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robbers

May 14, 2009, 7:24 PM

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I also miss polite people who are conscious of others around them and who consciously acknowledge the presense, the existence of other people with their courteouness and polite consideration. It is not enough, for me, that Mexicans have built in atomic clocks and know the precise instant it is no longer "buenos dias" and becomes "buenas tardes." I miss people who respect my privacy and don't ask me how much money I make or how much I paid for my house, who don't endanger me in traffic and on the highway, who don't block the aisles in the groceries stores and ignore me while I wait patiently for them to give way.

I miss common courtesy, the social graces I learned in kindergarten, and common respect for my privacy, my peace and quiet in the wee hours of the night/morning when I need to sleep, my property, and my person.



Yeah, me, too, and I live in Nashville.


toddmc


May 15, 2009, 7:37 AM

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Other than your favorite foods, what was the hardest thing to give up when you moved to Mexico?

For me it was book stores.
Chapters and Indigo (Think Barnes and Noble)
And used book stores.

It seems the vast majority of the reading here is the captions at the movie theater.


Todd

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Our new life in Patzcuaro: http://lifeinthecorazon.blogspot.com



Hound Dog

May 15, 2009, 11:35 AM

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I also miss polite people who are conscious of others around them and who consciously acknowledge the presense, the existence of other people with their courteouness and polite consideration. It is not enough, for me, that Mexicans have built in atomic clocks and know the precise instant it is no longer "buenos dias" and becomes "buenas tardes." I miss people who respect my privacy and don't ask me how much money I make or how much I paid for my house, who don't endanger me in traffic and on the highway, who don't block the aisles in the groceries stores and ignore me while I wait patiently for them to give way.

I miss common courtesy, the social graces I learned in kindergarten, and common respect for my privacy, my peace and quiet in the wee hours of the night/morning when I need to sleep, my property, and my person.


Robbers:

Are you trying to say that the Mexican people are impolite? That they are not concious of nor acknowledge the presence of other people? That they are impolite and inconsiderate? That they do not respect your privacy? That they have "...built in atomic clocks...." informing them of the time of day? That they inquire as to how much money you make and how much you paid for your house? That they endanger you in traffic? That Mexicans block grocery store aisles and ignore you as you attempt to pass?

Do we live in the same Mexico?

I have lived in this country at Lake Chapala and in the Chiapas Highlands for nearly a decade and have traveled extensively in this country and the most impolite and discourteous and improperly inquisitive and aisle blocking and aggressively driving morons I have met have been foreigners living in Mexico presuming they were still in Toronto or Miami or Paris so one of us is burdened by misperceptions. The most obnoxious people I see at Lake Chapala are foreigners by far and that is my consistent experience over the past near decade. That experience has not been duplicated in Chiapas where there are few foreigners.

To each his own.


(This post was edited by Hound Dog on May 15, 2009, 11:37 AM)


robbers

May 15, 2009, 1:30 PM

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Hounddoggie,

Actually, you've quoted the original post that I was responding to without quoting my reply which was:

"Yeah, me, too, and I live in Nashville."

It was meant to be a bit of a tongue-in-cheek response to the original poster that his perception of Mexican people (which happens to be the exact opposite of both my experiences as well as yours) can apply to citizens of the USofA. I meant non-Mexican residents in the US, but I could see how some might think I was referring to Mexican Nationals who are currently residing in the US.

In order, my favorite peoples of the countries I've spent time in is: Thailand, Belize, Mexico. The USofA would be fairly far down that list, unfortunately.

Am sure you're happy to hear we're on the same page. Or failing that, at least on the same thread.

Regards,
Rob


Hound Dog

May 15, 2009, 6:14 PM

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You´re a good man Rob. I get it.


