Oscar2
Mar 10, 2008, 12:39 PM
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Just returned from a wonderful relaxing weekend at one of our favorite resorts and noticed the Two Views of Mexico thread has kind of gone by the wayside and with good cause in my estimation. Unfortunately, the badmouthing/writings of Mexico remains in perpetuity without strong opposition for the benefit of Newbie’s who come on board too MC. Since we are all part of this community, I feel a positive welcome wagon without “personal” agendas or pathological tirades early on is a bit more inviting.
The new thread by Blov, Changing Mexico, comparatively is like day and night. Of which I enjoyed and encourage more the type of participation enjoined.
So, since someone earlier on “this thread,” very politely asked, “Oscar2, what is your problem.” In all fairness and since I’m back in the sandbox, let’s play a bit.
This thread is not a problem, why because these are only words whose tag limitations are so old and arcane it’s language can’t even come close to “truly” describing life’s ongoing sensitivities. Many have and continue to say true awareness has always been beyond words which can only be felt while present and listening through the stillness of sheer silence without words which equal thought and deliberately conceal real presence behind its shadows. Ops, I digress, a subject for another time. While words churn - let’s see what they have to say.
The following rant is supposed to be based on balance with the good/upside of Mexico, Mexicans and its culture first, not…. It’s the archaic stand them up and chop their knees off, tactic still used by politicians, editors and the like for a variety of reasons. Please tune in on the highlighted following negative buzzwords.
Boviator wrote:
Some people seem to love Mexico and think that everything Mexican is wonderful and “above reproach” and “must never be questioned.”
The government is as Mexicans want it and should not be criticized - After all, we are guests and no one asked us to come here. The people are part of happy, loving families and the poverty of the lives of the poor is noble. Wealthy Mexicans are cultured and refined and either have no responsibility for their fellow Mexicans, or take responsibility and provide well for them as patrones. The roads are just fine. The justice system provides appropriate justice for Mexicans (Gringos may want to be careful to “stay out” of the system, but it was not designed for them anyway) who get involved in legal disputes or problems. The environment is just fine. Field burning, using lakes, rivers and roadsides for trash disposal are part of the culture and “should not be criticized.” Everyonemust learn Spanish and must involved him/herself in the culture. They must love the cohetes, the various celebrations that go on constantly, and the work ethic and skill of Mexican labor. Mexicans love their animals.
The following is also supposed to be part of the positive balanced upside of Blov’s Mexican take:
“At the extreme, these people in my opinion are deluded.” On the other hand, many have a great deal to offer us in regard to understanding and appreciation of our adopted home - Mexico.
Since attention was unfairly focused especially on Mexicans, and their plight, Blov’s opening paragraph on Mexico was supposedly to first show the positive side of its nature. In this observers opinion (highlighted above in bold and blood red) the pendulum swung in the opposite direction. Why - because in my view it’s intentionally strewn with negative innuendo, as well as, bits and pieces of undermining, negative subliminal injection of Blov’s personal biases, to say the “very” least.
Yes, I know, I know, Blov’s a real nice guy and as sweet as saccharine. He keeps the ol’folks entertained feverishly spewing at a ominous collective rate, from other islands, as well, about or over 3000 dubious posts per minute and uses his keyboard as a pillow…. 
None the less, this does not buy a license to scathe the Mexicans and their culture on MC and unfairly and potentially discourage/scare away newbie’s who have and honest, deep desire to come to Mexico on their own terms, rather than taking for granted Blov’s pathological, unopposed biased squirm as the accepted standard and/or opinion.
Yes, we’ve all heard it, time and time again, within the 3000 or so posts, “l REALLY, REALLY LOVE MEXICO, plus, IF I SAID SOMETHING TO OFFEND YOU I SINCERELY APPOLLOGIZE, not. When placating and platitudes become routine, lookout, this is political rhetoric to make more space for questionably motivated addenda’s, some of which unfortunately are pure aggrandizement. Once placated, practically in the same breath, as in this thread, derogation of Mexico continues between gratuitous, entertaining crowd-pleasing handy hints on how to navigate Mexico. I grant you, with his writing skills, baring ominous motives; he can be an asset somewhere. I get the feeling he misses his grammar school classes.
Personally as a member of MC, with equal opinion rights, (minus arrogantly trashing a whole country) I will oppose sophistic, “perilous,” unfair, and unqualified attacks on a people who I and many others regard more favorably. Being glib, long winded, with a neurotic 3000 posts under the belt, this can and may intimidate opposition from the less capable, timid and/or the more silent ones.
But rest assured there are other motor mouths, of coarse yours truly excluded, that will claim foul when unnecessary, unfair, ruthless blood letting occurs, as earmarked in red in the above aforementioned which potentially goes to the heart of unsuspecting newbies looking to Mexico as a place to visit and/or reside.
If you wish to scathe Mexico, balance it with available blood curdling, statistics from your/our own US of A, provided below. If you want to scream, moan, bitch and groan like the cry babies of the litigious society us northerners have been weaned to be, and focus this phobia on Mexico, as hard as it maybe, please balance and include statistical difference in your rant. Those comparative statistics will clearly make Mexico a safe, more desirable, affordable haven for many who could (if they had the pelotas to do so) stand up as proof it does happen without comforting the whining snivelers of the litigious north.
