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jasonnfree

Dec 28, 2009, 6:24 AM

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I haven't been south of Ensenada yet, but the dozen or 15 times I've been to Mexico it seems like the food tastes better there. Especially the carnitas with avocado sauce. I don't really like chorizo but I had some in a church orphanage ouside TJ I think the district was called Gloria and I couldn't get enough seems like. Maybe just cause it's Mexico? Anyway dozen's of taqurias in orange county not bad.
Anyway Happy New Year everyone both sob and nob. If you're sob and retired I'm sure you miss your family and grand children. God Bless all of you



Peter


Dec 28, 2009, 6:48 AM

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Happy holidays yourself, Jason. I am retired and living SOB in Michoacán but have no kids or much family, though talk to my mother regularly by phone. Too much time with her in-person is not good for either of us so it works well like this.

I believe you're right, the food tastes better here. My first trip here to this part of Mexico I flew into Guadalajara so I could visit the Chapala area on my way to Morelia. My first stop out of GDL airport I stopped in Chapala for breakfast of chorizo and eggs. It was a world of difference in the chorizo here. The whole previous day had been prep to travel, driving to Los Angeles and waiting in the airport, airline food, and by the time I reached Mexico my belly was all in disorder. That breakfast in Chapala straightened everything right out and I've felt better than ever since.

I believe the food and lifestyle here is much healthier. I expect I will live longer and have a happier life living here in Mexico. It has been a happy adventure. I wish you well.


Anonimo

Dec 28, 2009, 10:23 AM

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Overall, the vegetables, fruits and meats here are fresher than NOB. That's just one reason the food tastes better.

Saludos,
Anonimo


La Isla


Dec 28, 2009, 10:57 AM

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Overall, the vegetables, fruits and meats here are fresher than NOB. That's just one reason the food tastes better.


Not to mention the eggs, even the ones bought at a Superama in Mexico City.


Hound Dog

Dec 28, 2009, 4:51 PM

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Overall, the vegetables, fruits and meats here are fresher than NOB. That's just one reason the food tastes better.

You are good guy Anonimo but that is patently untrue if one lives in one of the more sophosticated areas of the United States such as the San Francisco Bay Area. The fruits, meats and vegetables in that area are so much better than anywhere I have been in Mexico, and I have been in many fine places in this country, that it is an absurdity to even posit such a false statement. I have never even remotely tasted a tomato in Mexico that holds a candle to fine heirloom tomatoes just off the vine in the Napa Valley. Looking beyond tomatoes, however, everything from great potatoes to parsnips to rutabagas to tender young radishes to fabulous greens to a thousand fine fruits and vegetables are rarely duplicated in Mexico.

In the U.S. the meats are almost always clearly superior to the point that it would be farsical to argue otherwise.

Of course, if you live in some Utah dunghole then you may have a point.

One must be self-delusional to even think of comparing the splendid organic fruits, vegetables and meats in parts of the United States with the cardboard, chemically poisonous, industrial farm products sold in Mexico whether in WalMart or your local rural municipal market or tianguis. To believe that the produce and meats here are superior to what is available in the best markets in the United States is the height of naivete.

I must add that fresh eggs are a joke in Mexico. There are no standards any Mexican egg merchant I know of uses to throw away an egg afer it has aged on the shelf forever except for select egg vendors I use in Chiapas and at Lakeside. Where the hell do you folks come up with the absurd idea that Mexican eggs are fresher than U.S. eggs. You are living in a false paradise fostered by unintended racism on your part because you think that semi-literate peasant farmer raises better eggs than Chedraui´s suppliers. Nonsense.


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Anonimo

Dec 28, 2009, 7:13 PM

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HD, I was posting from a very casual posture, using my iPod Touch, hence the lack of discriminating comment from me. I will readily yield in reference to tomatoes and beef. U.S. tomatoes do, depending on the season and their origin, taste much better than the ones we've had in Mexico. And of course, with a few exceptions, U.S. grade Choice beef is better than this morning's kill of grass range cattle.
I won't touch the subject of sweet corn.

