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Oscar2

May 9, 2009, 11:51 AM

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Today I suspended my Verizon cell phone usage in favor of buying and subscribing to the Metro PCS in the USA. One gets “Unlimited Minuets and text messaging” for $38.00 a month with NO long-term contract. For $5.00 more a month, you can now call Mexico landlines “Unlimited” from the USA. With the Mexico plan, total is $43.00 a month plus tax.

I must add I absolutely love the “Unlimited” aspect of this plan. I call Mexico now and can speak 24/7 for 5 bucks more a month without sweating it. Very Cool!



Brian

May 10, 2009, 6:26 AM

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It seems that the coverage in the USA is a bit spotty. I wanted to look into the plan and it said no coverage in Austin,TX. Austin isn't that small a city. Maybe this plan is OK if you only stay at home where it is available but would be unreliable for traveling.


Oscar2

May 10, 2009, 10:08 AM

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Spottiness will probably exist for a while but like most other new up and coming companies Metro seems to be making its mark. In most major cities where connection and reception is good, something I’ve never seen before is occurring. Lines, yes lines of new customers have to pick a number and sit down and wait until their turn comes up to sign on as new customers. I was literally amazed! You just don’t see those kind of lines at Sprint, Verizon and the like.

Its true in some outlying areas I hear of a bit of spottiness, but in good areas such as mine I haven’t had the drop outs some may have. But Unlimited calling is very, very sweet, I can always call back hummmmting times without stressing myself out about using up my minuets. I now call any major city in Mexico and talk or be put on hold, as long as I want “anytime of the day I want” UNLIMITED, WOW! The buzz is, “MINUETS” may be a thing of the past….

There was a piece on the news yesterday about most major cell phone companies having to come to grips with this upsurge in Unlimited Calling sweep across the nation and are frantically revamping there policies to beat out the competion and meet the ever threatening loss of profits to the likes of Metro and others on the horizon.

Verizon, didn’t want to lose me and just last week tried to pull me back in by announcing they now have in place a new domestic and international plan which now includes Mexico for everyone, as an option. But Metro’s rates are still edging them out. I predict in the next six months a very big shake-out is in the offing and rates will drop precipitously where perhaps even Metro will have to rethink a new strategy to put pressure on the big boys!

I love this competition, where lets hang in there and wait looms while we catch some of the perks which may just fall our way, its about time….Yes!

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May 10, 2009, 10:48 AM

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I always get suspicious when things seem too good to be true. It sure would be great though, if things turn out as suggested on their webpage Shown below is their coverage map
Ihttp://www.metropcs.com/coverage/

I didn't look too hard but it would be interesting to know if for that price you could call any number anywhere in Mexico to include cell phones. Often VoIP carriers quote cheap prices to "Mexico" which is how you say "Mexico City" in Spanish but the prices go way up for other cities and when calling a Mexican Cell phone. As you learn more please keep on posting. I just think it's too good to be true


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Oscar2

May 10, 2009, 11:48 AM

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Johanson, my sentiments exactly. I toiled with this edgy issue for a while too, but the list of every major city and some surrounding smaller cities was on the one page list which I’ll scan and post for informational purposes. The Mexico major city list “does not” include cell phones.

So prior to me suspending my 4-year $120.00 Verizon monthly charge for the North American Plan, I judiciously made or got “land line” lists needed to make my necessary contacts. My other alternative if it’s a small city not on the Metro list is to use Magic Jack where Land line calls to Ajijic is .03 cents a minute from the USA.

I know, I know, it just sounds too good to be true but I'm using it, and its working. Verizon's new less expensive offerings are the first entry from the big guys I’m aware of that are downscaling prices and offering more services for the buck, but still not quite as good as its compitition. If anyone else hears anything, I too would appreciate a heads-up.

I almost forgot, there is no Contract, period. You can cancel and start up again anytime you want for a $15.00 reconnect fee. Beats the heck out of a 2 year mandatory contract any day!

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johanson / Moderator


May 10, 2009, 12:21 PM

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It sounds great Oscar. Guadalajara is on the list of the many cities you can call in that plan. Sadly those area codes along Lake Chapala are not.

What happens when you are in Mexico? I presume if you are in one of the listed cities, you can call the states for free. How about if you are for example in Chapala which is not listed as one of the cities. How much extra does it cost to phone the states per minute?

And the one thing that keeps me from getting a US cell phone is.. What happens if your neighbor in say Ajijic wants to call you? Does he have to phone long distance to your US # even though you are visiting Mexico and are across the street?

It sounds like most of your calls will be between the US and where-ever you are which makes your plan sound appealing. 90% of the calls I receive on my cell phone come from friends located within a few miles of where I am in Mexico. Therefore having a US telephone # on my cell phone would make it too expensive for most people to call me.

