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JohnnyBoy

Sep 23, 2008, 9:18 PM

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I just got my new water softener. It came with four (4) bags of salt pellets. I think the bags weighed about 20-25 kg. The pellets do not look like the water softening pellets I used to get NoB. These are rounder in shape, about 25% crumbled from the pellet form into loose salt, and very dirty (black specs/rocks in the pellets and loose in the crumbled salt.)

The pellets I used to buy NoB were oblong in shape and there was almost zero loose crumbled salt in the bottom of the sacks, and appeared to be perfectly white and clean.

Do any of you buy water softener pellets in Mexico in a type of place that might exist elsewhere in the country?

I have tried two "water treatment" companies here and both carry the same type of pellets I described above.

Alternatively, do any of you experts know if using dirty, crumbled salt will negtively effect the functioning of the water softener?

Thanks.

jb



bournemouth

Sep 24, 2008, 6:57 AM

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Re: [JohnBleazard] Water Softener Salt

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John - that's the kind of salt we get in the Guadalajara area too so I think it is general in Mexico. I haven't found the type we are used to here - one more thing for you to bring back from your Tucson trips. However, the salt you have does seem to work.


robrt8

Sep 25, 2008, 9:11 PM

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Re: [JohnBleazard] Water Softener Salt

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I'm not an expert, but crumbled salt is fine. No problem there.


Moisheh

Oct 31, 2008, 6:38 PM

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John:

I used that salt in our softener but it tends to clump up in the summer. There is a store on Veracruz that sells water pumps, etc. They carry the yellow bags of Morton Salt. Sorry I do not know the name but saw the salt in the window.Make sure you have a filter before the softener as the water in Herm. is dirty.

Moisheh


JohnnyBoy

Nov 1, 2008, 3:57 PM

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Re: [Moisheh] Water Softener Salt

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Thanks Moisheh. I may have seen that pump store, or maybe I am thinking about the water purification place that is on Veracruz across the street from "House" where I bought my appliances. I will make a trip over there and look.

I would like to find Morton salt pellets. I have a supply of salt at the moment from the people who sold and installed my water softener. They say it comes from Texas, but it is very moist and clumpy.

I do have a "whole house" filter right where the water comes out of the ground before going into the house...where the meter would be if they ever got around to coming here to install one. I just bought a replacement filter and will install in on or around January 1st so as to be able to remember when the six months are up and time to install a new one.

Yes, the water here leaves much to be desired. Even when softened it has quite an odor. I have a sink-top filter than removes the odor, chlorine, and some other ickies and I use that water for cooking pasta and for rinsing fruit and vegetables. I have a water cooler/dispenser and buy purified water for drinking. The soft water makes my shower nice and I guess it saves some wear and tear on the dishwasher and washing machine, which were the primary reasons for getting it.

Thanks again.

jb


jeanneatlixco

Apr 21, 2010, 9:07 AM

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Hello from state of Puebla.

Could you tell me the brand of water softner you bought and where purchased. Thank you. Jeanne


JohnnyBoy

Apr 21, 2010, 9:49 AM

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Re: [jeanneatlixco] Water Softener Salt

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My water softener is called: Pentair. I bought here in Hermosillo, Sonora, at AguaTec on Reforma. They do every imaginable thing with water. I got my hydropneumatic system from them as well. I doubt that information is going to do you much good down there in Puebla.

But here are a couple of things you ought to know:

1. the most important part of a water softener is the valve. The gizmo that has the timer and sends the machine through the various stages of the regeneration process. Before I bought my system I did some online research and ended up exchanging a few emails with an engineer someplace in the USA. He told me not to worry too much about whether my system had the resin tank inside or outside the brine tank, which was the thing I was concerned about at the time. He told me the three most important things to consider were this, the valve issue, and to make sure I got a Fleck valve.

2. he said make sure the water to be softened is tested accurately for hardness and to get a valve that will handle the hardness. The water here in Hermosillo is pretty hard, but I have seen worse, in Kansas, where my daughter's water softener (actually the valve...and it is not a Fleck) is just too whimpy to handle the hardness there. It is also important for setting how much salt to use every time the machine regenerates and how often to do it.

3. make sure your house has at least the minimum required water pressure, according to the specs of the water softener. Mine was something like 26 psi (but I am not sure of that now) and I thought my pressure here was good. And it was. But as more and more people moved into the neighborhood, my water pressure declined, and the water softener stopped working. It would go through the regeneration cycles, but the pressure was too weak to rinse out the bad stuff and bring in the new, good stuff (sorry for the technical language). I ended up having to get a hydropneumatic system installed, which involved putting a large plastic cistern under my garage floor, and a pump that sits next to the water softener. We have around 45 psi now and it is great.

Pentair uses Fleck valves. My water is wonderfully soft and the machine regenerates just once a week. I used to regenerate three times a week to get minimal softness, before I corrected the water pressure problem. Now, once a week is enough, and I could probably go longer, but the valve is based on a weekly cycle, so I have to regnerate at least once a week if I want the machine to do it for me automatically. I could do it manually and less often, but that is too much trouble for me.

I am so glad I got the pressure system. Now when we have our turn without water (eight hours every day) we do not even notice it, because the pump takes water out of the cistern and it eventually refills to capacity when the city water comes back on. Same, of course, is true whenever there is a water outage, which happens now and then, in addition to the mandatory eight hours without water. And we have great pressure in the showers, and it makes a big difference in the length of time it now takes to do laundry every week, because the washer fills so much faster now.

So, bottom line: get a stout Fleck valve in your water softener and make sure you have enough water pressure to run it.


jeanneatlixco

Apr 22, 2010, 9:52 AM

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jeanneatlixco

Apr 22, 2010, 9:58 AM

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Thank you, Johnny Boy, for your extensive reply with good advice. We will be living in a village of 342 people and the communicty water is from a well. There is not water 24 hours. I know there are salts but will try to have the water tested. Am not sure about the pressure but will check it out. I beleive the valve is available in Central Mexico.

Our property is 2700 + sq. meters and we have renovated (reconstructed) an original adobe building which is thermic. Additional construction (conventional) is in progress. Will translate the information for our architect etc.

I appreciate your help.

Sincerely,
Jeanne
 
 
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