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TlxcalaClaudia

Sep 23, 2009, 1:40 PM

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I have been so sick practically all of this year.

Symptoms started last year when I was still in Mexico and became unbearable by Jan. of this year. Not even diarrhea appeared, so don't count on that to let you know you have a bug. I'm talking heart palpitations, itchy skin and tremors. I had to quit teaching this year over it because of extreme fatigue. I was tested for parasites; I am so full of bugs (4 different types) that now I have to see a tropical disease specialist. My case was reported to CDC (as will anyone's with parasites like these) because I have parasites not common for USA unless a traveler to 3rd world areas.

Seriously, please don't make smart arse remarks about this. It has been a depressing year on my health and family. I'm just warning anyone here who wants to know what they should consider to monitor while living in Mexico. Many of you probably already knew this...but in case some didn't, here is the advice now. Get checked and do ask about anti-parasitic meds common for your area. In Hidalgo where I lived, they routinely gave out meds to school children each year for parasites because parasitic eggs are in the dust. It is dusty there and when the dust blows around, people inhale it. I got the meds my 1st year there, but not my 2nd...and when I returned NOB it has been pure hell because no one thought to look for "these" parasites here NOB even when I told them I had been to Mexico. Had I remained in MX, I bet my Dr there would have suspected to test for it earlier. Treatment for these bugs was harsh too. The drugs to kill them made me so sick I couldn't get out of bed for 3 days. Believe me, prevention is better.


Claudia



sioux4noff

Sep 23, 2009, 3:43 PM

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Thanks for the good advice. I hope you are feeling much better.


tashby


Sep 24, 2009, 9:26 AM

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So sorry to hear about your trouble. How awful. Thanks for warning/advice. Hope you're better soon.


Bethie

Sep 24, 2009, 9:46 AM

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I am truly sorry to hear about this. I hope that you feel better soon and that more people will become informed becuase of you posting this. Please be healthy soon.


TlxcalaClaudia

Sep 24, 2009, 6:55 PM

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Thanks for the words everyone. Those who know me in person know I usually have much energy and am bubbly. Changing into someone with a dark mood all the time is not who I want to be. I will see the tropical disease specialist next week. I just finished one round of antibiotics and may have to take more. I'll keep everyone posted. So far no change or improvements.

I would not change my mind about going to Mexico. I fully intend to go back one day. I'll be more careful with this issue though and will speak to my Dr there about it.

C.


mexliving

Sep 24, 2009, 9:39 PM

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there is a pill that you take every 6 months..... you can also give one to your pet... you cant drink soft drinks just water.....


Axixic


Sep 25, 2009, 2:47 AM

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What's the name of the medicine?


IslaZina


Sep 25, 2009, 3:48 AM

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Here around Cancun, we take a drug called Daxon. It is broad spectrum for both amoebas and common parasites and is one pill, one day. Amoebas and parasites used to be two tablets, three days. We take it once a year, about now! With global warming, twice might be better, eh?
http://islazina@blogspot.com


Axixic


Sep 25, 2009, 5:16 AM

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Here around Cancun, we take a drug called Daxon. It is broad spectrum for both amoebas and common parasites and is one pill, one day. Amoebas and parasites used to be two tablets, three days. We take it once a year, about now! With global warming, twice might be better, eh?


Thanks for the reply. I looked it up and the generic name is Nitazoxanide for anyone who wants to find it in areas not using the name Daxon. It looks like a medication that can help and won't hurt to take a few times a year. I've been lucky so far in not getting an amoeba and I mean lucky because I am not that careful about where I have eaten out, and I know people who are careful but still get infected. It also treats a wide variety of parasites.


gpkgto

Sep 25, 2009, 8:09 AM

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Going to a doctor in Mexico is very inexpensive--let the doctor prescribe the correct medicine and dosage. Self-medicating is a particularly bad idea with gastric problems since there are about a million possible causes.


esperanza

Sep 25, 2009, 8:33 AM

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Most of my Mexican friends take Vermox twice a year. It's a one tablet/one day treatment. We've started the same regime.

