South Dakota car registration

South Dakota car registration

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I'm looking for some recent information about registering a car in South Dakota. I've found some info, some recent, some a while ago. I'd like to hear of someone's recent experience in getting SD title and plates. Thank you in advance!

bournemouth

Dec 27, 2009, 6:59 AM

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Do remember that it is only one county, Clay County, that provides this service.

sioux4noff

Dec 27, 2009, 7:22 AM

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That was in the information I read. The original request still stands. Information about a recent personal experience would be invaluable, I beleive.

(This post was edited by sioux4noff on Dec 27, 2009, 7:23 AM)

raferguson

Dec 27, 2009, 8:45 AM

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You might look into the RV groups. Those RV owners who live full time in their RV need a legal domicile, if only for vehicle registration and driver's licences, and I believe that many of them choose South Dakota.

Richard

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Dec 27, 2009, 12:48 PM

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I don´t understand this. It is illegal for a resident of Mexico or of Mexico and another U.S. jurisdiction other than South Dakota to acquire South Dakota title and registration. Therefore, Clay County is illegally issuing South Dakota auto titles to residents of Mexico many of whom never ever set foot in that state. Who among you decries corruption in Mexico but pays some crook in South Dakota to issue you a South Dakota legal title and registration? I guess illegal acts are OK as long as it suits the "honorable" citizen. I think there is a word for that.

Rolly

Dec 27, 2009, 1:04 PM

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"I think there is a word for that."

I suspect you don't mean enterprising or even clever. Smile

Rolly

Dec 27, 2009, 1:52 PM

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Actually, I was thinking "shameless". I mean, who would drive around with license plates declaring one was from South Dakota or, much worse, "of" South Dakota.

That reminds me of an amusing comment I read a few years ago regarding the necessity of driving about with Idaho license plates. Imagine, wrote the commentator, here you have just spent a fortune buying a new fancy Mercedes Benz and there you are driving around in a car with a license plate that exclaims "FAMOUS POTATOES". The humiliation. The shame.

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arbon

Dec 27, 2009, 2:25 PM

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What happened to your Californian plates Dog.

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Dec 27, 2009, 3:01 PM

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What happened to your Californian plates Dog.

Two things. One; the Chrysler that could not cope with topes, was sold as a used car in San Antonio, TX. in 2005. The other, a Ford pickup, was sold to a Zapoteco friend in Santa Cruz, Huatulco where, to this day, it is used in his business down there. This guy and I rode to the border at Laredo where he bought it and legalized it and it now has Oaxaca plates. Since we are seeking inmigrado status shortly and then citizenship, we could not legally keep those California clunkers. Our only vehicle is now a Jalisco plated Nissan. Since we bought that car in 2004, we have never even once been harassed by the transitos anywhere in Mexico. When we drove our California plated car we were fish in a barrel inviting corrupt cops.

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Dec 27, 2009, 4:11 PM

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But, Hound Dog, here's the rub: Mexico courtesly permits NOB citizens to bring their cars here. The new Homeland Security Act is going to make it very difficult indeed to re-register your vehicle or driver's license if you can't prove a legal residence in the US. This presents a problem: we can't legalize or nationalize our US vehicles here in Mexico, but we also can't keep registering them in the US and some states are more fussy than others about these rules. I consider the Clay County Treasurer a briallian example of the exercise of civil disobediance. Besides that, the good folks of that county probably welcome the income.

Dec 27, 2009, 5:10 PM

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Well, now Georgia;

the thing about corruption is that everyone who takes advantage of official corruption always rationalizes their own corruption versus the corruption of others but it is still corruption and eventually that corruption corrupts the system of justice and that is why Mexico finds itself where it is today. I grew up in this corruption in Alabama in the 1940s and 1950s fueled by racist policies that always found a way to justify human injustice. Without outside interference it only gets worse.

Clay County is corrupt and the notion that these title and registration fees benefit the people of that dismal place is absurd. As in corrupt political jurisdictions from Lagos to Pyongyang, corruption benefits those in power and their sycophants and to posit otherwise is dishonest.

