
Linda in Morelia
Sep 18, 2008, 8:31 PM
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Re: [ncferret] Reflections on Living with Violence in Mexico
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I wanted to respond to your post questioning whether it is safer in Mexico than in the US. Like you, I don't want to start an argument. Not since my graduate school days (long ago) have I done any serious investigation of crime statistics, but it is a tricky subject. The link you cite shows the murder rate as far higher in Mexico than in the US. However, the hard part about crime data is that it is usually disproportionally impacted by certain "hotspot areas," as well as certain types of crime. I spent about 20 minutes looking for data on crime by city in Mexico and came up empty. But, for illustration, here are stats from a a web site whose bona fides I have no idea about (http://www.benbest.com/lifeext/murder.html). Anyway, they compared murder rates by city in the US and Europe. They reported the following: CITYMURDERS PER 100,000 (1) Washington, D.C., USA 69.3 (2) Philadelphia, USA27.4 (3) Dallas, USA 24.8 (4) Los Angeles, USA 22.8 (5) Chicago, USA 20.5 (6) Phoenix, USA 19.1 (7) Moscow, Russia 18.1 (8) Houston, USA18.0 (9) New York City, USA 16.8 (10) Helsinki, Finland 12.5 (11) Lisbon, Portugal 9.7 (12) San Diego, USA 8.0 (13) Amsterdam, Netherlands 7.7 (14) Belfast, N.Ireland, UK 4.4 (15) Geneva, Switzerland 4.2 (16) Copenhagen, Denmark 4.0 (17) Berlin, Germany 3.8 (18) Paris, France 3.3 (19) Stockholm, Sweden 3.0 (20) Prague, Czechoslovakia 2.9 As you can see from this data, US cities are among the most violent of developed cities in the world, even though the overall US crime rate is relatively low. There isn't a lot of violent crime in Topeka, Kanasas or Missoula, Montana. The US State Department and the CIA sites warn US citizens about crime in Mexico City and border cities, but express much less concern about crime in other parts of Mexico. In the "hotspot" areas of Mexico, a huge percentage of violent crime is drug gang related and involves drug gang members and the policia killing one another. I would assert that a place like Morelia is usually quite safe. I am certainly more comfortable wandering around here at night than I have been in Manhattan, Hollywood California, Chicago or San Francisco (all of which I lived in). A somewhat unrelated observation is that this recent violence in Morelia may be illustrative of the good job being done by Calderon. If his government's efforts weren't hurting the drug gangs, I doubt they would have stooped to throwing grenades into a public gathering and hurting women and children at a cherished Mexican event. This unprecedented act, which will help to turn the populace against the drug lords, seems to suggest that Calderon is hurting the gangs. Like the Prohibition era in the US, when the bootleggers were really being hurt by the Feds, they started taking actions that ultimately contributed to their demise. On yet another related topic that has received little comment, these drug gangs exist almost entirely to serve US consumers of their products. Yet the richest nation on earth has turned down requests for assistance by Mexico, apparently in hopes that a poor nation will solve their problems on the cheap. These are complicated issues--don't get me started! But I digress. Absent better data, I agree with Jennifer Rose--we are safer here in Morelia than in much of the USA. Jim
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