Vermox is available at any pharmacy, including at Wal-Mart and Costco.

http://www.mexicocooks.typepad.com









Carron

Sep 25, 2009, 9:02 AM

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When I lived in Chiapas, Vermox was also the drug of choice. Then it was the "123" medicine: 1 pill 2 times a day for 3 days. Also done religiously every six months. The locals also took a round of antibiotics every 6 months as well. We did it and have no reason to think it didn't work for us.


bournemouth

Sep 25, 2009, 9:20 AM

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Does Vermox handle both parasites and amoebas? It is such a simple thing - one tablet every six months - but I'd like to thing everything is covered.


gpkgto

Sep 25, 2009, 10:54 AM

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I am always amazed that people (not you--Claudia--this is a general reply) who would not cut their own hair or try to replumb their house will risk their health by going to a farmacia armed with only internet information. Go to a doctor first--self-medicating can lead to even more serious complications as well as making the offending "bugs" stronger.

Here's one example from a PV website--I know this is not the same as Claudias situation--just an example:

Posted by: "Gary R Beck" garyrbeck1@yahoo.com garyrbeck1
Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:05 am (PDT)
I arrived home with Bill at 3:30pm yesterday and Tik had filled the fridge though all food taste like chemical due to 12 new antibiotics I am on for 2 weeks to wipe out the bacterial infection called H Pylori which nearly killed me. I again express my profound thanks and appreciation to all of you dear people. Every single one lifted my spirits, except one from a local club owner, though I could read Tik's posts printups slowly time to time.

I developed this bacteria and resulted in at least one duodenal ulcer. Stupidly I ignored it all [I know, Keith!] and waited to get better. I finally emailed Bill saying my pain was bad. He took me by taxi to San Javier Hospital. That is the last I remember until after a week here when I opened my eyes and a lady asked me if I knew where I was. I said No and she said San Francisco. I said that's good because I live here. She said it was Kaiser and I was very ill. I stayed awhile in ICU, no fun no sleep no food, then moved 3 times but met a ton of fun people I would like to see under different circumstances. I ate soft and liquid food Mon., solid food Tue and Wed, home Thur.

I also appreciate posts which said let's do what Gary woud desire and discuss matter PV. I applaud you for moving on and away from my illnes. Great decision. But I wanted to post here so all know the facts and how I am. There was no alcohol, most of you know I do not drink, no street boys or beatings or robberies. Far from it. I got really sick and was eventually airlifted out of PV. Leslie took hold of my 2 older brothers who flew in immediately [one is a doctor] and Bill did stupendous work n my behalf I will never be able to repay. Tik took over the updates with my family's permission and I am forver grateful to this fine woman, too. I had her access my Yahoo and approve members and messages but I fear some of you may have sent a message and it never showed as Yahoo only keeps them 14 days. I apologize, resubmit. Many others helped as Tim, Keith and Pam at the hospital and I seriously cannot name you all all as I was unconscious for 2 weeks.

But one thing, your posts were a miracle in themselves. I had no idea I had so many people in my life, no car, no way. It continues to touch me deeply.

So let's keep me from now on in private emails. I wlll answer as I have strength but in the last 2 weeks I have come so very far even the doctors applauded me.

New song by Whitney Huston I head Tues on Oprah and it talked to me dramaticlly:
'I didn't know I had the strength'
[she after 14 years of wife and drug abuse, getting her act toghther.]

It is never to late.

On to PV!!!


Gary

San Francisco, CA./Puerto Vallarta, JAL.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Puerto_Vallarta_OldTown_SouthSide

Beck's Best Restaurant Guide:
www.cafepress.com/vallartaguide

http://www.pvrpv.com/propertyDetails.php?id=437



(This post was edited by gpkisner on Sep 25, 2009, 11:20 AM)


TlxcalaClaudia

Sep 25, 2009, 11:45 AM

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Go to a doctor first--self-medicating can lead to even more serious complications as well as making the offending "bugs" stronger.

I completely agree about seeing a Dr over self-medicating. (The person who offered me meds during my 1st and 2nd yrs there was a school Dr. but I refused it the 2nd year. School Dr's give it out routinely to school children and faculty/staff. I only wish I had accepted.)

It is too high of a risk to go buy the antibiotics on your own because when the antibiotics start making you sick (like they did me), what are you going to do? Better to let a Dr advise this one. One belief is that as the antibiotics kill the parasites, the deterioration of the bugs releases toxins. So some say it isn't the drug making one sick, but the result of killing the parasites that makes you sick. I was on the antibiotic for 10 days, but extremely sick for the first 3 days. Anyway, it was a bit scary for me and I was glad I had my Dr involved every step of the way. When he saw how sick I was by day 4, he cut me back to taking the pill 3 times a day instead of 4. That helped. So things like this really do need a Dr's intervention. I would have probably stopped the med completely if I were doing it alone because of how awful I felt.


