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husker

May 17, 2005, 4:05 PM

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While in Ajijic we eat at the old Pasada and had a skirt steak that was called ahor...... does any one know how this is prepared or the correct name. We are both craving this steak but can not remember what it was called or any clue how to prepare it. In the past I have prepared them with lime and loacal seasoning but it not the same. I know either the monitor or some one esle will know what I am talking about so thank you in advance.



Anonimo

May 17, 2005, 4:27 PM

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Was it "arrachera"? Grill, squirt with lime juice, sprinkle with salt. It's the original meat used for "fajitas".

Saludos,
Anonimo


esperanza

May 17, 2005, 4:35 PM

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You can do it with just lemon juice, of course, but if you want a more authentic marinade, try this recipe:

Arrachera

For 14 ounces of skirt steak

Marinade:
1 tablespoon thyme
1 tablespoon oregano
2 ounces each olive and vegetable oil
1/2 to 1 cup pineapple or papaya juice
pinch of white pepper
salt
Mix the thyme, oregano, oil, juice, white pepper and salt. Either pour the mixture over the meat in a shallow glass plan or put the meat and marinade into a zip lock bag. Let it sit for at least two to three hours.

(It would be a good idea to refrigerate the meat in the marinade and cook it the following day.)

Preheat the grill to medium high heat and grill the meat for about five minutes for medium rare, eight minutes for medium well and 12 to 15 minutes for well-done. While grilling, season the meat with more salt and pepper and baste it with oil or butter to keep it moist.




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chinagringo


Jul 12, 2010, 4:30 PM

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Re: [esperanza] skirt steak

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In doing a search here to hopefully satisfy my quest for a great Arrachera recipe, I ran across this 2005 recipe from Esperanza. Wondering if any modifications have been made in the last five years?
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



Hound Dog

Jul 13, 2010, 9:04 AM

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Well, I believe arrachera is made with flank steak, not skirt steak and there is a difference. I prefer skirt steak to flank steak so I´m not really taking sides. Also, maybe I´m wrong so someone correct me if that is a fact. I am certain that great arrachera can be made with both skirt and flank steak but I have never personally seen skirt steak in a butcher shop in Mexico to my knowledge. Please enlighten me more profoundly educated ones than I out there.

The best arrachera:

Buy your favorite already marinated arrachera at your local grocery and take it home re-marinating it after cutting it into slices appropriate for BBQ grilling in the following marinade:

Lime juice
Extra virgin olive oil
Lots of crushed garlic
Ground cumin
Oregano
Ground chile de arbol (or ground cayenne)
A dash of Worcestershire Sauce (optional)

Marinate this for about four hours.

BBQ over hot coals for a short period of time and serve with:

Tortillas
Guacamole
Salsa Cruda*
Refied Beans
Tequila or XX Lager

*SALSA CRUDA DE DAWG
Diced:
Tomatoes
Cilantro
Fresh Serrano Chiles (or Chiles Jalapeños en Escabeche or even Fresh Chiles Habaneros as you wish)
White Onion


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esperanza

Jul 13, 2010, 12:40 PM

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Skirt steak is a cut known as fajita, and it's sold all over Mexico as arrachera.

Go back and look at my post (#13) in the "Ground beef for hamburger" thread. That post is the beef cuts chart. Bottom center in the picture is falda. In the descriptions, you'll see that there are several cuts that come from this part of the animal. It's the fajita ("Inside skirt") that's used for arrachera. The cut that's shown on the chart as the actual falda is the flank steak.

In Kimpatsu Hekigan's post #16 on that same thread, scroll down and look at the very bottom picture in the chart. Bingo: fajita is arrachera again.




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Hound Dog

Jul 13, 2010, 2:21 PM

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Skirt steak is a cut known as fajita, and it's sold all over Mexico as arrachera.

Well, Esperanza Darlin´ all the arrachera I have purchased in Mexico has clearly been flank steak it seems to me but that is neither here nor there.

While I am sure he was a total a*hole, I always liked John Houston. He was, at one time in his youth, having a serious argument with an associate and, after much ado about nothing, he was forced to concede his opponent was correct on whichever assertion was being debated and Houston responded, according to legend, upon having been clearly bested; " Well OK, puntbrain, you may be right but my d*ck is bigger than yours." which is a rejoinder not always appropriate but which is nonetheless a fine way to end a debate no matter how facile nor without merit the point.


chinagringo


Jul 13, 2010, 4:44 PM

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Dawg:

Thanks for the input. Since we cannot purchase already marinated Arrachera, I will be starting from scratch and once I have prepared the original marinade and allowed it to do its thing - I will then supplement with your recommendation. By the time this is all completed, our entire supply of Tequila should be gone. Since we have not be satisfied with the local supply of either flank or skirt steak, my next experiment with be using a very marbled choice grade flatiron steak for this attempt at fajitas.
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



esperanza

Jul 13, 2010, 6:02 PM

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I'll be interested to hear how the flatiron steak experiment goes. Please take and post photos!




