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Rolly

Feb 4, 2010, 7:32 PM

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"What's Spanish for Quagmire? Reassessing Mexico's War on Drugs"

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There is a very thought provoking article on México's drug war in the current issue of Foreign Policy Magazine by Jorge G. Castaneda, former Mexican foreign minister.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/...r_quagmire?page=full

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cookj5

Feb 5, 2010, 2:20 PM

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At last, a voice of sanity. Caleron's drug war, like that pursued by the US, is utterly hopeless and wrong-headed. It calls to mind the command of Danish King Canute that the tide should not come in. Drugs of all classes are more potent, more available, and less expensive now than when Richard Nixon declared his War on Drugs (thanks again, Dick).

Zarcero

Feb 16, 2010, 12:13 PM

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I thought the article was poor. It is simply criticism offering no solutions.

I support the war on drugs, I simply do not support the way it is being executed. The US needs to be tougher on drug users. I like the Malaysia model. Caught with drugs in Malaysia and you are sentenced to death. They have very little to zero drug problems in Malaysia. Capisce?

Fix the problem here in the US and the problem in Mexico goes away. Why should Mexicans die just to help a bunch of useless Gringos get high?

(This post was edited by Zarcero on Feb 16, 2010, 12:13 PM)

Ivester

Feb 17, 2010, 5:55 AM

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That's a brilliant solution. Have the military round up the undesirables and kill them. Wasn't that tried before in the 1940s, somewhere in the neighborhood of Germany and Poland?

lostinmex

Feb 17, 2010, 6:30 AM

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Taiwan also has the death penalty for drug usage. Result: no drug problem.

As long as the US refuses to stop consumption,why should Mexico spend money and lives?

Reefhound

Feb 17, 2010, 6:44 AM

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Taiwan also has the death penalty for drug usage. Result: no drug problem.

As long as the US refuses to stop consumption,why should Mexico spend money and lives?

Sounds like a nifty way to murder someone - simply set them up to be busted for drugs. Slip a little acid in their food, plant a few pills in their car, phone in a tip...

Reefhound

Feb 17, 2010, 6:59 AM

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So are guns and explosives. And terrorism. And murder, rape, robbery, prostitution, pornography, and so on. Is the solution to those also to do away with laws against them?

Mexico has stong restrictions on private gun ownership yet there are more guns in Mexico now than ever before. Isn't it time that Mexico ends this futile War on Guns and ends these ineffective laws? Legalize them and tax them, make them available to anyone and everyone, then surely gun usage will go down...

However, it's a mistake to use the term "war", which is typically a short period of conflict that has a beginning and an end, a winner and a loser. It is really just another aspect of crime, which is a perpetual problem that has and always will exist.

tonyburton

Feb 17, 2010, 5:32 PM

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I deleted the last several posts on this thread prior to locking it since they added little of value to the discussion. Feel free to start another thread related to Mexico's "war" on drugs, but please respect not only other posters but also divergent views. Tony