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ken_in_dfw

May 11, 2010, 7:36 PM

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I see that the Mexican summer has arrived right on time. It's causing kids in Cuernavaca to go to school at different hours. And unfortunately, there has already been a death in Sonora.

Having lived here in Texas for 20 years, I view those rising temps south of the border with trepidation, because I know that our time to fry is nigh.

But I also know, as a long time resident of the Lone Star State and a sometime visitor to México during April, May and June, that there is an art to surviving those blistering heat waves. Some of it is the standard stuff they tell you on the radio or nightly news: wear light breathable clothes, drink lots of water, take it easy during the heat of the afternoon.

But then there are other tips that aren't as well-promoted. Por ejemplo, when it gets hot, I become addicted to paletas and licuados. And even though I look like Farmer Brown, I wear a big straw hat when I absolutely have to go out while the afternoon sun is raining down.

And then you can do what this little guy is doing:



So I'd like to hear from some of you more, um, seasoned members of MexConnect - whether you live in hotter climates or just travel there from time to time. How do you cope? What local wisdoms have you learned from your neighbors about the art of keeping cool? Hope the rains come soon. Stay cool everybody!



Memo

May 11, 2010, 8:19 PM

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Personally, I have the feeling that hot, humid climates are good for you. I may be wrong, but it seems to me life slows down, I drink more water, eat less and of course sweat more. All of which are healthier than staying indoors and pigging out on the couch in a cold climate. As for ways to cope, the good old electric fan is a must and my clothes absolutely have to be light and comfortable to be able to cope with it.


Hound Dog

May 11, 2010, 8:23 PM

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Having lived here in Texas for 20 years, I view those rising temps south of the border with trepidation, because I know that our time to fry is nigh.

Well, of course you know Ken that the heat in the Mexican Highlands can never approach the heat of DFW but that is not the point. Since we live in two towns; one at 5,000 feet and one at 7,000 feet the answer on the surface should, perhaps, be simple but it´s not. Logic would dictate moving to the higher town in Mexico during the April/May heat wave but it´s not that simple. The truly rainy season begins in late May to mid-June in the northern tropics so before that, whether one is in Chiapas at 7,000 fet or Jalisco at 5,000 feet, April or May signals the season for agricultural burn-off so the air in either place can be polluted by that burn off to an unpleasant degree and actually to the point of noticable discomfort. There is also the discomfort of allergies triggered by springtime phenomena in tha air. In Chiapas, especially,but also, to a lesser degree in Jalisco where those phenomena include invisible airborne human and animal bacteria laden fecal matter that can make you sick.

We´ve thought that next year we could head for France where they are, at present (Mid-May) , having a cold and rainy May and eveybody is bitching because the daily highs are about 50F. In France the weather is unpredicatble in May except that one can depend on the fact that if the weather turns warm and pleasant that will not last. The French are sick of the cold and dismal winter but that would not bother us having spent the winter in Mexico.

OK. Maybe that would not work so we were thinking of spending next May in the Peruvian Highlands where the seasons are reversed. Aeromexico has a non-stop from DF to Lima and then we could head for Cuzco at 12,000 feet when the season supposedly duplicates October and the beginning of the dry season.

Well, maybe that isn´t going to work either so perhaps Norway or Kenya.

One thing for sure. At our age as soon as we figure this out if we ever do it will be time to check out.

DAMN!


Rolly


May 11, 2010, 8:32 PM

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I hate summer. My idea of a nice summer is 3 feet of snow. Every May I start dreaming of Patagonia.

I do my shopping early in the morning and spend the rest of day under my AC.

Thus far this season, we have set 9 new high temps for the date -- all over 100°. Today we hit 106° the former high for this date was 103° I think we are in for a killer summer in little old Lerdo.

When I lived in Vermont, we used to joke about what a nice summer we had. It came on a Wednesday afternoon this year.

Rolly Pirate


Hound Dog

May 11, 2010, 8:42 PM

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Personally, I have the feeling that hot, humid climates are good for you. I may be wrong, but it seems to me life slows down, I drink more water, eat less and of course sweat more. All of which are healthier than staying indoors and pigging out on the couch in a cold climate. As for ways to cope, the good old electric fan is a must and my clothes absolutely have to be light and comfortable to be able to cope with it.

Not a bad theory Memo but that does not explain why southern states in the U.S., especially Mississippi, with their hot and humid climates, have the highest rate of obesity in that nation nor does it explain why, in Chiapas, in Tuxtla Gutierrez the state capital and the state´s largest city, with a hot and humid tropical climate, the people are significantly fatter than the people living in cool, Alpine San Cristóbal at 7,000 feet just 70 kilometers up the escarpment. Nor would your theory explain why the Yucatan Peninsula, a year-around hot and humid place, has such terrible all-encompassing health problems among the populace.

In Mississippi some of it has to do with overconsumption of whiskey and BBQ sammiches and sitting lazily around on the veranda going, "Whooee hit sho is hot." In the yucatan it has something to do with overconsumption of beer and their version of BBQ sammiches and four hour siestas going (in Spanish or several other languages) "Whooee, hit sho is hot."


