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Maesonna

Apr 11, 2010, 3:35 PM

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I was able to register the phone of my daughter, who is out of the country, at a Telcel service center with only a copy of her CURP. They didn't want to see her ID or anything else.

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tashby

Apr 11, 2010, 5:48 PM

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Interesting. I was curious about the big (or not) SHEBANG. And saw your post.

So I picked up my (almost never used) cell phone that I'd registered via CURP #/text message/confirmation received.

I dialed our home phone # here in Mexico and it rang.

Ours works for now.....anyway......I guess.

JRinPV

Apr 12, 2010, 8:46 AM

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If you've ever been censused, had the census person come to your door and filled out the info. required, you can get your CURP on-line. For Jalisco
http://curp.jalisco.gob.mx/curp.html

Casa

Apr 13, 2010, 7:45 AM

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If you use someone else's CURP they can have your service cancelled--all they have to do is report the phone missing/stolen.

The Informador News Paper is reporting that so far about 12,000 cell phones have been registered using Felipe Calderon’s personal information and about 4,000 cell phones have been registered using Carlos Slims personal information.

Other popular figures with a lot of registered cell phones include ex-president Vicente Fox Quesada, el diputado Francisco Ramírez Acuña, governors Enrique Peña Nieto (Estado de México) y Emilio González Márquez (Jalisco), Cardinal Norberto Rivera, and even Rafael Ponfilio Acosta Ángeles “Juanito”.
But it seems this should be all straightened out in the second phase of the regulation which requires about 60 million people to line up and confirm their identity in person!

(and people thought the lines to register cell phones were long last week...)

Peter

Apr 13, 2010, 10:11 AM

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That should demonstrate how easy it is for one's personal information to be mis-used, and how dificult it may be to detect the mis-use, even if you are a head-of-state.

It may be that after a massive re-confirmation Felipe will end up with fewer phones in his name, but perhaps not before some crimes are committed using one of his phones. In such case it seems likely his alibi would hold more water than if the same happened to José Soplo.

Zorba

Apr 14, 2010, 1:44 AM

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"The Informador News Paper is reporting that so far about 12,000 cell phones have been registered using Felipe Calderon’s personal information and about 4,000 cell phones have been registered using Carlos Slims personal information."

Haha! Oh man, that is sooooo Mexican! Haha!

How the hell are people getting a hold of other people's CURP, etc? That should be confidential info! This is one example of why I am very careful in Mexico with info. There is no way your personal details are safe. My phone, my car, my bank accounts, my license, etc. are all registered under an address where I dont actually live. Electricity is registered under a different name. This way, nobody can just run my plates to find out where I live or go to a corrupt official to find out.

Anyways, what is the point of registering them electronically if people will just have to show up in person after?

richmx2

Apr 14, 2010, 7:38 PM

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Even assuming 20,000 phones were registered under joke names, and with 61,875,000+ phones registered with TelCel alone, that is only 0.03 percent -- much less if you factor in the other companies. It's about the number of wise-acres you'd find in any society, and there's nothing "typically Mexican" about it. You'd expect a certain amount of spin about ANYTHING done by ANY government ANYWHERE on the planet. But a hardship? Why do WE have to do it? Uh... because "we" live here and them's the rules.

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johnv

Apr 14, 2010, 9:35 PM

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Zorba, it is very easy to figure out a person's Curp. I posted this information on these forums already. The information is good for checking your own Curp to see if it is right, because rest assured that they will get it screwed up. Just like many on these forums will not be able to comprehend the following, so it is that the issuers of Curp's may not comprehend the instructions either:

1. Given name. (first name)

2. First surname: the father's first surname.

3. Second surname: the mother's first surname.

The CURP code is composed of 18 characters that are assigned as follows:

* The first surname's initial and first inside vowel:
* The second surname's initial (or the letter "X" if,
like some foreign nationals, the person has
no second surname):
* The first given name's initial:
* Date of birth (2 digits for year, 2 digits for month,
and 2 digits for day);
* A one-letter gender indicator (H for male
(hombre in Spanish) or M for female
(mujer in Spanish)):
* A two-letter code for the state where the person
was born; for persons born abroad,
the code NE (nacido en el extranjero)
is used:
* The first surname's first inside consonant:
* The second surname's first inside consonant:
* The first given name's first inside consonant:
* Two characters ranging from 1-9 for people born
before 2000 or from A-Z for people born since
2000; these characters are generated by the
National Population Registry to prevent
identical entries:

Zorba

Apr 14, 2010, 11:17 PM

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"Even assuming 20,000 phones were registered under joke names, and with 61,875,000+ phones registered with TelCel alone, that is only 0.03 percent -- much less if you factor in the other companies."

The point isn't how many did it, but that it can be done. Easily.

"It's about the number of wise-acres you'd find in any society, and there's nothing "typically Mexican" about it."

Sure, but these wise guys registered them in the name of Carlos Slim himself! That's fucking hilarious. If you don't think that is typically Mexican than we hang out with different Mexicans I guess.

"You'd expect a certain amount of spin about ANYTHING done by ANY government ANYWHERE on the planet. But a hardship? Why do WE have to do it? Uh... because "we" live here and them's the rules."

I never said anything about it being unfair or something to have to register. My point is that it's clearly a flawed system. It appears that they plan to us the CURP for any and all business with the government. Not very comforting. Do you think it's a good idea to have your Social Security number out on the internet for anybody to see?

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sioux4noff

Apr 15, 2010, 5:46 PM

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Sure, but these wise guys registered them in the name of Carlos Slim himself! That's fucking hilarious. If you don't think that is typically Mexican than we hang out with different Mexicans I guess.

I don't think it typically Mexican. I have many American friends who would do the same.

Zorba

Apr 16, 2010, 2:14 AM

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That's fine. You are entitled to your opinion. Generally speaking, Mexicans are great at avoiding direct conflict. Instead, they are masters of passive agressive moves and will operate behind the scenes to your detriment if they think you have treated them unfairly or disrespectfully. You may get pissy with your mechanic and he will simply smile wryly or put on a smug face. Then for some reason your car is never the same and you just can't figure out why. They have a long memory and are very patient. Hence, it is best that you have a lot of patience yourself and when things are not going your way you should use some humour to get what you want or simply agree to part ways. Of course you can find such behaviour in all people and cultures to a degree, but it is particularly pronounced in the Mexican culture. These of course are gross generalizations, but so what. Canadians are boring, Americans are arrogant, and the Japanese are shy.

tonyburton / Moderator

Apr 16, 2010, 7:47 AM

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And on that note we'll end this thread, ladies and gentlemen. Start another if you wish to continue the conversation.

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