family, I had to, after driving a ways up front slowly and looking them over. I thought of Jimena and the girls and what if they were out there in than same position? I walked back and offered to drive them to San Luis but they said they knew what the problem was but didn't have the $700 pesos to buy it. They thought they could make it back to Monterrey. They had been there for over an hour trying to get the money from folks that stopped. No luck. I said wait a minute and walked back to my truck and dug out enough for them to buy the part and some I told him some day he can do the same for some one else. I had a real good feeling as I drove away. It is good for the heart medicine and soul.

I know it is not the smartest thing to do especially around the area leading to San Luis Potasi these days, but I just couldn't drive on with that family especially the kids in the car. Maybe someday that will be my black bean . . . . . . who knows . . . . . somehow, I think not.

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cbviajero

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I drive a pickup and keep a tow rope in it,on three occasions I was able to pull out cars that had gotten stuck,one at the beach one next to a pineapple field and one outside of Mazamitla,the owners always asked how much they owed me,I always reply ,arierros somos y en el camino andamos,although I did accept some pineapples.
Regards
Chris


Schap

Mar 13, 2011, 6:57 PM

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I just put "arierros somos y en el camino andamos"
in the translator and this is what came up:
"arierros we are and in the way we are" Can you explain what the translation is, please?


ken_in_dfw

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I had to look it up too. "Arierros" is misspelled; it's supposed to be "arrieros," which means muleteers. It literally means, "We are muleteers and we go down the road."

But it's really an expression or idiom. Functionally, it means, "what goes around comes around," or "you'll get your chance later."

BTW, if you want to get better at these expressions that fuel modern Spanish language conversations, you should check out "The Red-Hot Book of Spanish Slang and Idioms," by Mary McVey Gill and Brenda Wegmann, McGraw-Hill, copyright 2007. I have found it to be a very handy little book.


Schap

Mar 13, 2011, 8:19 PM

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Thanks, Ken, for clearing up the phrase. Could be useful here.


mazbook1


Mar 14, 2011, 6:18 PM

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And if you want to really be up on Mexican Spanish idioms (modismos) you should get the books Speaking Spanish Like a Native and Speaking Spanish Like a Native: the Sequel by Brad Kim and his wife Erika Domínguez (Golden Zone Publications).

Both books are available from Amazon.com, or in México from Mazatlán Book & Coffee Company (Editorial Mazatlán).

http://mazatlanbook.com/

http://www.amazon.com/...300151633&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Speaking-Spanish-Like-Native-Sequel/dp/0976451816/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1300151633&sr=8-2


They are really the very best books of all for Mexican Spanish idiomatic speech.


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