Now since we’re being long winded lets get into the best of this unbalanced Gatling gun massacre where the ruthlessly slaughtered are strewn on the street curbs of Mexico. Of coarse some groupies and obsequious sycophants of similar bent who poses this same incessant posting neuroses, of course support and, cheer it on, out of sheer madness and/or its entertainment value.
The alternative, due in part too a stifled, tired imagination, stagnating and withering away while hugging for dear life, their worn-out keyboard pillows is more like down-home comfort. Well on second thought, since nothing else can physically move them anymore, atrophy seems a better choice then too much fresh air. Or perhaps tanning in the sunshine on a lovely Mexican day until they drop dead, but good heavens, without not being noticed daily without my handy keyboard tucked in my armpit, why, why, how can someone even suggest such a calamity. Again, please excuse, I digress.
If there was a semblance of empathy for their new adopted country, its hidden in the crevasses and deep ravens of expats faces ………..not to be found, unless, the heart speaks of why they came and does the affordable life style meet their dreams of comfort where elsewhere, it would not have been as comfortable, or even in the cards.
Bloviator wrote:
The government needs some improvement, corruption, inefficiency, and other problems keep Mexico from progressing as it should based on resources and population. Some families are loving and some aren't. Some men treat their wives with respect and some treat them as chattel. The children are catered to , perhaps to the point of being out of control. Old people are honored, or sometimes abandoned to poverty. Social Security in many cases consists of a begger's cup or some gum or a Telcel card to sell on the street corner. Wealthy Mexicans are cultured, but siphon the wealth of the nation to cater to that culture and part of the culture is contempt for poor Mexicans and for foreigners (We live here because we can't make it in the US). In many cases, but by no means all, they have abandoned their nation's poor, feel no responsibility to improve the economy, and use their wealth to acquire more wealth at the expense of the poor. Some of the roads are excellent. Some are narrow, of poor quality, and often dangerous. The justice system often does not provide justice, but is skewed to those with influence and is subject to corruption. The Napoleonic system often seems to work to the detriment of justice and the whole justice system needs some reformation. Gringos very much need to avoid the system. Many do not feel that they can get real justice if they get involved with it. The environment is in many cases sadly damaged. Many rivers and lakes are polluted. Trash dumps are often found along the roadsides. The air quality is often very poor. Infrastructure in most cities is teetering on the edge of gridlock and being overpowered by age and population. People who come here will benefit greatly from learning Spanish. However, those who choose to live in gringo ghettos and make little effort to learn the language and culture are free to do so. The various celebrations are a mixed bag. They are part of what makes the culture so interesting and they seem to enrich the lives of the Mexican people. On the other hand, they often keep Mexican families in poverty, with economic resources going into cerveza, music, ceremonial clothing, etc. The work ethic of the Mexican worker varies from excellent to indolent - just like that NoB. The methods of work are appropriate for Mexico, hold Mexico back economically, or both.
In my opinion, the following line was somewhat written by mistake because as he was looking in the mirror of life, an epiphany hit him straight between the eyes and what was really seen was a reflected projection of what Blov intrinsically feels about “himself” between the lines of his so called unbiased treaties.
“At the extreme, in my opinion some of these people are xenophobic and racist.”
Clearly, based on these ongoing rants, self-denial and beyond the “I love Mexico and apologies strewn all over the place, that which is not said, but felt directly or between the spaces of each of Blov’s musings, is a blaring, seemingly underlying desire to leave Mexico.
In addition, it has become unavoidable that we know why. Perhaps it would be best to call it adieu, fest up and join his great grandchildren, as he openly admits, someone closer to him has fervently suggested. A quiet exit plan can take place without further lamenting and without trying to dismantle Mexico in the process and take its inhabitants with him, according to this and other rants.
Most of us like to be loved, egos demand it but sometimes ego’s appetites can be devouring. Please keep in mind that the mind and “word-picture thought” create and work in tandem with the ego. It makes you write word after word of thought, as I am doing this instant, the trick is being aware that you are aware of this happening, like a witness to its madness. Eventually one gets a bit more grounded and a little more peace starts seeping into it with greater presence. I digress, but like all else, it too shall pass.
Now for the newly adopted DISCLAIMER I picked up from someone you may be familiar with….
If you don’t agree with me or Blov you will just have to grin and bear it or send me nasty PMs. Remember, no one has to read my postings. …….and they’re coming to take me away aha…….
Footnote: In the new thread Changing Cities, again, I must commend the resilient nature of our resident x-school teacher for his writing skills and researched information. Motivation is something compelling in human nature and that which moves us toward being seen more often then not, is also something being “aware” of is so important.
We had a banker once before with such great potential as a writer of thought which I miss. His thoughts were poignant, edgy and very entertaining but unfortunately like most egoic mind-based thought, thinking at times can be very unfriendly to others and oneself ….. I truly miss Bubba.
America the beautiful:
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
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