Brigitte Ordoquy

May 17, 2009, 10:03 AM

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I worked for a International company that had a Latin America Division and the favorite assignement was Mexico number one. the least favorite was Argentina.
Worldwide the favorite assignment was Western Europe the least favorite was Lagos Nigeria. For the job in Nigeria, they would give a 4 year contract to the happy candidate, the package included frequent trips back home for the family, car chaufffeur, body guard , housing , expenses paid and bribe money called consumer conversion money as we were not allowed to have bribe money....Very few people ever renewed the contract after 4 years.


La Isla


May 17, 2009, 1:35 PM

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Hi Brigitte. Could you give us a couple of anecdotal reasons why Mexico was the favorite Latin American assignment and Argentina the least favorite?


Brigitte Ordoquy

May 17, 2009, 2:35 PM

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Sorry no good stories.
Most of the country managers for Latin America were latinos. They came from all over Latin America and many of them did not like to work in Argentina. They thought the people were formal and arrogant.
After Mexico, Brazil was number 2 on their list of favorite countries to work and live in.
They all liked Mexico and could not say enough about the people and the life here .
I met these people when Seagram decided to get all the division managers from Canada US and Latin America to broaden everyone´s perspective. They also brought in all the various branches except for Universal (The studios) together.
All of the people there worked with wine, liquor and orange juice . The orange juive company was always kept separate from the rest of the businesses. It was pretty funny, very quickly the liquor guys and orange juice salespeople came up with great ideas for promotions but they were immediately shot down by the president of the orange juice company who did not want to have anything to do with the sin industry and their products... Seagram should have forgotten the Studios and the orange juice and bought some tobacco company!


mzdaisy


May 22, 2009, 5:34 AM

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The package that Telmex offers on TV comes with only 1/2 speed. I had to call them when I coudn´t even send a simple email. Then they boosted me to the fastest for a 100 pesos more a month. They currently offer 100 free min local, 100 national, top speed internet, which is still slightly slow for $599 pesos a month. All my friends and family here and nationally, have cell phones so the 100 national doesn´t help me. I asked them to remove the 100 national and I pay $400 per month for the fastest speed internet and 100 free local min. plus line fee. The 100 free national is are only for land phones. Movistar cell phones have a cost of aprox.11 for 20 min. to US and 6 pesos for national calls for 20 min. Mind you, you have to have them program the phone to "per call" or they will charge you like 3 pesos a min. Found that out the hard way.


johanson


May 22, 2009, 10:52 AM

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mzdaisy, you wrote " The package that Telmex offers on TV comes with only 1/2 speed. I had to call them when I coudn´t even send a simple email. Then they boosted me to the fastest for a 100 pesos more a month. They currently offer 100 free min local, 100 national, top speed internet, which is still slightly slow for $599 pesos a month

Please look at the following link http://www.telmex.com/mx/hogar/in_infinitum_pyp.html This is a list of the special packages offered/advertized by Inifinitum,. You will see that you increased your speed from their lowest to their middle advertised speed, the one that is rated at hasta or up to 1 meg down by up to 128 kb/sec up. You will see that there is a third or faster speed offered for $999 per month again up to 2meg/256 kb/s. There is a fourth option available normally offered to businesses that some homes have that has a 4 meg download speed


I agree that Telmex's Prodigy Infinitum slowest speed is rather slow by North American standards but remember that before DSL etc, all we had was dialup. Where the dialup speeds were quite slow. Even with the very slow dialup upload speeds one could send a simple email out in only a few seconds. So if you couldn't send a simple email out over DSL's slowest speed, I then suggest the problem was not the ISP speed but something else.

I give tech support at a local ISP lakeside where perhaps 5% of our clients are still using dialup. Although, I could never live with dialup because it is so slow, they are very happy. The biggest problem they have is that some of their young relatives who have very high speed internet NoB will send complicated email messages to them with attachments, you know pictures, files that are so large that it could take two hours at dialup speed to download an email with large photo attachments.

Our dialup download speeds average perhaps 45 kb/sec. Up to 512 kb/sec is a heck of a lot better it would take about an 8th of the time, but like you mzdaisy, I have to have an even faster connection. Do I need a much higher speed? Probably not, but ....
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