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BobC

Sep 11, 2009, 8:14 AM

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My wife, Sharon, and I are driving down from Canada to the Lake Chapala area in early November. We are really looking forward to our first time there.

When Sharon was down there on reconnaissance earlier this year, she was given a business card by an agent with Parker Insurance Services who said that if we emailed her, we could set up Mexican car insurance before we left home and pay when we got there.

We have emailed her but received no response.

Does anyone know anything about this agency? Is there another email address we could write to? Maybe this lady has left.

As a backup, we understand we can buy insurance from AAA in Texas on our way down. Would this be for six months or just a few days? If for six months, is it likely to be significantly more expensive than getting it in Mexico?

Has anyone any general advice in this regard--or any other alternatives to suggest?

Many thanks!



bournemouth

Sep 11, 2009, 8:25 AM

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Check with Mexico Bob - Bob Acosta, San Xavier Insurance, Nogales, Arizona. He writes coverage for many, many folks - mexicobob@aol.com or http://www.mexican-autoinsurance.com/ . Six month policies are often cheaper than short term ones, and 1 year policies provide the best value. You can buy your coverage on line.

As an aside, Mexicans are often not good at replying to emails, and phoning is the way to get in touch with them. Some years back when we were looking for quotes on house and health insurance, I emailed Parkers at least twice and never got a response. I bought the insurance elsewhere.


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BobC

Sep 11, 2009, 9:07 AM

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Many thanks. I suspected it might be something like that. Having worked internationally, I know that different cultures have different priorities, so am not surprised. A colleague who had worked in Colombia told me that the most frustrating thing when he first went there was the constant sound of telephones ringing! Then he discovered that the attitude there was that you only answered a phone if you absolutely, positively had nothing else to do! (I guess the assumption was that if someone had something really important to tell you, they would come and see you. He said that once you got used to the idea, it was very liberating! Same thing goes for emails, I guess.

We will probably be contacting Mexican Bob as you suggest.

Again, Muchas Gracias


RickS


Sep 11, 2009, 9:32 AM

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There are many providers of vehicle insurance for Mexico. Bournemouth has given you one that I have used a couple of times. Didn't have to use it (no claims) so can't vouch for how that might go, but did like Bob Acosta's service prior to and during the sale. Bournemouth has referred to him as Mexico Bob.

Just to give you one more place for 'comparative shopping', try: https://www.nelsoninternationalgroup.com/policyblaster/index.php This firm is touted by the famous (infamous?) Mexico Mike (seems these guys like to attach themselves to Mexico whenever they can :>) and seemingly gives good service before and after the sale. Just another option to check out.


BobC

Sep 11, 2009, 9:47 AM

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Thanks a million, Rick. As you say, one more to try.

Bob


richmx2


Sep 11, 2009, 10:28 AM

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There are plenty of insurance companies to chose from... simply type "Mexican auto insurance" in your search engine of choice and make a selection. If you're planning a long stay, you might want to check once you're settled on a local agent, and change the policy, but I wouldn't put the cart before the burro.


http://mexfiles.net
http://voiceofmexico.com
http://editorialmazatlan.com


chinagringo


Sep 11, 2009, 5:51 PM

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Two avenues that we have used:
1) If you are a COSTCO member, you can check out their Mexico Auto Insurance through a link they provide on their web site.
2) We have used www.mexadventure.com many times. Everything is done online and we always opt for the "Platinum" or "Premier" package that provides Roadside Assistance and best of all, Health Coverage that includes flying any member home in the case of serious injury or illness.

Did have a claim a number of years back for towing and such and they did not delay payment what-so-ever!
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



mexliving

Sep 11, 2009, 11:00 PM

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i use san xavier out of arizona.... 250.00 for 6 months coverage auto value 15,000 dollars.


BobC

Sep 12, 2009, 7:33 AM

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Many thanks to everyone who replied for all your help. I'm sure we will be fine now.

I actually did run a Google search, but, as one might expect there were a ton of hits and I wasnt even sure where to start or who was legitimate. Using this source put me on to several people who I at least know are legit.

This is a really great source of information. I'm sure we will use it again.

Again, thanks a lot.

Bob


Moisheh

Sep 13, 2009, 7:07 PM

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First Canadians with a Costco card are not eligible for that insurance. There is not as posted " a lot to choose from". Most agents are not agents. They simply sign up online to sell policies. Most of these policies come from an agent in Scottsdale. Name something like International Insurance. If you have a problem neither the real agent nor the seller will be of any help. You can identify those sellers as they all use the same quote software and offer a choice of 5 or 6 companies. One of the best real agents is Lewis and Lewis. They have higher Liability amounts and excellent prices. I have used them for almost 20 years. I have had claims and they were all handled well. Better service and prices than Mexico Bob. Buyer beware.

Moisheh


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BobC

Sep 14, 2009, 5:30 AM

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Many thanks for that tip, Moishe. I see exactly what you are getting at.

Bob


MazGuy


Sep 14, 2009, 6:03 AM

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I might suggest that you carefully read the fine print of any Mexican Insurance policy, we had the unfortunate experience of buying a policy that had a clause that "in the event of an accident this policy is cancelled"!!

It took several weeks of complaining to the Mexican authorities before we were able to get our claim paid. Needless to say we found a local agent here in Mazatlan who found us a carrier who does not have any such clause.


BobC

Sep 14, 2009, 6:45 AM

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Now, isn't that the classic "Catch 22" clause?? It would be really funny if the potential consequences were not so serious!

I will definitely watch out for this one... Thanks a lot.