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Hound Dog

Jul 14, 2010, 4:23 PM

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Dawg:

Thanks for the input. Since we cannot purchase already marinated Arrachera, I will be starting from scratch and once I have prepared the original marinade and allowed it to do its thing - I will then supplement with your recommendation. By the time this is all completed, our entire supply of Tequila should be gone. Since we have not be satisfied with the local supply of either flank or skirt steak, my next experiment with be using a very marbled choice grade flatiron steak for this attempt at fajitas.
Regards,
Neil


Although I am no expert on beef cuts, Neil, I am surprised you cannot find either satisfactory skirt or flank steak in New Mexico. I would have sworn we ate both good skirt and flank steak cuts while living in Santa Fe and Taos back in the 80s but maybe not. Both skirt and flank cut are easily found and quite popular in Northern California. Maybe, however, your notion of a "very marbled" flatiron steak is a good one. As Esperanza said - let us know. I don´t buy much beef or often visit butcher shops in either Jalisco or Chiapas but I personally have never seen a "very marbled" steak in the land of grass fed beef. At least the lean beef around here may be better for you than that delicious fatty U.S. beef.

Do remember that both skirt and flank steaks must be well-marinated after you have bought it at your favorite butcher or they will be tough.

I have eaten a lot of skirt steak and flank steak in California, France and Mexico and I think some of the confusion regarding these two cuts of meat results from the fact that both cuts come from the same muscle but they are not at all alike. Flank steak is much thicker than the very thin skirt steak when butchered in California where we often used skirt for certain types of Asian cooking - especially Korean BBQ after marinating. If you go to Wikipedia and other internet sources, illustrations you will find show clearly that arrachera (which is really the only local beef we buy at Lakeside) comes from what would be known as flank steak in California so perhaps this is a simple cultural difference. For instance, "fajitas" would be made from skirt steak in Texas and perhaps Northern Mexico where I understand it is a staple of "Tex-Mex" cooking.

This cut which, according to Wikipedia, is also known as "hanger" steak since it "hangs" from the diaphragm of the steer, is one muscle cut into two separate cuts of meat - thus, the outer cut, or flank, and the very thin and tougher inner cut known as skirt. I have consumed much arrachera in Mexico and , having also historically eaten much skirt steak in California, I can assure you that arrachera is flank steak unless Mexican butchers do not cut the muscle into two separate cuts which, I suppose is possible.

Incidentally, flank steak (as separate from skirt steak) is quite popular bistro food in Paris where Dawg has often ordered it and it is known as "bavette". A bavette cooked with shallots and served with french fries and a glass of house red wine in a Paris bistro eaten al fresco. That brings back memories and is an inviting future plan.

I don´t think that Esperanza and I are necessarily in disagreement although she may disagreee that we are not in disagreement. She can speak for herself.


chinagringo


Jul 17, 2010, 11:35 AM

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Having never taken photos of any recipe I have prepared, I will attempt to do so and hopefully not embarrass myself. You and Mike take great photos of food and set the standard pretty darned high!
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



esperanza

Jul 17, 2010, 6:26 PM

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Neil, if you haven't already prepared this, please take a photo of the raw meat so that we can see it. I am particularly interested in how the grain of the meat runs.




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Anonimo

Jul 18, 2010, 4:06 AM

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Our regular butcher in Pátzcuaro once prepared "arrachera" for us out of a non typical piece of beef. His cutting was very skilled, and the results were tasty and tender, but it still wasn't "ARRACHERA[/b"].

Saludos,
Anonimo


Hound Dog

Jul 18, 2010, 3:32 PM

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Our regular butcher in Pátzcuaro once prepared "arrachera" for us out of a non typical piece of beef. His cutting was very skilled, and the results were tasty and tender, but it still wasn't "ARRACHERA

Well said, Anonimo:

DWAG´S TAKE ON ARRACHERA
Listen here Neil; go to a quality butcher in Albuquerque of which there must be a significant number and order up a flank steak. For a photo of what to expect, got to Wikipedia and look up flank steak - that´s arrachera. Take it home and stab it all over with a fork on both sides (optional but Dawg would). Marinate that sucker in lime juice, olive oil, cumin, oregano,red chili pepper and tons of garlic. Salt to taste or throw a bit of Worcestershire Sauce in the mix. Sip a couple of bottles of Herradura Blanco with discretion and, after the second bottle is half emptied (this is for timing of the marinade) , cut the flank steak slab into serving sized steaks with the grain, throw those suckers on a very hot charcoal grill for just a few minutes charring both sides. Serve with guacamole, salsa cruda, refied beans and corn tortillas.

The next time you are in Ajijic or the Greater Guadalajara area, buy the already marinated arrachera which is this gourmet chain´s specialty and follow the same instructions as above except, since Suzason´s arrachera is already marinated, if inadequately so for Dawg - skip the salt.