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Peter


May 11, 2010, 9:09 PM

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It is around 6300ft here in Morelia and my house in the Centro has those meter-thick walls. What heat? Actually, it does get a little stuffy around 8pm so I turn on a ceiling fan for about an hour.

Outside temps are typically in the 80's but can reach into the 90's during spring, our hottest season. It's dry heat, which is more comfortable, but can get warm enough out in the sun to grumble.

It's not hot enough here to be much of a bother, and like many others I've spoken to here, I prefer the heat to the cold and make my trips to the playas in the winter months.


Anonimo

May 12, 2010, 1:51 AM

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We were in Morelia last Wednesday and it was definitely hot. Not sticky sweaty hot, but oven roasting hot. Indoors, it wasn't at all bad with a fan.

Back home, at 7000 feet a.s.l. near Pátzcuaro, it was also hot until sundown. But in our house, it was cool, and our walls are just modern concrete block. We ran the ceiling fan one evening.

The day before yesterday, we had a good downpour of rain for over 30 minutes, in the late afternoon. It was an early start for the rainy season, but we were thankful for its coming. Yesterday, the rain was much briefer, but we have hopes for more and better rains in the months to come.

Saludos,
Anonimo


morgaine7


May 12, 2010, 6:51 AM

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* Fans
* Swimming pool

Here in La Paz, BCS, we have a desert/coastal climate and strong sun, so the difference between day and night temperatures can be as much as 40 degrees F. The muggiest weather is mid-August to mid-October. We get some rain then, but it tends to be in the form of tropical storms and rarely cools things off. Heat index can be as high as 120 degrees F with little to no wind. Daytime actual highs are frequently over 100 and nights in the high 70s and low 80s.

I don't have AC but do have a good ceiling fan in each room, along with a floor fan that can be moved around as needed. I also use the pool every afternoon and occasionally at night if it's too hot to sleep. Morning is the best time for errands, etc.

Kate


tashby


May 13, 2010, 9:07 PM

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When you live near Lake Chapala, you aren't allowed to complain about the weather. Ever.

That said, we've been at the beach the last week, and the ocean temps in Nayarit are flat out perfection right now.


NEOhio1


May 13, 2010, 9:43 PM

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That's right, NO whining allowed.

Dip in the pool a couple times as day.

Stay home and out of the village, as its really hot there with heat bouncing off the concrete walls.

Drink lots of cool beverages.


Gringal

May 14, 2010, 7:42 AM

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Just came back from a couple of days in Manzanillo yesterday. Miserably humid, not enough breeze most of the day and right now, the ocean is a gunky yellow brown color. And it's hot. So, happy to be back at Lakeside, and dammit, I can complain if I want to. It's hot here, too. How to cope?

If you can't contemplate relocating to cooler climes for May, and you don't have a pool to dip into.......you can just hunker down with a good book next to the fan in the afternoon. By evening, you turn on your memory bank and recall how very nice it is here the rest of the year, 'cause it isn't, here and now. At night, if you can live with the CFE hit , you crawl gratefully into your air conditioned bedroom. For me, that coolth is worth every peso.

How many of you remember "running through the sprinklers" as kids? That was a good fix.


ken_in_dfw

May 14, 2010, 8:31 AM

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I hate summer. My idea of a nice summer is 3 feet of snow. Every May I start dreaming of Patagonia.




I think that's what my alpha male, Fortune, was dreaming of last February, Rolly. But knowing him, it was probably more along the lines of "Who ordered this stuff?"

Me? I keep this picture on my refrigerator to get me through the next 6 months of hell that they call summer in Texas.


sparks


May 14, 2010, 8:42 AM

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73 at lakeside today

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Gringal

May 14, 2010, 8:46 AM

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73? My, how things must have changed since yesterday. 73 at what time? grin.


sparks


May 14, 2010, 9:05 AM

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Well it's almost 75 now according to the Riberas weather station. The rain we had in Joco last night cooled us off and was almost chilly this morning

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La Isla


May 14, 2010, 11:33 AM

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We've had some rain this week in Mexico City, and today it feels much cooler than it's been for awhile. Last night I went out for a stroll to my favorite neighborhood sidewalk café, and I needed a light jacket to keep off the chill. Fabulous! Earlier in the week, when the sidewalks were still giving off heat after sunset, I looked for air-conditioned venues, like Superama and Starbuck's to cool off.


N2Futur

May 14, 2010, 11:47 AM

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We spent May 1-11 in Cozumel, boy was it HOT and HUMID! Temps hit 96. Now we're back in Melaque, PERFECT - 82 F today and hardly any humidity. A lot of people are predicting a hotter than normal summer. We are starting construction of a pool Monday - between the pool and A/C in bedroom/ceiling fans, we should stay pretty comfortable. And there is always the beach with a nice breeze less than a block away.

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esperanza

May 14, 2010, 12:36 PM

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Last week was the standard May hotter-than-the-hinges-of-hell let's-go-to-the-movies-to-cool-off hot, dry as sandpaper and like a slap in the face outside. This Wednesday it rained like crazy and cooled things waaaay down. It was chilly here this morning--well, sorta. I can live with this. It's wonderful at my house in Morelia: about 80, very little humidity, nice nice nice.




