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Sharyn

Jul 15, 2006, 4:20 PM

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Where to Live?

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Hello,

I am new to blogging so glad that there is a forum to learn in.

I am selling my house so I can move to mexico, and hope to learn a lot from this site and these discussions.

For those of you already living full or parttime in Mexico, maybe you can help me in choosing a place to start looking. Here's what I know about me.

Hot humid tropical climates make me sloth-like, so don't want to live in one on a full time basis. I need trees, and a garden, so desert is out.

So far, on my list to choose from are San Miguel de Allende and the Lake Chapala area. I prefer smallish towns, (under 150,000) but with restaurants, shops, mercado, color. I would like to be situated in an area that did not think it was just terrible to be a single woman living alone! So I probably need other expats for language and acceptance.

I can't wait to see if there are any suggestions for me! Thanks in advance.




(This post was edited by jennifer rose on Jul 15, 2006, 6:00 PM)



juditha16


Jul 15, 2006, 4:27 PM

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Bienvenida a MexConnect. The state of Michoacan is green and beautiful and the weather is the best! Check out Patzcuaro for a greener gringo community in a small, historic colonial city with a growing gringo population.
Buena suerte.
Judith

(This post was edited by jennifer rose on Jul 15, 2006, 6:00 PM)



TigerTonio


Jul 15, 2006, 8:10 PM

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Sharyn, welcome to MexConnect!

Once you get your list of recommendations, I strongly urge you to research each location and then visit those who make the final cut on your list. Visit the places you like...not once, but perhaps even several times before you come to your final decision.

The places you mentioned -- San Miguel, Chapala are excellent and have an established infrastructure for expats. Judith's suggestion is also great. But ulitimately, it's going to be up to you and your personal preference.

I wish you the best of luck and success with this exciting endeavor!



sioux4noff

Jul 15, 2006, 8:27 PM

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Hi, and welcome to the group of expats and expats-to-be.
You said "Hot humid tropical climates make me sloth-like, so don't want to live in one on a full time basis" but there aren't really that many places that are hot and humid all the time. We live in Bucerias, just north of Puerto Vallarta. From November until around the middle of May the weather here is beautiful. All winter it is warm enough for the beach, but not hot and cools off at night. It may drop into the high 50s on rare occasions, daytime highs in the winter are probably 75 - 80.
June through October the weather can be very sauna-like. Most people take it very easy then, a nice change from the busy winter season really.
We are very close to the mountains and of course right on the coast. Lots of plants and trees here.
We wouldn't want the summer temps and humidity year round either! No place has a perfect climate (don't believe them if they say they do) so you just have to weigh the pluses and minuses.



Ron Pickering W3FJW


Jul 15, 2006, 11:01 PM

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One way, as I am planning to do next year, is to visit the various areas while living in a motorhome and spending a year or two visiting the various areas until I find one or two that meets my needs. I will probably spend the summer months in one area, and the winter in another until I find the right place or more probably, two places . I am also somewhat "sloth-like" in hot temps, so it may be necessary to live in two places. Smallish towns under 150,000 are generally easy to find as few towns have that many people. Probably only about 10 or 15 throughout Mexico. It seems the larger the town or the larger the expat community, the more expensive it is to live and exist comfortably.
Anyway, those are a few of my thoughts. Good luck in your endeavor.

Ron
Getting older and still not down here.



Sharyn

Jul 16, 2006, 7:45 AM

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Ron,

Thank you for your reply. I am wondering about the possibilities of 2 places as well. Not just for weather, but for the added interest that would add. I can see that you are correct about the costs etc wherever expats are already established. I don't really speak Spanish...(want to, but don't know how fluent will I get), so I want to be where there are enough expats that I may make a few friends.
Patzcuaro is on my list. It sounds beautiful. Thanks Again.

Good luck on your search!



Sharyn

Jul 16, 2006, 7:48 AM

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Thank you, maybe the coast should not be eliminated all together.



Sharyn

Jul 16, 2006, 7:50 AM

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Good advice Tio Tono. Thank you...sorry, don't know how to make a tilda.



Bubba

Jul 16, 2006, 8:05 AM

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Patzcuaro is on my list. It sounds beautiful. Thanks Again.

Patzcuaro is among the most overrated places on the planet. Move there in haste and repent in leisure. The town is pretty but superficial and one tires of it quickly sort of like some theme park in Omaha.

One can enjoy a simple lunch on the veranda of a restaurant in, say, Tours, France in 1975 and remember that experience fondly 30 years later sort of like the erection accompanying remembrance of Catherine Deneuve in her prime and that memory remains with one one´s entire life and today I walk my garden and find immense pleasure there versus the totally forgettable local restaurant scene at Lakeside.

Patcuaro is a bon bon soon forgotten. A place with two squares both unworthy of memory cell dedication. What a shithole prancing about as important.







Sharyn

Jul 16, 2006, 9:44 AM

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Bubba,

I love your directness. There was probably a way on this site to look up where you chose to settle, but I didn't think of that until now. Where did you decide to live in Mexico? Garden is really important to me, but so's I don't end up a recluse, I want a location where being outdoors with other people (plaza, restaurants, tianguis) is always an option.



Bubba

Jul 16, 2006, 10:37 AM

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Sonavabitch if my post didn´t just up a disappear godamnitall. I am really pissed.

Here is what I was saying in abbreviated fashion:

I have this here house in Ajijic that has a garden that is so beyond gorgeous that I cannot leave here but I will tell you this. This north shore of Lake Chapala is the sorriest excuse for a settlement of human beings that Bubba has ever seen. This is Yazoo City without the catfish restaurants. What a poop hole.