I know this mimics the recipe I posted earlier but what the hell.


tashby


Jul 18, 2010, 4:17 PM

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I did one on the grill today from Walmart, brand name "Karne" or something silly like that. It wasn't bad, though it was too salty for me.

I used to swear by the pre-marinated arracheras from Susazon, but then we had a couple that struck us as too....errrm.....soft. Lacking a meaty texture. I don't know, maybe it was over-marinated?

I think I'll go back and try Susazon again next time. But I'll check the packaging date.

I'm pretty sure Susazon is from Guanajuato? Anyway, here's their website. Products are widely distributed throughout Mexico evidently.

http://www.susazon.com/index2.htm


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chinagringo


Jul 18, 2010, 4:47 PM

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Well Dawg:

We have spent a portion of the day preparing for our latest experiment with Arrachera and accompanying side dishes. As a starting point for the Arrachera, I prepared a marinade using Esperanza's recipe with slight modifications and as previously stated, flatiron steak for this go around. To go with the Arrachera, Kathy prepared her well refined Guacamole recipe (which I would put up against most anyone's), Pico de Gallo, Mexican Red Rice and flour Tortillas (our preference over corn). Sorry but no refried beans since neither of us particularly cares for them. As for Tequila, we recently opened a bottle of LOS ARANGO Reposado, purchased on one of our MX trips.

I have accepted Esperanza's challenge to photograph the process and the end results. Will write a critique ans synopsis on Monday and provide a link to photos. Hopefully, I will not embarrass myself with the outcome!

Specialty meat markets or Mexican meat markets are a joke in Albuquerque! The best bet is COSTCO with their choice and sometimes prime. I refuse to waste any further time with the other options. And don't get me started about seafood here!
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



chinagringo


Jul 19, 2010, 8:22 AM

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Arrachera using Flatiron Steak:

We decided on using Esperanza's recipe from earlier in this thread with a few minor modifications. Started with a 1.32lb choice grade Flatiron Steak from our local ALBERTSONS. Marinade was exactly as suggested using R. W. KNUDSEN 100% Natural Papaya Nectar, KIRKLAND Extra Virgin Toscano Olive Oil, vegetable oil, specified spices but added 1/2 tsp. cumin and 2 medium cloves of garlic. Marinade and steak were placed in a zip lock bag and marinaded for 10 hours in the refrigerator. Preheated grill and metal "sizzle platter" while taking the steak out of the marinade and seasoned it on both sides with sea salt & steakhouse pepper mix freshly ground. Both sides were then basted with olive oil just before placing on the medium hot grill.

Note: Just prior to grilling, a New Mexico evening thunder/lightning storm brought on by a 100 degree day, decided to let lose. Our BBQ sits uncovered - so I was in for a cool down.

The steak was grilled four or five minutes per side and then removed for slicing, while the metal sizzle platter was left on the grill. After slicing, the slices were placed on the sizzle platter and then drizzled with freshly squeezed Persian lime juice.

Photo slideshow of the entire dinner:
http://www.flickr.com/...57624411126797/show/

COMMENTS: The "flatiron steak" proved to be the most moist, tender and flavorful attempt we have made yet in making Arrachera! This choice of meat cut will be our preferred beef choice from this point forward. The Mexican Red Rice, the Pico de Gallo and the Guacamole were all made from scratch and provided a great accompaniment to the Arrachera Fajitas. The only negative to the entire experiment was the number of dishes and utensils that had to be washed preparing this dinner for two people.

Our thanks to Esperanza and the Dawg for all of their suggestions and comments!
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



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esperanza

Jul 20, 2010, 9:43 AM

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Great photos, Neil, and thanks for posting them. Everything looks so delicious and beautifully presented that your meal made my mouth water. Congratulations.

The steak looks fabulous and is beautifully grilled, but it is definitely not a cut that I would call arrachera. Arrachera is a particular cut of meat, not the manner in which it is prepared. Next time I go to Costco, I will buy some and post a photo of the raw meat. At Costco, it's sold either plain or pre-marinated; I buy mine plain, so that's what you'll see in my pictures.




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don pedro


Jul 22, 2010, 6:23 PM

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great pics chinagringo. the raw meat looks like it came from the top side of the shoulder blade from chuck judging by the graining but then again i could be wrong. if it is and you tenderized it-you performed a miracle and a parade in honour of saint chinagringo would not be out of order-jeje!
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chinagringo


Jul 23, 2010, 3:28 PM

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Thanks for the comments Pedro!

Given your question on where this cut comes from, I did a bit of research for an explanation. The following links provide such:
http://bbq.about.com/...eaks/a/aa051207a.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_iron_steak
http://confessionsofabutcher.blogspot.com/...k-hype-or-heart.html

Of note in the first linked article, they mention that it is interchangeable with a flank or skirt steak.
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM

 
 
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