People living in Mexico and utilizing Clay County´s corrupt registrar for their own convenience while criticizing Mexican corruption are the worst sort of hypocrites. Do as you wish but do not presume you hold the high moral ground.

Do not bullshit The Dawg,

Dec 27, 2009, 5:29 PM

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I wouldn't think of bullshitting the Dawg. I find the Mexican corruption to be democratic. The closest thing to democratic corruption in the US is Clay County. Normally, in the US, corruption is reserved for the very wealthy or well connected.

But that is not my point: it is this: the brain dead beaurocrats in the US have made it almost impossible for ex pats and rv'ers to be law abiding citizens. We are disenfranchised. We will not be able to renew our driver's licenses, get US license plates for our cars, or insure them in the US. We can vote, however. How droll. WE can vote in the state we last lived in, but we can't renew our licenses to drive there or register our cars there ... for various bureauocratic reasons.

Pardon misspellings and typos. I lost my vision in the last couple of weeks to macular degeneration and the surgery doesn't seem to hae worked too well. Knew it was coming ... but it's a bitch anyway. Makes the business of renewing my driver's license a moot point. But I still can't register my car in NY or Texas even if I wanted to hire a driver. And I sure can't register it in Mexico, can I?

Dec 27, 2009, 5:53 PM

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Well made points Georgia. The reason I fume at this Clay County debacle is that, simply because we live in Mexico and have no U.S. address, we cannot open a bank checking account up there nor open a credit card account unless I already had them when I got here despite the fact that we had perfect credit over 40 years before moving here and I´m a U.S.citizen . That all has to do with the Patriot Act. Yet, this county clerk in the middle of nowhere is able to thumb her nose at U.S. and South Dakota law and get away with it. Any radical Islamic functionary with a U.S. purchased car who wanted to could get South Dakota plates to drive freely around the U.S. thanks to some two bit county clerk who openly flaunts the law but I cannot open a frigging checking account at a U.S. bank even among my friends because of U.S. law.

We can see how effective U.S. and international laws are by what happened yesterday on that plane from Amsterdam to Detroit. What gross incompetence.

Reefhound

Dec 27, 2009, 6:00 PM

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Did you not disenfranchise yourself? Become a legal resident where you live, buy a car where you live, register it where you live. State registrations and licenses were never meant for registering vehicles or licensing drivers that lived outside the state. Otherwise we would have a nation where everyone registered and licensed wherever it was cheapest and easiest. State registration and licensing requirements would be easily circumvented.

Can you get a post office box? I think that has been used in some states to maintain legal residency. Or incorporate a business name?

chinagringo

Dec 27, 2009, 6:08 PM

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Well HD up until last week 36 States were out of compliance with the Real ID Act with their drivers licenses and as of January 1st, people from those States were not going to be allowed to use their drivers license as ID to board an airplane. They would only be able to comply using a U.S. Passport. Now, we are not talking international flights here! At the very last minute, they finally announced that the deadline would be extended to May of 2011.

People have thought for years that one needed a Passport to visit NM since it wasn't part of the United States. In fact a number of years ago the New Mexico Tourism Department actually produced a NM Passport for travel to the State as a spoof!
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM

Dec 27, 2009, 6:45 PM

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To repeat:
If you move here from, say, New York State, where you have to show New York State insurance, car inspection and address to renew your license, you can not keep your car legally registered if you move to Mexico. You can vote there. Actually, that is your "home state" for voting purposes. But you can't register your car there. If you don't register your car, you lose your driver's license. So, you move to Mexico:you can't register your car here either, but you can import it legally.

This puts people in a difficult position if they ever want to drive to the US. Fortunately, (or unfortunately, as the case may be) we have ten children. So we use the address of one of our daughters as our US address for banking, registration of auto, and credit card purposes.

