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richmx2


Sep 2, 2010, 11:03 AM

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Re: [Altahabana] They got 'La Barbie'!

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Not that I'm going to lose any sleep over it, and aware that there is no perfect justice, I'm wondering about the presumption that el Barbie will do his time (assuming he does any time) in the United States. He killed people in Mexico, and only exported narcotics to the U.S. Wouldn't letting him serve time for narcotics violations in the U.S. be an injustice to his victims here?


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chinagringo


Sep 2, 2010, 11:20 AM

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Re: [richmx2] They got 'La Barbie'!

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Since La Barbie got his start as an inforcer in the Laredo, TX area, would it surprise anyone if they were to indict him either directly in old murders or for complicity in murders carried out by his orders? As far as an injustice to his victims in Mexico, I would say that he might have it far better in the Mexico Justice System with their horrible conviction rates or history of criminals escaping. Should he go to prison in Mexico, he could probably plan on remaining in control of his organization. Off to SuperMax in CO or being sentenced to a Federal mandated death penalty would certainly limit his options!

According to the article which follows, governments are already looking to get their hands on his assets, United States and China (?) included:

http://www.zocalo.com.mx/...ortuna-de-la-barbie/
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



Reefhound


Sep 2, 2010, 11:24 AM

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Assuming he would actually serve his time in Mexico, and not in a luxury cell. El Chapo was sentenced to 20 years and put in a Mexican maximum security prison where he reportedly had the run of his place then "escaped" when about to be extradited. Wasn't that a bigger injustice to his victims in Mexico?


Altahabana


Sep 2, 2010, 12:12 PM

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Re: [richmx2] They got 'La Barbie'!

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I'm wondering about the presumption that el [la] Barbie will do his time (assuming he does any time) in the United States. He killed people in Mexico, and only exported narcotics to the U.S. Wouldn't letting him serve time for narcotics violations in the U.S. be an injustice to his victims here?

Rich--please tell me you posted that tongue in cheek. Cardenas continued to run the Gulf Cartel out of his cell at Mexico's Supermax La Palma before he was extradited to the US and surely you know the part of the legend of Chapo Guzman that Reefhound just told. And not that it matters, but our boy Edgar killed people in the US.


(This post was edited by Altahabana on Sep 2, 2010, 12:16 PM)


wendy devlin

Sep 2, 2010, 3:05 PM

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As my Icelandic grandmother advised about life, until her death at 87, some years ago. "Wait and see."


chinagringo


Sep 3, 2010, 6:57 AM

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According to the article which follows, there was some sort of 48 hour deadline (now extended to 96 hours) regarding a determination on deporting La Barbie to the US:

http://www.informador.com.mx/...a-la-barbie-a-eu.htm
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



Reefhound


Sep 3, 2010, 6:28 PM

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Re: [Reefhound] They got 'La Barbie'!

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Another reason to put La Barbie in the U.S. judicial system:

Mexican drug kingpin gets 27 years in Ariz. prisonTUCSON, Ariz. A Mexican man who prosecutors say headed a major drug-smuggling ring that shipped tons of marijuana into the U.S. was sentenced Friday to 27 years in prison and ordered to forfeit $4 million to the American government.Carlos Molinares Nunez, also known as "Caliche," was arrested in 2006 and charged for his leadership of the Sinaloa drug cartel.

Molinares, 37, pleaded guilty to two counts of continuing criminal enterprise and conspiracy on June 5, 2009, in a plea agreement that required forfeiture of all his seized assets, including property, vehicles and jewelry.



chinagringo


Sep 5, 2010, 9:02 AM

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Re: [chinagringo] They got 'La Barbie'!

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Apparently, a judge has now ordered La Barbie held for another 40 days pending the results of the investigation.

On the extradition topic, Mexico sent one of the accused in the Juarez Consulate killings NOB to stand trial:

http://www.sunherald.com/...e-death-appears.html
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



chinagringo


Sep 11, 2010, 1:30 PM

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Re: [chinagringo] They got 'La Barbie'!

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From an article in today's WALL STREET JOURNAL, La Barbie in an unusual move is now requesting extradition to the US:
http://online.wsj.com/...483902049860786.html
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM

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