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delmaracer

Feb 18, 2009, 9:09 PM

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FM3 to FM2

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I was just emailed the following information that I am passing along for comment and contradiction.

"Bob we just renewed Maria's FM2. I asked the immigration officer if one
can go direct to an FM2. the answer is yes. If they find you are out of
the country more than 2 months, per year, they will revoke it and
revert you back to an FM3. This is true, even, if you go direct to an
FM2 or plunder through the 5 years of an FM3.

This is a new development as far as i know we tried to go direct to FM2
at the beginning and were refused."

This development is from San Felipe Immigration office (Mexicali) and if true in other states could save money, time and ....

Bob



Rolly


Feb 18, 2009, 9:35 PM

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Re: [delmaracr] FM3 to FM2

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"...we tried to go direct to FM2 at the beginning and were refused."

Where did you try? You cannot get an FM2
from a consulate outside the country. It is available only from INM inside México. You can go from FMT to FM2 in México -- that is not something new.


Rolly Pirate


delmaracer

Feb 18, 2009, 9:55 PM

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This was asked of the immigration office in San Felipe, Baja, Mx., a sub of Mexicali.
Not a part of the "real" Mexico, hehehe, but tryin

Bob


jennifer rose

Feb 19, 2009, 5:42 AM

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Something has been lost in translation. FM2 holders may spend 18 months out of the country during the 5-year period.


delmaracer

Feb 19, 2009, 7:10 AM

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But if you don't sign out, they don't know you are out of the country. ;)


morgaine7


Feb 19, 2009, 7:10 AM

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When I first applied for a visa (November 2006) I was also told that I had to start with an FM3. The requirements apparently changed the following year, and I upgraded to FM2 in November 2008. The INM agent told me not to spend more than 3 months per year out of the country on the FM2, but that may have been just a guideline. My understanding is that if you exceed 18 months in five years, you're ineligible for inmigrado status. In our office (La Paz, BCS), they do look carefully at entry and exit stamps for the FM2. I'd imagine that in Mexicali they would be even more strict, since it's so close to the border. I've heard of people not bothering to get their FM3s stamped when crossing by land, but I suspect that would be harder to get away with on an FM2.

Kate


delmaracer

Feb 19, 2009, 10:15 AM

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When I first applied for a visa (November 2006) I was also told that I had to start with an FM3. The requirements apparently changed the following year, and I upgraded to FM2 in November 2008. The INM agent told me not to spend more than 3 months per year out of the country on the FM2, but that may have been just a guideline. My understanding is that if you exceed 18 months in five years, you're ineligible for inmigrado status. In our office (La Paz, BCS), they do look carefully at entry and exit stamps for the FM2. I'd imagine that in Mexicali they would be even more strict, since it's so close to the border. I've heard of people not bothering to get their FM3s stamped when crossing by land, but I suspect that would be harder to get away with on an FM2.

Kate


About September 08, I was told that I had to sign out prior to renewing my FM3. That was confirmed by the San Felipe immigration office. When I tried to sign out at the east border crossing in Mexicali, I was told by a senior officer that signing is not required, but he did it any way, after some additional conversation. I then aske him if the minimum amount of money in a local bank had increased by $500.00 usd? He said no, no change. I told him that this was also a requirement by the local office. He said there would be an investigation. In December, there were staff changes. Lesson learned - things do work in mexico (ocassionally).
Bob



(This post was edited by delmaracr on Feb 19, 2009, 10:21 AM)


Judy in Ags


Feb 20, 2009, 12:29 PM

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"I then aske him if the minimum amount of money in a local bank had increased by $500.00 usd? He said no, no change. I told him that this was also a requirement by the local office."

Boy, you lost me on this one. Are you saying that an FM3 holder is required to have a minimum of 500usd in a local bank? I never heard that one before. Please clarify.



delmaracer

Feb 20, 2009, 3:03 PM

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In San Felipe, a suburb of Mexicali, but 120 miles to the south, it is required - prior to having the local immigration office "sign" your FM3, one must have on deposit in a local bank, the sum of $1100.00 USD if single and you own ur own home, or $1,500 if single but do not own. The minimum deposit for married's goes up to $1,700.00 per couple renting or owning. I guess it is Mexico's way to avoid the american "deadbeat' GETTING ON ALL OF THE SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAMS presently available SOB. ;)

I know that this seems to be a "local or regional" matter rather than a national policy as Rolly told me that he has heard of no such requirement for him. What is apparant is that there is no national rules for this. Or if there is, Mexicali/Baja is just making up their own in addition to those national rules.

Bob


Judy in Ags


Feb 20, 2009, 3:22 PM

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Thanks. Wow! I had never heard of such a thing. 'Glad we don't have that. We don't even have a bank account in Mexico.


jennifer rose

Feb 20, 2009, 4:43 PM

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I think someone's confusing "on deposit" with "monthly deposits." Those seeking an FM-3 must demonstrate monthly deposits in the sum of not less than 250 times the daily minimum wage in the Federal District. For a married couple, one partner must demonstrate 50% of that amount. For an FM-2, the amount is not less than 400 times the daily minimum wage in the Federal District.

For those who own the homes in which they reside in Mexico, the requirement may be reduced by up to 50%.

Foreigners often seem to think that "not less than" can mean "not more than." And that *may* does not mean *must.*
 
 
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