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brecky

Dec 9, 2010, 10:50 AM

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/...AR2010120903078.html

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wearechange

Dec 9, 2010, 12:18 PM

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Here we go again. God help us all.


Peter


Dec 9, 2010, 1:08 PM

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Oh man. Why are those of us who live here always the last to know?

Good day to not be out on the highway. Last week at this time we were out in Zihuatanejo, returned last Friday. I'd hate to have my car burned up for use as a road block.


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Brian

Dec 9, 2010, 1:50 PM

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The residents of northern mexico rely upon twitter. Virtually every bit of breaking news worldwide appears on twitter before the traditional media sources.


chinagringo


Dec 9, 2010, 2:05 PM

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http://www.milenio.com/atiempo/nacional/4624

The above link takes you to quite a few reports from MILENIO on what is and what has been going on.
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



brecky

Dec 9, 2010, 2:19 PM

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Those of us w/o Facebook or Twitter or better than average Spanish skills, are kept in the dark? I had to search google news to get info after a forum post this morning that just mentioned a 'shooting' in Spanish. My Spanish isn't that good. I had to use an online translator to find out what it meant. If I lived there, I'd want to know what going on in my back yard??


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brecky

Dec 9, 2010, 2:24 PM

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Here's more news, in English
http://www.demotix.com/...incipal-exits-mexico

an update:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...AR2010120903078.html

(This post was edited by DavidMcL on Dec 9, 2010, 2:32 PM)


Anonimo

Dec 9, 2010, 4:05 PM

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5:50 PM CST; December 9, 2010

An American friend in Pátzcuaro emailed us with with links to more recent ocurrences reported in Quadratin: http://www.quadratin.com.mx, an online "newspaper".

The gist is that there have been or may presently ocurring attacks over a widespread area.

Among other items of potential interest to travelers, the Morelia Bus Station (TAM) has had departures and arrivals suspended until further notice.

This is a good time NOT to be traveling in Michoacán.

Saludos,
Anonimo

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Anonimo

Dec 9, 2010, 4:32 PM

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El Universal http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/729275.html reports that the blockades have been cleared.

Three dead, among them, a baby, in Apatzingan. Apatzingan, in La Tierra Caliente, was apparently the scene of the most intense violence.
La Marina Mexicana was called in to support local police forces.

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Anonimo


Anonimo

Dec 10, 2010, 4:36 AM

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Update with event timeline, from http://www.milenio.com/node/597602
(In Spanish, of course.)

Saludos,
Anonimo


chinagringo


Dec 10, 2010, 7:24 AM

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I am somewhat confused by conflicting or vague details in various news reports. From a local perspective, did the rumored killing of Nazario Moreno Gonzalez El Chayo provide the excuse for all of these events?

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Neil
Albuquerque, NM



chinagringo


Dec 10, 2010, 12:06 PM

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From BORDERLAND BEAT, a couple of stories on yesterdays events:

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/...ected-killed-in.html
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/...kaded-by-gunmen.html
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



Anonimo

Dec 10, 2010, 12:17 PM

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I am somewhat confused by conflicting or vague details in various news reports. From a local perspective, did the rumored killing of Nazario Moreno Gonzalez El Chayo provide the excuse for all of these events?


I don't think so, Neil. Apparently his death ocurred during Wednesday's conflict in Apatzingan.
http://www.quadratin.com.mx/...cias_wap/nota,83085/

Saludos,
Anonimo


DavidHF

Dec 10, 2010, 4:32 PM

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According to El Mural there were roadblocks and fighting in 11 different towns in Michoacan beginning Weds..


Anonimo

Dec 11, 2010, 1:03 AM

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The violent actions seem to be over for the most part, but for many of us, a feeling of uncertainty remains.

There's still possibly related damage, in the form of a few corpses (near Capula, for example) being discovered, but the victims may have been killed before the Wednesday-Thursday outbreak of violence.



Saludos,
Anonimo


Brian

Dec 11, 2010, 5:07 AM

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BlogdelNarco contains a message purportedly from members of El Chayo's family to President Calderon which can only be interpreted as a threat of more violence. It cautions residents to remain home and avoid hospitals and shopping areas. It seems to go to the length of sanctifying Chayo. El Mas Loco is now dead but the rest of these guys are also crazy with La Tuta heading the list. More caos can be expected as the Zetas try to muscle in on the weakened La Familia business.


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Brian

Dec 11, 2010, 5:23 AM

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Here is an article about the blog entry mentioned above. It's veracity is being investigated. In the past, blogdelnarco seems to have information before the other sources.

http://alertaperiodistica.com.mx/...ch-por-michoacn.html


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chinagringo


Dec 11, 2010, 6:09 AM

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Having been to Capula numerous times, I would have to wonder why they would be attracted to that town or really village? Off a main highway and as far as I know, only two roads leading out of town, if it was a matter of control it could probably be accomplished with just a few. It goes to show that even the smallest of villages isn't immune to the reach of these highly motivated narcos!
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



Brian

Dec 11, 2010, 6:31 AM

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Neil

The reason that small villages appear in the news so often is that the cartel's foot soldiers are generally housed and trained on ranchos rather than within cities themselves.


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chinagringo


Dec 11, 2010, 7:11 AM

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Makes sense but talk about a sleepy little village! Then again, there are probably plenty of spots to set a meth lab in the area away from prying eyes.
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



Reefhound


Dec 11, 2010, 7:46 AM

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Having been to Capula numerous times, I would have to wonder why they would be attracted to that town or really village? Off a main highway and as far as I know, only two roads leading out of town

Maybe that is their reason? Be where people least expect to find you. It would also be virtually impossible for anyone new (rival gang, federal investigators, intelligence agents) to arrive without being spotted.


Anonimo

Dec 11, 2010, 8:17 AM

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About Capula:
I'm trying to recall the brief news note, and where I read it, about one body, in a state of decomposition, found near the salida a Quiroga, a la altura de Capula.

Unfortunately, having read so many news articles in the last 36 hours, I can't recall the details nor the website.

Another body was reported to me by a private source, within the municipio of Pátzcuaro.

Also generally unreported was the bloqueo and incendio of one to two vehicles on Ctra Fed 14, near Tzurumútaro, within the municipio of Pátzcuaro. Again, from anonymous and private sources.

Anonimo


chinagringo


Dec 11, 2010, 8:54 AM

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I am having a similar problem remembering where I read something - way too many news reports to remember! Seems to me that I read one or more reports about grenades being used in Patzcuaro with I think a number of civilians and police being injured?
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



Brian

Dec 11, 2010, 9:12 AM

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Neil

Set your Google to default to noticias de Mexico. From there you can search recent articles by keyword. Actually the incident occurred on the road between Morelia and Patzcuaro:

http://www.quadratin.com.mx/noticias/nota,83031/


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Anonimo

Dec 11, 2010, 9:14 AM

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I hadn't seen any report on grenades and injuries in Pátzcuaro.

(EDIT: I see now the article to which Brian linked.)



Saludos,
Anonimo

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