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SanFranDan

Dec 25, 2010, 11:36 PM

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How many times where you stopped?

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During your drive down from CA, TX, or AZ this year, how many times where you stopped either by Military, Federal, State, or Municipal police? Where where the checkpoints?

What did they check (Import Permit, Drivers License, interior/ Exterior of Car, Visa Status).

Anyone get caught without a car permit/ Visa? What happened?

I'd like to hear the stories of the people who drove down the mainland this year!



texican

Dec 26, 2010, 5:26 AM

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I crossed the border at 2:30 on the 23rd and went and got my vehicle permit, it took about 30 minutes and the people there were very helpful, crossed back across and spent the night. I crossed at 6:30 on the 24th and made it to the check point where I got the red light, pulled into the check lane along with about 30 other cars. As I waited a official came walking by on the way to his line, I asked him in broken spanish if he would check my vehicle, so I could leave and he said he would. He peered into my jeep smiled and so to proceed on. I took the route around Monterrey through Zacatacas and on to GDL. I stopped and filled up every time I got to half a tank of gas in cases there were long distances without gas stations. I stopped in Zacatacas for a short lunch and then on to GDL. I arrived in GDL at 7 pm. I did not get stopped or have any problems at all and never saw anything that made me feel uneasy about the trip.


S & C

Dec 26, 2010, 7:01 AM

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When I took the gulf coast route I was stopped as I crossed into each state but only once in 4 years did i ever get a small search.
This year I took the Laredo the Saltillo to San Luis Potosi to the new arco norte Mex city bypass, then on to Puebla, Cordoba, Acayucan, Villahermosa, Escarcega, Chetumal and then on to Tulum. I went through only one check point as I entered Q Roo state and they only asked if I had food.
The other day I went to the Cancun airport to pick my daughter up and was stopped by Federal Police as I pulled into the parking lot. They checked my car sticker and asked for my passport but I only had copies of it and my FM3 and they went on their way.
Stan


stevebrtx

Dec 26, 2010, 1:48 PM

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Coming S from Laredo #2 on Nov 2nd I was stopped at the 20 mile check point, asked for my FM3, got a red light, he peeked in the back, couldn't have seen anything, it was 5:30am and I have tinted windows, he said "go", a Federale flashed a light on my import sticker and waved me on.

However, about 2 weeks ago I was stopped coming out of the Airport in Guad by Federales and asked for my papers.
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Ustlach


Dec 27, 2010, 2:11 PM

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The weekend before Christmas we drove in my US plated pickup from Hermosillo, Sonora to Tucson, Arizona. We travelled up in the afternoon hours on a Friday.

We had to stop three times to pay tolls for roads that would not qualify as cattle trails in the USA. And even though I have travelled this same "road" many times and paid these cuotas, neither of us can figure how why we seem to pay before we use the road, on some sections, and then after the fact on others. In both directions I have the distinct impression we are paying for one road segment too many. Ni modo. I just wish I could use some of that money to get the fillings in my teeth fixed that have rattled loose on those miserable excuses for roads.

We stopped at the large military check point about 100km north of Hermosillo and were waived through after explaining to a soldier from the south of Mexico why an old gringo was living in a hell-hole like Hermosillo. I am sure it just a matter of personal curiosity for him, perhaps envy, as he took notice of my much younger Mexican partner.

Then at what they call the Km21 Checkpoint around here I stopped to check out with INM on my FM2. Fortunately this part of Sonora is a "Free Zone" and as long as I stay within it with my US plated vehicle, I do not need a Mexican vehicle permit, so there is no messing around with that. Just the check out with INM.

Then the border crossing.

Maybe twenty miles north of the border, on US Interstate 19 is another stop for a Homeland Security check. Here the US officials, always Hispanic, are equally curious why I am travelling with this young Mexican man (not all that young...37) and who he is to me, how I know him, how long have I known him. One of these days I am going to spell out for them exactly how well I know him. Just to see their reaction.

It is essentially the same going back, except the Homeland Security check is right at the US/Mexico border. Other people I know in these parts have reported very lengthy backups and waits there, but I have always been lucky and never seen more than 5-6 cars ahead of me. They are also very nosey about my travelling companion, perhaps more so here than at the check going north. Here I am repatriating a Mexican out of the USA back into Mexico and they are harrassing me with 64 questions about how well I know him. Ni modo.

A stop and a hefty cuota for about 10 km of turnpike.

At the actual border crossing I get a red light at the first Mexican aduana check point. I say first, because there is another one at Km21. I pull into a slot to get the goodie-laden pickup inspected by two female aduana officers. I have at least $300 in various purchases from Sears, WalMart, Safeway, Costco, etc. Mostly food. No problema. Off we go.

We then stop at Km21 so I can check back in with INM.

Then another aduana gaunlet...green light.

Another small and reasonable cuota for a hundred kilometers of highway. Why do those 100 km cost 20 pesos and the 10 km up near the border cost 60 pesos? Muy raro.

There are signs in a couple of different places announcing an upcoming military inspection point that never materializes.