The Verizon World Plan was just too expensive. I'm glad you have found a plan that might be better and for a lot less.

Keep on posting as you learn the ins and outs of this new plan. I sure hope the plan is as good as advertized



raferguson


May 10, 2009, 4:43 PM

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One approach would be to get a Skype-In number in the USA, and forward it to your Mexican land line or cell phone. The cost is not unreasonable. You could forward it to a USA landline or cell as well, give people one phone number and it would follow you across the border if necessary. You might be able to get a Skype-In number in Mexico as well, and do the same in the reverse direction.

The no contract approach sounds good for part time residents.

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Oscar2

May 11, 2009, 12:53 PM

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Johanson, I’ve done a little more exploring with Verizon and Metro this morning and will try to answer some cogent questions needing answers, as best I can.


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What happens when you are in Mexico? I presume if you are in one of the listed cities, you can call the states for free.



Lets keep in mind that its only $37.00 per month without a contract and unlimited calls “within” the USA and from the USA too Mexico. That is dirt-cheap. Verizon, North American family plan was costing me $120.00 a month and required a contract with minuet limitations to boot. Therefore if I’m in Mexico for a month or more, I’ll get a Mexican cell phone there. And if I did that Johanson, which one would you opt to use? Metro is only for the US and calls to Mexico, can’t be used in Mexico.


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How about if you are for example in Chapala which is not listed as one of the cities.



If I can, I’ll do a work around by perhaps finding a land line where prearranged calls are made and only if its important. Or I’ll use Magic Jack at .03 cents per minuet.


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How much extra does it cost to phone the states per minute?



Metro is only for the US and calls to Mexico, can’t be used in Mexico.


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And the one thing that keeps me from getting a US cell phone is. What happens if your neighbor in say Ajijic wants to call you? Does he have to phone long distance to your US # even though you are visiting Mexico and are across the street?



I agree, in your particular situation where you “live” both in the US and Mexico, it would be more feasible to have two cell phone providers. One in Mexico (please recommend) and one in the US. I’m not privy as to which cell provider is best in Mexico but currently, Metro seems like the best ticket if you’re in a major city in the US. At least its working for me.

The reason I bared the cost of Verizon’s North American plan for so long and exposed myself to $120.00 per month charges is because they had literally discontinued this plan and only because I was a previous member they grandfathered me in. With pressing competition in place they have reopened the Mexico plan and now call it Nationwide plus Mexico plan.

This new Verizon plan with one year contract will allow everything you may need Johanson. For $55 too $215 dollars per month (and everything in between) you can start at 450 too 6000 minuets and call within Mexico too cell, landlines, the US and visa versa with no roaming, as long as at least 50% of the minuets are too or within the USA. Verizon’s new Nationwide plus Mexico plan is now readily available to “everyone.” It can be explored at their website or call: 001-800-922-0204, I believe this is the Mexico number and 800-922-0204 in the US.

This is Verizon’s first competitive entry. There are rumblings about yet better deals lined up to reduce the lions share of business Metro is now chewing with this Jaw Dropping, Unlimited calling plan and no contract. The big-guys are scrambling and sort of fading in the US behind the tremendous shadow cast by Metro’s unprecedented spot light. It’s like wait and see stuff!

I’ll keep my ear to the ground and my eyes on the horizon to see what’s-a-steering, As usual, I know I can rely on you guys with fillers, heads-ups and better deals. Lets see what happens…



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May 11, 2009, 5:40 PM

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Which is the best cell phone provider in Mexico? Well, by the far most used and also most expensive is Telcel, the company is owned by one of the richest persons in the world, Carlos Slim. He also owns or is the primary owner of the biggest telephone company in Mexico, Telmex. Another much smaller cell phone company, "MovieStar" is present in many parts of Mexico and charges much less per minute. The problem is each company charges less when you call someone else who is using the same cell phone carrier. Because almost all of my friends use Telcel, it costs me less to use Telcel.

I know some people who carry both Telcel and MovieStar phones using each to call friends who had the same cell phone carrier. Most folks from up North don't have monthly accounts here in Mexico. Rather they buy 100, 200, 300 or 500 peso cards. Telcel calls this the Amigo plan. Without going into too much detail, when you have the Telcel Amigo plan, for the first year you can talk to up to ten different Telcel customers for about 1 peso per minute, and after the first year you can phone anyone in your area using a Telcel phone for 1 peso per minute. Now if you buy a 500 peso card you get 900 to 950 pesos worth of time which means each minute costs maybe 53 centavos per minute which at 13.5 pesos per dollar equates to a little less than 4 cents per minute. Again the MovieStar rates are lower but I don't know what they are.

