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kmetzger

Jun 28, 2010, 12:05 PM

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Does anybody know if there's an online site to download the form for paying the fee (pago de derechos)? I need the form that specifies a payment of $1294 for rentistas. I live in Guadalajara. Will I have to go to the Guadalajara office to pick them up?

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esperanza

Jun 28, 2010, 12:09 PM

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If INM is still using the SAT 5 form for payment of the FM-3 fee, you can buy as many as you need at any papelería.

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Demonio

Jun 28, 2010, 12:29 PM

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Go here http://www.mexconnect.com/...;;page=unread#unread for a guide to renewing your FM3. It includes instructions for completing the payment form online. There are four choices under Art. 8 Fracc II -- A, B, C and D. Some of the wording is cut off, but if you're renewing a "rentista: FM3 choose B. Para dedicarse a actividades no lucrativas, por cada prórroga $1,294.00 pesos. A. is for a new FM3; C. is for a new working FM3 ($2,102.00 pesos); and D. is for renewal of a working FM3.

If you need help, PM me. Good luck -- G

"What we've got here is a failure to communicate."

kmetzger

Jun 28, 2010, 1:24 PM

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Thank you Demonio and Esperanza - I already read your excellent guide to applying online, Demonio. It was a tremendous help. As far as online payments, I don't think they'll accept my German credit card and I don't have a Mexican bank account. I went to a papeleria per Esperanza's advice. They didn't have it, but they downloaded from the Internet. So I'm all set. It's not the standard SAT form but Hoja ayuda para el pago en ventanilla bancaria.

morgaine7

Jun 28, 2010, 1:55 PM

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In our area (BCS), the SAT 5 forms haven't been used for the past 2-3 years. The year of the change, I went to what seemed like every papeleria in town before finding them, only to discover that INM had switched to using the new bank form. Aaaaay!!

Kate

Demonio

Jun 28, 2010, 6:49 PM

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kmetzer, with the info provided, you won't be paying online - only completing the form that you'll take to the bank and pay with cash, credit card, or whatever. if you get the form at a papeleria, inm or where ever, you still have to go to the bank and pay. completing the form online just saves you time and you're sure it'll be accepted by inm in gdl. don't forget to make a copy of the original receipt cuz they'll want one.

g

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kmetzger

Jun 29, 2010, 12:23 PM

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Booby traps

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I just got back from Migracion in Guadalajara with a few more tasks to take care of. I foolishly assumed the procedures had been simplified, but in reality, they have added a few twists to the process that could well send people with busy working schedules running around with more work to do for Migracion.

1. The new payment form asks you to provide your surname, your mother's name and your first and middle names. But don't do that. The name on the receipt of payment has to match the name in your passport and US passports don't include your mother's name. Now I have to go back to the bank and redo the payment.

2. In my case - retiree with dependent wife applying for extensions of our FM3s - in addition to the letter declaring that you are providing financial support for your dependent (carta de apoyo), you also have to write a letter saying your activity has not changed.

Yo, Sr. so and so, manifiesto baco de protesta de decir verdad que continuo con la misma actividad con la cual me fue autorisado mi FM3 continuando como rentista.Solicito la prorroga de mi documento.

and the dependent has to sign a letter reading as follows:

Yo, Sra. so and so, manifiesto baco de protesta de decir verdad que continuo con la misma actividad con la cual me fue autorisado mi FM3 continuando como dependiente economico de mi esposo.
Solicito la prorroga de mi documento.

I also made the mistake of creating two registrations instead of one when I filled out the online form. I don't know how it happened, but that caused a wait of one hour to get it straightened out.

And I just got back from the bank. I had to pay the fee a second time because they weren't able to just make the change. So Migracion's own payment form asks you to enter your apellido materno, but if you follow their instructions, you're in for trouble.

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Rolly

Jun 29, 2010, 2:00 PM

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That online form for printing a paymet form to take to the bank has caused money loses for others. I removed the form from my website because of its problems. I suggest you don't try to use it. Get a for sure accurate form from the INM office when you file your papers. A second trip to the office is better than losing your money to the bank which is not going to refund your money just because you used the wrong form.

Remember: Bank is the alternate spelling of bandit.

Rolly Pirate

Rolly

Jun 29, 2010, 2:16 PM

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Also I think the word baco in the statement "...manifiesto baco de protesta..." should be bajo.