And the final 60 peso cuota to pay at Hermosillo for 0 km of highway use...ah, Mexico, you boggle the mind.

And none of this includes innumerable topes where one almost has to stop because they are so high, you have to downshift to climb them. Vendors milling all around, in and out of the lanes, snooping into the bed of the truck for something valuable looking to snag.

The trip of about 240 miles, without the border crossing which can take anywhere from one to three hours, in my experience, takes about six hours. That is an average of about 40 miles per hour on turnpikes and that is when there are no other complications, like trucks blocking the auto lanes into the various check points and border crossing, and no lines at all in the INM office or in the aduana inspection lanes when a red light occurs.


sioux4noff

Dec 27, 2010, 3:31 PM

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Why not tell them you don't know him at all, he's just riding with you, and let them ask him the questions that pertain to his travels and legality? Somehow I doubt that you really run into that many people who are jealous over your partner.


Casa

Dec 28, 2010, 10:19 AM

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Why not tell them you don't know him at all, he's just riding with you

I am in a similar situation as Ustlach and have tried that answer and many others. (including in mexico, and many other countries as well as 5 states in the US he is my spouse even thou in the eyes of the US government his is just my “friend”) None seem to satisfy the US migra in Nogales even thou my spouse has a valid laser (10 year) tourist visa for the US. We have had to DRIVE from Nogales to Tijuana to put him on a flight from Tijuana to LAX and I cross in San Diego and pick him up in LA. Not fun or cheap. The walk up, next flight to LA one way ticket price will blow your mind.


(This post was edited by Casa on Dec 28, 2010, 10:27 AM)


tashby


Dec 28, 2010, 11:14 AM

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None seem to satisfy the US migra in Nogales even thou my spouse has a valid laser (10 year) tourist visa for the US. We have had to DRIVE from Nogales to Tijuana to put him on a flight from Tijuana to LAX and I cross in San Diego and pick him up in LA.


Wait. Are you saying U.S. immigration at Nogales won't let your partner into the U.S. with a valid visa???

Man, that really blows.


Casa

Dec 28, 2010, 11:45 AM

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U.S. immigration at Nogales won't let your partner into the U.S. with a valid visa???


Yes that is correct. It seems a visa is only permission to travel to the port of entry and apply for admission. The actually entry is up to the mood discretion of individual CBP officers. So after spending more than $100 USD for the pleasure of applying for a US visa you can still be told no once you arrive at the port of entry. So then you drive hundreds of miles and buy an airline ticket. (This is why we had to go to Tijuana after a few attempts in Nogales). There was of course no problem when he flew into LAX.


sioux4noff

Dec 28, 2010, 11:48 AM

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Incredible, I didn't realize that you could be turned back with a valid visa. What a disappointment and horrible experience for those it happens to!


eyePad

Dec 28, 2010, 5:28 PM

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This reminds me of my WORST ever experience with Homeland Security. After driving with Mexican family members to Mexicali from California, upon returning, with same mexican family members in the car ALL with valid B1 visas the a-ho I mean offical from Homeland Security REFUSED to let them in and re-directed us to a useless friggin office to APPLY for permission requiring all the items needed for a Visa. Of course, all their belongings and documents were back in San Diego or elsewhere in Mexico (since they already had their Visas, right?). We ended up driving to San Diego via la rumerosa and crossed without incident with the official just waving us through. This is a true story.
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chinagringo


Dec 28, 2010, 6:13 PM

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This experience was about five years ago. We were bringing our Mexico convertible back to NM after deciding to sell our home in Ixtlahuacan (near Lake Chapala). The trunk and back seat were packed to the max but since it was August during the rainy season - the top was up and down according to the weather. In those days, there were five military checkpoints on the route heading north. Every time we had the convertible top up due to threat of rain, they wanted to check the car's contents. When the top was down, we breezed right through with no inspection. We were apprehensive about the US border because of the amount of "stuff" we had crammed in but the weather cooperated so the top was down. Went through the San Jeronimo/Santa Teresa border crossing without even a question about the contents!

The most extensive inspection we ever experienced was a year later when stopped at a AFI checkpoint between Chihuahua and Juarez. This time, we were in our van and bringing the remainder of "stuff" from the house after closing on the sale. They were really thorough and not real nice about the inspection.
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Neil
Albuquerque, NM



Mexberry

Jan 4, 2011, 6:54 PM

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We came south through Sonoyta ( ?) west of Nogales closer to Yuma. Destination was Nuevo Vallarta. This was in mid November. We were stopped by some Federal police 60 miles or so into Mexico. No problems at all. That was it . We did not feel at all threatened by anyone or at any place. We travelled during daylight and there was a constant flow of traffic. Would suggest that you keep your tanks topped up as there are some long stretches before Mazatlan where there are no Pemex stations. We figured it cost about $80 US in toll charges. I was once asked whilst filling up how far we were going, to which I replied 'campo militar' which seemed vague and threatening enough .
Enjoy your trip- ours was pleasurable.
Mexberry
 
 
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