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Rolly


May 14, 2010, 12:39 PM

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Cold wave hits Lerdo. Mid-afternoon and it's only 91°

Rolly Pirate


tashby


May 14, 2010, 4:57 PM

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Just came back from a couple of days in Manzanillo yesterday. Miserably humid, not enough breeze most of the day and right now, the ocean is a gunky yellow brown color.

I don't know why, but I've always experienced better (less extreme) weather on the coast north of Vallarta than in the area immediately around Manzanillo. We had fantastic breezes, temperatures I think a bit lower than Lake Chapala, and relatively low humidity during the five days we were there. (Of course, now that the *real* humidity is on the way, we won't be seeing any beach til October/November or so...)

And Man. The ocean was the perfect temperature. And the beaches were practically empty. And....okay, okay.

Now we're back in Ajijic. It's pretty hot and dry. Fortunately, right at sunset it started pouring rain in our backyard. Right on the exposed brick patio/oven. Right out of the garden hose! (Running through the sprinkler is for special occasions.)


sparks


May 14, 2010, 5:37 PM

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There's a big difference in humidity between Manzanillo and Melaque ... only an hour north. Don't know what it is but it's not the cement of the city

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Manuel Dexterity

May 14, 2010, 5:42 PM

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I'm in Barra de Navidad for a few days and the weather is perfect. I didn't notice much of a difference in humidity from Guadalajara. Last night we slept without a fan.

There is an algae bloom though so the ocean is kinda funky. We're heating up the hot tub at this moment.


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Judy in Ags


May 14, 2010, 6:34 PM

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Anonimo, your situation sounds much like ours in Aguascalientes (6200 feet) and our walls aren't THAT thick. We turn the fans on if it gets too warm, but inside the house it's usually quite comfortable--especially if there is any cloud cover outside. Once the rains start, "too warm" should be a thing of the past until next May.


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tashby


May 14, 2010, 7:02 PM

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Sorry for the beachside sidetrack....a couple of other things we do to "cope".

We live in a two-story house and normally sleep upstairs. But during the hottest times we'll refugee downstairs and sleep in a guest room. The temp difference is pretty amazing, even though we have tons of cross-ventilation and fans working upstairs.

Also, we rent and our house has no pool. I admit last week I looked semi-seriously at a little kiddy wading pool available at the local dollar store. I wonder if it's still there.


Papirex


May 14, 2010, 8:28 PM

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What heat? It depends on how important a steady year around climate is to you to choose where to live. I haven't experienced a 100 ° F. Day in 40 years. I have never seen any frost where we live either.


If a year around steady climate is important to you, investigate living in the central highlands. The central highlands here are located slightly south of the center of the country measuring from north to south, but they are located near the center of the country when measuring from east to west.


If you decide to live in the western highlands, your weather will be influenced by the Pacific ocean. You will experience cold winters and very hot days in the spring. Altitude does play a very important role in the weather pattern. If you are not very familiar with all of México, rent, and live in several areas before you make the plunge and move here on the word of real estate salesmen that will almost always tell you that anyplace where they are selling houses has a perfect climate.


The place where we live brags that it is a city with four distinct climates in one city, warmer in the south, and cooler in the north. That is very true. When we first moved here from México City 10 years ago, we lived in the fracciónamiento of Burgos on the southern edge of town. We did experience a few days of 93 to 94° F. Temperatures there that first spring. There was some ash fall and air pollution in the Burgos area every year when the nearby farmers burned their cane fields. The rest of our city is pollution free.


We now live on the northern edge of town, and the hottest days in the spring are about 80 to 81° F. The coldest winter nights we have ever had here were this past winter, and another unusually cold winter 3 or 4 years ago when the outside temperatures dropped to about 48° F. At night. Most years the outside temps never go lower than about 50 to 51° F. Lately it has been about 26° C. (78.8 ° F.) during the day, and right now at 10 PM, it is 24.1° C. (75.38° F.) outside. We have never needed an air conditioner, although the frst house we leased here had one, we never used it.


We sometimes use a couple of oscillating tabletop Honeywell fans on a warm day, they are all we need on a particularly warm day, and they keep the flies out of the kitchen. I leave the back door open for our dogs convienience during the day. Insects don't like to fly in a breeze. Our Hneywell fans have a breeze setting on them, which means that they turn off, and back on about every 10 seconds and since they are oscillating, we don't have to sit in a steady wind.


The house we are living in now is at 1889 meters (6233 feet) altitude. Live near sea level and you will probably swelter in the spring and summer. Spring is normally the hottest, or warmest time of the year in most places here, not the summer months.


The rainy season which will probably start next month, is just a pain in the neck to me, we don't need rain to cool us down, or to clean the already pure air here.


The official city motto here is “The city of eternal spring” it is. Also, the most intelligent dogs in all of México live here.


I don't know who made up the myth that the kids school hours have been changed here in Cuernavaca, that has not happened and never does because of the weather here. It never gets hot in Cuernavaca. If you think it does, then stay away. We already have too many Yankees here.


Rex
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