Rolly Pirate

Demonio

Jun 29, 2010, 5:02 PM

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Actually, all you have to do is follow the simple directions and you'll be fine. My friend and I were in and out of GDL INM in less than ten minutes with new FM3s. If you're not sure - ASK. I'd be happy to charge you $500 pesos, or more, to walk you through it, but it's not necessary and fortunately, I don't need your money.

G

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kmetzger

Jul 17, 2011, 9:34 AM

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I've run into a new problem dealing with the letter I'm supposed to submit declaring that my activity has not changed since last year. I'm still a retiree, rentista, but the migracion office told me yesterday that the wording in the letter I submitted a month ago is incorrect. They gave me the instructions in writing, but I'm not sure if I got it right. Could someone take a look at my draft letter and tell me if it makes sense in Spanish or if I've garbled it?

Original letter:
Yo, Kim Metzger, bajo protesta de decir verdad declaro que mantengo las mismas condiciones y actividades realizadas bajo las cuales me fue concedida mi característica migratoria. Deseo prorrogar mi característica migratoria.

Revised letter:
Yo, Kim Metzger, bajo protesta de decir verdad manifeste que subsisten las condiciones bajo las cuales le fue concedida la caracteristica migratoria de rentista manifestacion de las actividades que se encuentra realizando vivir de mis recursos provenien tes del extranjero.

joaquinx

Jul 17, 2011, 10:10 AM

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This was the letter I submitted. It actually was written for me by the agent at IMN.

Instituto Nacional de Migracion
Subdelegacion local Xalapa

26/4/2011
A Quien Corresponda:

Bajo protesta de decir verdad, el que suscribe YOUR NAME de nacionalidad ESTADOUNIDENSE con pasaporte No. NUMBER y FM3 No. NUMBER, solicito me 4ta prorroga de mi documento migratorio para continuar realizando las actividades a las que estoy autorizado como no inmigrante visitante rentista (vivir de mis recursos económicos provenientes del extranjero).

Asi mismo manifestó vivir en YOUR ADDRESS.
_______
My desire to be well-informed is currently at odds with my desire to remain sane.

La Isla

Jul 17, 2011, 1:28 PM

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In Reply To

Revised letter:
Yo, Kim Metzger, bajo protesta de decir verdad manifeste que subsisten las condiciones bajo las cuales le fue concedida la caracteristica migratoria de rentista manifestacion de las actividades que se encuentra realizando vivir de mis recursos provenien tes del extranjero.

A few minor corrections: " . . . de decir verdad
manifiesto . . ." "me fue concedida . . ."

mexliving

Jul 17, 2011, 5:06 PM

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i was under the impression that you go to imigration...... they do the online form for re-newal then you take that to make your payment.......

kmetzger

Jul 24, 2011, 10:17 AM

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Booby traps

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I submitted my revised my statement on current activity last week (thanks, La Isla), and now I'm informed online that I need to come back to the office. But can someone tell me what the second notification means?

1. 22 Jul 2011 Presentarse en una oficina del INM

2. 22 Jul 2011 Se permite el pre registro en línea de su información

Revised letter:
Yo, Kim Metzger, bajo protesta de decir verdad manifiesto que subsisten las condiciones bajo las cuales me fue concedida la caracteristica migratoria de rentista, manifestacion de las actividades que se encuentra realizando vivir de mis recursos provenientes del extranjero.

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La Isla

Jul 24, 2011, 10:39 AM

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You're welcome, Kim. Proofreading is one of my favorite pastimes! Sorry I can't help you with the meaning of the second notification.

kmetzger

Jul 2, 2012, 2:35 PM

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Another booby trap

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Another year has gone by since I last went through the FM3 process, and I just stepped into another booby trap. After waiting in line at the bank with my "Hoja de ayuda para pago en ventilla bancaria" for 45 minutes to pay my fees, I was informed that I'd have to go home and start again. In entered $1451.06 on the form because that was what the government said I owed. Wrong! You have to enter $1451 - not the centavos.

Vichil

Jul 2, 2012, 2:40 PM

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Re: [kmetzger] Another booby trap

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Same thing happened to me when I applied for a duplicate for my lost immigrado card...No cents ae accepted although the fee has centavos. You would think they would not quote a price with centavos if they do not want any....