(This post was edited by TlxcalaClaudia on Sep 25, 2009, 11:51 AM)


esperanza

Sep 25, 2009, 2:04 PM

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Does Vermox handle both parasites and amoebas? It is such a simple thing - one tablet every six months - but I'd like to thing everything is covered.

Read all about it here:
http://www.rxlist.com/vermox-drug.htm

http://www.mexicocooks.typepad.com









yucatandreamer


Sep 25, 2009, 2:20 PM

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My husband have taken Vermox on a regular basis however we both recently tested positive for H Pylori and when we were in Chiapas in May we, and my visiting daughter, all ended up with cyclosporiasis, a really evil parasite. I wouldn't put my trust in Vermox unless you have worms. It has no effect on H Pylori because I have had that for a long time I suspect. Also you will probably know if you get cyclosporiasis(similar to giardia) because you will be really sick.


TlxcalaClaudia

Sep 25, 2009, 4:08 PM

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Wow. Is it too much to go into detail? WHat exactly happened to you when you all came down with cyclosporiasis? IF you don't want to tell all here...maybe private email?
Claudia


IslaZina


Sep 25, 2009, 4:33 PM

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Here on the island, it's not considered self medication. It's like standing orders to do it once a year toward the end of rainy season.
http://islazina@blogspot.com


Axixic


Sep 25, 2009, 4:41 PM

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Interesting and yet creepy site for herbal treatments for various parasites.

http://www.appliedozone.com/parasites.html


Axixic


Sep 25, 2009, 4:47 PM

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Since most of these diseases are spread from ingestion of feces, I think I'd avoid a discussion of whatever I had in polite company. In other words, UGH.

I think I will start being more careful.


Hound Dog

Sep 25, 2009, 5:26 PM

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The Helicobacter Pylo is a pretty comon bacteria found in the stomach. It was discovered in 1996 and may be the cause for ulcers and stomach cancer.

The bacteria can be caught by eating unwashed fruit and produce. I do not think it is connected to feces but I did not look into it.
The cure is 1 or 2 weeks of 4 different antibiotics twice a day. They have some bad side effects on some people.
If you have stomach problems check the Foundation site at www.helico.com

I just finished two weeks of the treatment and it is nasty. After that you get on a 3 month treatment. I have not had the pleasure yet to see what these do but the first set was bad enough. Many people have the bacteria with no ill effect and some have problems. I guess it depends on your system. The symptoms are acid reflux, heartburn and getting worst as you develop an ulcer or worst.
This is not connected to Mexico, I probably got mine in France .


judithnpups


Sep 25, 2009, 5:35 PM

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It looks like Vermox is just for treating worms (four types.)
Judith in the DF (formerly in Morelia)


Brigitte Ordoquy

Sep 26, 2009, 6:57 AM

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As Judith says it is for worms.
It does not protect you for amoebas

When I was growing up in France one of my grand mother who had been raised high up in the Pyrenees on a farm used to blame everything on worms.. When at her house we had to take a spoonful of Cod liver oil where she had been marinating garlic for ever. We hated it and I still remember it. She would chop off the end of the tails of the kitten at birth as these were worm carier and so on. We also had to take Vermox et..

Wake up everybody listen to Claudia :Do not take any medecine unless you know what you have. I have been here for close to 10 years and never had worms but my husband did.
Get checked once a year for parasites
Different people response differently to bugs but if you live long enough in a subtropical or tropical developping country you will get something eventually.
All these bugs including amoebas were comon in France in the 40s and 50s as well. Get check once a year for parasites

Some people can be asymptomatic and others get very ill it depends on your system not on some folk medecine.

The paper in Chiapas published a research they did on parasites. The majority of the indigenous living in the country have an average of 7 different parasites. The Mayas are famous for their medecine so think how many they would have if it were not for all the teas and herbs they are taking...
Taking antibiotics without a doctor advice is asking for problems. The more antibiotics you take and the most likely the bugs will become imune to that antibiotic . You are not helping yourself or the rest of the population by self medicating.


TlxcalaClaudia

Sep 26, 2009, 6:59 AM

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There was one particular med like that in Hidalgo too. It was not a treatment "FOR INFECTION" but maybe for INFESTATION before any infection took place. And pretty much anyone in each school child's family could walk up to the school Dr to order their vial of liquid, anti-parasitic meds or go to the pharmacist. I think that still counts as being under Dr care. If there was an adverse reaction, any Dr. in town would know what is going on since everyone was being offered to take it.


(This post was edited by TlxcalaClaudia on Sep 26, 2009, 7:04 AM)
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