Overall, the eggs we have had here are better than those we had in the U.S. Not a LOT better, just better.

As I rarely buy organic fruits and vegetables, that didn't figure into my off-hand post. Also, I was not a shopper at Balducci's or Whole Foods Market in the States, but usually at Kroger. Here we buy our meat at the local carnicerías. I confess that I usually have them grind it to my specs. The whole pieces of beef are difficult to get tender and I have recently purchased a pressure cooker, with hopes that it will produce tender results. But in the end, there is no substitute for grain fed, marbled beef.

For Christmas, we bought a whole, boned and rolled leg of pork at Costco. I'm fairly sure it was Mexican in origin. The results were very tender and savory after 5 1/2 hours of roasting and basting.

So, you are right in some aspects, but when making comparisons, one should compare manzanas to manzanas, not to naranjas.

Saludos,
Anonimo


Hound Dog

Dec 28, 2009, 7:31 PM

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A nice reply. Anonimo. Upon reflection, my response to you seemed a bit harsh in print so I want you to know that I did not mean my remarks to be so, have a lot of respect for your comments and hope you understand that. I suppose I was just missing some of that great U.S. beef and pork butt and those fabulous organic grocers in the San Francisco area. I don´t miss that cold winter rain in the Bay Area however. Everything is a trade off. We still get great produce in the San Cristóbal indigenous market. I´ll take that over those seasonal heirloom tomatoes. I think we both made the right decision in coming to Pátzcuaro and San Cristóbal respectively. I know I´ll never go back up there.


Anonimo

Dec 29, 2009, 3:47 AM

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No offense taken, HD.

Yes, moving here involves a trade-off.
In my reply, I forgot to mention that I was thinking more of the flavor of some of the vegetables we get in the Pátzcuaro mercado, especially the green beans, the green chard, and the sweet and tender beets, with a touch of mineral taste (those which are still small and young, in contrast to the cannonball sized beets we often see.) And, with few exceptions, the prices are low. Lately, white potatoes have been an exception, (and almost always starchy) at $26 pesos a kilo, IIRC, and garlic at a price per cuarto kg. that gives one pause. However, I can't cook without it. The garlic, however, is generally superior to those shriveled 3 heads in a little box we used to buy in Kroger's. Calabacitas have relatively more flavor here than their insipid zucchini counterparts NOB. I admit though, we don't buy them often.

Among the less worthy vegetables in the mercado are the ridiculously cheap locally grown cucumbers, at $5 pesos for 3 (or could be more) per kg. However, they are watery and over mature with coarse seeds and nearly flavorless. We prefer the pepinos criollos at Bodega Aurrerá, which though a peso apiece (!) have some snap and flavor.

By the way, we found some yellow lemons (Limones Reales) at Wal-Mart in Morelia last week, and though somewhat costly compared to the Mexican green limones, we indulged in a few to appreciate what we'd left behind. In the end, we prefer the Mexican limes.

I don't really want to get into another, "What we can or can't get here SOB." type discussion. I covered some of my philosophy on that theme in a recent blog post.
"When Mexico Hands You Limones...Make Limonada"

That's all I have to offer for now. I can't get into fruit just now, other than to mention that we get (usually) sweet juice oranges, delivered to our street, for $15 pesos for 5 kgs.
Que tenga un buen día.

Saludos,
Anonimo


carlw

Dec 29, 2009, 6:52 AM

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Maybe the biggest difference in US and Mexican products purchased in stores and markets is the time from harvest to being stocked in a store. Kroger is a perfect example. In many Mexican markets, fruit and vegetable items may be no more than a day or 2 removed from the field but in American markets the time difference could be a week or more. Products in US markets are refrigerated or even chemically treated to retard ripening. Finding a decent tomato is a difficult thing in the off-season and when you do find them, guess where they came from? Either South Texas or Mexico. Luckily, we do have Farmers' Markets as well as back yeards where, increasingly, folks are "growing their own."
 
 
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