Bob


Moisheh

Sep 14, 2009, 7:08 AM

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We, from NOB, are used to a regulated insurance industry. Although Mexican Auto Insurance is regulated to some extent, tourist insurance is the wild west. You do not need a license to sell the product and companies design the policies to benefit them not us! Example: If you are driving down the road and rocks strike both your windshield and a side window that is considered 2 claims with 2 deductibles!!! If you read the fine print on some policies there are 2 deductibles in case of a total loss. One is quite high. Some of the adjusters are free lancers. They get paid for good performance. That translates to paying out as little as possible. And of course the inevitable corruption often enters into negotiations . I also wonder if the on line agents pay taxes in either country?? One of the reasons I stick with Lewis and Lewis is that I have met Jim Lewis. They are a bricks and mortar company. The policies they sell were designed by them and I think it is an excellent product. I am sure they are one of the 2 largest sellers of Tourist insurance. They buy the policies direct from the Insurance companies not a middle man.


Moisheh


BobC

Sep 14, 2009, 7:46 AM

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Thanks, again. All the more reason to be careful. A Canadian down there suggested that we keep some Canadian insurance on the car as well--the same kind of coverage you would put on it if it were parked in the garage. That may be why--to make up for any shortfall in the payout down there. I will discuss that with our broker here to see what that might do for us.

Bob


Moisheh

Sep 14, 2009, 10:06 AM

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Sorry but your Canadian insurance is not valid in Mexico.

Moisheh


BobC

Sep 14, 2009, 3:59 PM

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Thanks. I knew that, but there is apparently some advantage to keeping the car partially insured--perhaps it is to maintain the policy so I don't have to start from scratch. I'm not sure what the advantage might be, but will discuss it with my agent.

In any case, I assume that I can get a "no claims" letter from the insurer when we leave. That will be important up here as we were living overseas and had to start all over here, so we are still working our way down towards the lowest rate. Six months without a claim will be worth quite a bit of money in premium reduction.


Moisheh

Sep 14, 2009, 4:30 PM

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BobC:

I think you need to learn a little about Mexican Auto Insurance. I have been assuming you do not live full time in Mexico and will be spending a short time here. Perhaps less than 6 months. Rates have nothing to do with your driving record. They are based on the value of your vehicle. I would recommend either an annual or a 6 month policy as they are cheaper than say a 100 day policy. ( dont ask). Go online and get the NADA value for your auto ( USA$). Do not insure it for more as they only pay mid price NADA or Blue book. I would recommend a full coverage policy wih as much liablility as is offered. There are no Million dollar liability policies. Make sure you have legal coverage. This will keep you out of jail if you have an accident. If you call Lewis and Lewis they can advise. Their toll free # works out of Canada.

Good luck

Moisheh


BobC

Sep 14, 2009, 4:46 PM

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Thanks, moisheh, I think I've more or less got the Mexican insurance figurered out. As you correctly guessed, we'll be down there for only five months and then I have to get Canadian insurance when I come back. So I have to do things in such a way that I don't cause my Canadian insurance to go up--hence the desire to be able to show them that (if true), I had no claims while I was in Mexico. With that, I should actually be paying several hundred a year less than I do now.

Bob


chinagringo


Sep 14, 2009, 5:12 PM

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Every time we have purchased Mexico auto insurance, we have had to provide the company and policy # of an active policy in the U.S. I would assume that may be the same with Canadian plated vehicles.
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



BobC

Sep 14, 2009, 5:28 PM

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Yes, thanks. I'm sure that would be the case. And we certainly don't want to cancel our Canadian insurance until we are actually across the Mexican border.

Bob


mazbook1


Sep 14, 2009, 6:38 PM

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Neil, That's just a rule the company you used has. There are quite a number of companies that don't have this rule, otherwise those who live here full time with FM2s or FM3s would have to pay for U.S. or Canadian insurance besides their Mexican insurance, and that's just not the case. It's actually one of the big savings for those who live full time in México and don't use their vehicle to go back and forth.


RickS


Sep 14, 2009, 8:02 PM

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Well, BobC has probably gotten more information that he suspected he might with his original post!

Couple of more thoughts.... I have used Lewis & Lewis and San Xavier ( Bob Acosta mentioned by bournemouth above) a couple of times each dating back to 2002. Fortunately I have not had any claims so I can't address what might happen with either should that occur, but I have seen 'testimonials' of good service from both these providers.

BTW, neither of them asked about/required me to have a US policy (which of course I did). I found it very easy to get a quote from either of them on-line. And as I recall their respective 6-month policies were very comparable in cost.

What made me change to Bob Acosta's insurance, aside from the fact that I have a friend who knows Bob and Helen, is that their policy includes coverage at "NO" extra cost, under the Travel Assistance portion of their policy, for Emergency Medical Transportation by SkyMed! For those of you who aren't completely familiar with SkyMed, see: http://www.skymed.com/acosta
I was initially dubious that they could/would include that great service gratis, but I checked it out and sure enough it is/they do.

The addition of that service, and all it entails, gives me peace of mind that if I had to be evacuated back to the US, it would be to my home town (not a border town hospital), my spouse would/could accompany me AND my car/RV would be driven back from Mexico to my home by a professional driver.


BobC

Sep 15, 2009, 5:55 AM

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Hi, Rick:

Yes, information overload... I posted the same question on another site as well, so sometimes felt like the man with two watches who never knows what time it is!

Bottom line is that it seems to come down to between Lewis and Lewis and Bob Acosta-- plus we will probably also phone the agent in Chapala that we originally tried to email. Then we can look at cost, who the actual insurer is, and any extras such as the SkyMed deal you mention (and you were the first to mention this one). SkyMed probably wouldnt take either or both of us back to Canada, but they should at least be able take us as far as upstate New York. It's only an hour or so from here to Watertown, for example.

Thanks a lot for this particular tip.

Bob


RickS


Sep 15, 2009, 8:27 AM

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SkyMed does include coverage for Canadian customers.....
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