I don't think most retirees would sign up for the ten children approach to resolving the dilemma. One kid will do, but they have to have a stable job.

chinagringo

Dec 27, 2009, 6:51 PM

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I wouldn't even sign up for the one kid approach! Neither of us had any kids and life is a great deal more simple and certainly less restrictive! Now no one gets to tell us where or where we should not go.
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Neil
Albuquerque, NM

Dec 27, 2009, 6:55 PM

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By the way, Hound Dog, speaking as one who knows from very personal experience, if a terrorist REALLY wants to bring down a plane it is remarkably easy to do. Trust me on this. My personal theory is that the past two bumbled and ludicrous attempts by the infamous shoe bomber (he should have put the explosives in his nose, more room there than in his sneakers) and this week's inept Nigerian bomber were never intended to bring down those planes. Just scare the crap out of travelers and disrupt the vacation travel. Take our eyes off the prize.

Did you ever notice that on flights out of Mexico to the US we don't normally all take our shoes off?? What do you think that is all aout? PR in the US. I'm surprised the airlines haven't raised a stink about it.

Meanwhile our ally, Great Britain, exchanges the Lockerbie bomber after seven years in jail for killing 270 people, in exchange for British Petroleum to get lucrative oil drilling rights in Libya.

I know, off topic.

Dec 27, 2009, 6:58 PM

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Oh, my approach has always been to tell them where to go ... they just don't do it. But they don't move back home either. Guess it's my cooking.

Reefhound

Dec 27, 2009, 7:34 PM

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"If you don't register your car, you lose your driver's license."

Since when did car ownership become a requirement for a drivers license? I know lots of people with a drivers license who do not own a car.

When I flew out of Cancun airport last month, we had to take off our shoes.

johanson

Dec 27, 2009, 9:04 PM

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In Reply To

By the way, Hound Dog, .................................

Did you ever notice that on flights out of Mexico to the US we don't normally all take our shoes off?? What do you think that is all aout? PR in the US. I'm surprised the airlines haven't raised a stink about it.

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I know, off topic.

Continuing off topic. They have tightened up in Mexico since what happened in Detroit. No I didn't have to take my shoes off on Dec 26th, but they inspected my checked bag much closer and then at the gate I even had to start my computer up to show the security guy that it was a computer not a bomb. I wonder how long they will continue to check this close

now ON TOPIC, I only drive in Mexico with my Texas plated car that I haven't been able to update since 2005. No problems so far from anyone in Mexico.

Dec 28, 2009, 6:39 AM

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We drove two vehicles with expired California plates for years down here and it was never an issue with our car insurance issued by AXA, never an issue with the transit poilce and not an issue when we acquired Jalisco driver´s licenses.

It became an issue when I went to San Antonio to sell one of the cars to Carmax who refused to buy the car since when they checked with the California DMV they were told that I owed the DMV money for failing to renew my registration for several years even though I never set foot in Caifornia after the spring of 2001. So, I went down to the Texas DMV and registered my car without transferring title to Texas using the Texas address of MBE at Lakeside where I was renting a box at the time. I took the car back to Carmax with Texas tags and sold the car to them without a problem signing over my California legal title to them. I could have driven all over the U.S. with those Texas plates.

Now we only have Jalisco plates and since getting Mexico plates we have never been hit up for mordida and we have been driving the car we bought in Guadalajara since Jaunuary, 2004.

Jerry@Ajijic

Dec 28, 2009, 8:15 AM

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Dawg, you mean that you told those people in Texas that your residence was in Texas (MBE address) when you really lived in Mexico......SHAME

Dec 28, 2009, 9:52 AM

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It's complicated and I gave a short cut version. In NYYS you must 1. insure, inspect and register your car. 2. If it's not inspected, you must turn in your icense plates. 3. If you don't turn them in your driver's license is revoked. 4. In Mexico you have to keep the plates on your car.

This means that once a year you would have to drive to NY, have your car inspected, insured and reregistered to keep the plates and you license, when you move to MExico. Since you have no other home state, what is your option? There is only one: see your car and buy one here. But that means you can't drive down with your "stuff." It gets very complicated.

That is why, as former NYS residents, we registered our car in Texdas, insure it there, and have Texas driver's licenses, alleging we make our home with our daughter in Texas.

All this happiness will end this fall when we obtain imigrado status, gift our car to our granddaughter and her husband, and buy a Mexican plated car.

Reefhound

Dec 28, 2009, 10:02 AM

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