So far I have only mentioned calling from cell phone to cell phone. Using your cell phone to call a land line in Mexico is more expensive. But I don't remember how expensive, because I am in the states. Oh and I have my Mexican Telcel cell phone with me. the roaming charges are something like $2.60 US per minute, so I don't use it much. But should someone call my Mexican Cell # I will get it, get his telephone number and call him back using a cheaper method. I hope someone else can fill in some of the info I have missed

Oh and yes when I fly between Mexico and the states, business persons would often have a cell phone for each country, Thanks for all of the information you have provided us about this new phone option.


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Papirex


May 11, 2009, 10:47 PM

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Another very good cell phone company is Iusacell. Unfortunately, although their roaming service is very good throughout the Republic, their regular reception is not good in many areas. A couple of years ago my wife and her Mom went over to Ajijic to visit her aunt. We had an add on to both of our plans at that time and for a flat fee of $90 Pesos per month we could call each others cell phone anywhere in the Republic at no cost or use of our minutes. When I called her in Ajijic the phone would ring in the house, but she had to go outside to talk to me.


Iusacell will furnish you a good, better, or best phone at no charge if you sign a one, two, or three year contract with them. They will also furnish new batteries at no cost as needed. We weren't aware of that benefit for several years. One of our daughters sent us one of her old Verizon phones from California, it used the same batteries as the Iusacell phone Doris had. The batteries would not hold a charge very long though, she had to charge the phone frequently using the car cord.


One of our nieces in México City then told Doris that Iusacell would give her free batteries. When Doris came home and told me that we could go to one of the Iusacell offices and get free batteries, I thought privately that it sounded like pie in the sky to me. To keep peace in the family, I went to the Iusacell office with her.


When Doris showed the phone to a young woman at the counter and asked for new batteries, the woman looked at the phone and took the battery out of it and said “they don't make this model of phone anymore, and we can't get batteries for it anymore. We can give you a new phone though.” I thought, here comes the hook. I asked her how much a new phone was going to cost us. She replied, we are obligated to furnish you new batteries, we can't do that, so we will give you a new phone at no cost. I was happily flabbergasted.


It turned out that the young woman that helped us with the battery problem speaks fluent English. She has become our friend. She was transferred to a couple of different offices, and we followed her. She is now the Gerente of the office where she is assigned now. It is extremely rare to find an English speaking person in any business or government office in Cuernavaca. It is kind of neat for me to have a n English speaking friend that is the chief of an office for our cell phone provider. Any little problems I have, she solves them quick. Doris has no problem speaking Spanish to her of course. For me, it is often a problem finding the right words for technical stuff.


We earn a couple of thousand premium points every month with Iusacell. I never could find out what they were good for except I was always told for “benefits.” It turns out that about every two years, we have enough points to get a new phone at no cost on each of our plans. Doris is on her third new, free phone and I am on my second.


We are allowed to keep the old phones whenever we get a new one. If we want to buy a $200 Peso prepaid phone card, Iusacell will program the old phone and assign a new number to it at no cost other than the price of the prepaid card so we may loan it to visitors. At present, we have four perfectly serviceable spare cell phones, not counting the one with the weak batteries.


Our daughter gave me a couple of her old Verizon phones on my last couple of trips to visit her in California in case I wanted to have them reprogrammed to use prepaid cards down here. She gave me a Nokia phone last February that is only two years old. She installed a long life battery in it and it still has the new, unused standard battery, owners manual, car cord, etc. I verified that I can buy a prepaid card for it from Verizon and they will assign a new number for it. I plan to use it on future trips to The US, like some of the business people do. Iusacell will loan me a phone to use in The US and I must pay for any calls made up there when I return the phone to them. I don't even want to guess how much the charge per minute might be.


Iusacell service is not particularly cheap. I pay about $350 Pesos per month, that includes about 350 minutes and road service for minor repairs, tire changing, towing, and delivery of 5 liters of gasoline if needed. I dropped the $90 Peso charge to call Doris phone at no cost as I seldom use any of my minutes in any month. I carry a cell phone mostly for security in case of a car wreck to call an adjuster, etc.


Doris' Iusacell plan costs about $650 Pesos per month and includes 750 minutes (not too much for her), it includes the feature of free calls to my cell phone anywhere in the Republic, the same road service that I have, etc.


The road service costs $30 pesos additional for each phone. For about US$2.25 each it is cheap insurance that I hope we never need to use, but it is a comfort to have it.


I know it isn't useful everywhere here, but in the central highlands, Iusacell is king.


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