Now, Bubba done spent the past five years looking for the true Mexican experience. In that time he done looked at Merida. Veracruz, Queretaro, Mexico City, Guadalajara, Oaxaca, San Miguel de Allende, Guanajuato (what a fabulous town) San Luis Potosi and on and on. Here is what he found.

They ain´t no place like San Cristobal de las Casas. No place.

That´s it.

By, by.



Ron Pickering W3FJW


Jul 16, 2006, 12:28 PM

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By Gawd Bubba, Next time I'm SOB I gotta look you up & buy you a drink....
Getting older and still not down here.



Gringal

Jul 16, 2006, 12:38 PM

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Bubba's posts run the gamut from highly entertaining to downright gross. To describe a place as a "shithole" indicates that his vocabulary is on vacation. He has been living in the Lake Chapala area for just enough years to be thoroughly sick of it, but has not lived in his new place long enough to become disillusioned. Read the Lake Chapala forum for a while and you'll get the flavor of the place. Lots of expats just love it there and would go nowhere else.

I have been living in San Miguel de Allende for several years. It seems to fit your stated preferences. There are quite a few single women living here already. The population is about 80,000 with about 10-15% expats. Good shopping and restaurants. Lots of activities, clubs and events. Home/condo prices run anywhere from slightly under 100K to as much as you can pay. Rentals are available under 500USD per month. And up.

The downside: During the tourist season it is congested, and that "season" is on all year except for the hotter months of April through June, when the snowbirds have gone home and the Texans haven't arrived yet. The publicity about San Miguel has attracted what looks like unbridled development, both in town and in the surrounding countryside. What was once a sleepy little community with quite a few artists thrown in for flavor is morphing into a playground for the wealthy; gated communities and all. That's "progress", but it's still a gorgeous colonial treasure of a town and an enjoyable place to live.

Patzcuaro is in a lushly green and beautiful area, but it does get very chilly in the winter months. There isn't very much to do there, but Morelia is an active town with good shopping and cultural events. It's about 40 miles away.

As always, my advice is to look around and rent a while before buying anywhere.
That "only" five months of heat and humidity at the beach can be hard to take if you're a full time resident. In a world of boundless options, I'd have winter at the beach until early March; the rest of the year in the cooler highlands.

May you have a successful search and find a happy landing.



bournemouth

Jul 16, 2006, 1:58 PM

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Bubba is clearly off his medication, whatever it is, at the moment and his juvenile vocabulary is reflecting that sorry state. I suspect he will be describing his new home location in the same terms after a short stay there. Sad to see a man of his admitted years still mentally in kindergarten.



Bubba

Jul 16, 2006, 3:40 PM

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I must be living in a fantasy. I would have sworn that I responded most cleverly to bournemouth´s love letter to me but perhaps I only imagined that response.

Jennifer - you can´t have it both ways. Bournemouth is British cum Ajijician - a sorry combination if there ever was one and Brits are not nearly as much fun as Alabamians although about 50% of us escaped from that sorry lot. and 40% of us came from Ghana albeit involuntarily. If you cut Bubba off so quickly, you may have to depend on the Brit for your humor. That is death on wheels.

Here is an example of British humor.

I´m sorry. When one has no clever rejoinder, one resorts to gratuitous defamation. There is no such thing as British humor.

What we have here is idiot´s night out.


(This post was edited by Bubba on Jul 16, 2006, 4:04 PM)



bournemouth

Jul 16, 2006, 3:53 PM

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And I hope you're enjoying your night out.



Bubba

Jul 16, 2006, 3:56 PM

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I´m sorry. I mispoke. There is British humor. Manifest in Monty Python´s Life of Brian in which Bubba´s favorite song, Always Look on the Bright Side of Life, is featured when Brian is hanging on the cross.

I really fail to understand why bournemouth´s secret love for me bothers her so much. You know, bournemouth, I´m just down the road from you and Brigitte is in San Cristobal planning stuff like where to position the televison set so come on over and let´s share a cupa.



bournemouth

Jul 16, 2006, 6:03 PM

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" Brigitte is in San Cristobal planning stuff like where to position the televison set"

______________________________________________________________

Now all is plain - the restraining influence of your wife is missing.




esperanza

Jul 16, 2006, 6:35 PM

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Fiddlesticks, she eggs him on.

http://www.mexicocooks.typepad.com










arbon

Jul 16, 2006, 6:44 PM

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"Brigitte is in San Cristobal planning stuff like where to position the television set"

¿Balanced on top of a partially opened door perhaps?
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jennifer rose

Jul 16, 2006, 7:23 PM

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Let's get back on topic

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Sharyn, who is new to MexicoConnect asked a simple question. Let's get back to giving her some answers instead of prattle.



Goody2shs

Jul 16, 2006, 10:09 PM

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Make that drink strong coffee!!!



morgaine7


Jul 16, 2006, 10:48 PM

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Hi Sharyn,

Judy Snyder's blog gives an excellent description of searching for just the right place, almost not finding it, then practically falling into it:
http://judysny.googlepages.com/

Also a single woman alone, I started the same way, with a list of "must haves" and "no ways", then did as much research as I could to nail down a short-list of 3-4 destinations. As it happened, I fell in love with my #1 (La Paz, BCS) and never made it to the others. Instead, I went back and bought a small home that I plan to move into next spring and live in year round. All that goes against conventional wisdom, but the "This is IT!!" feeling was very strong for me and hasn't changed after a year and four visits.

La Paz probably wouldn't be right for you (mostly desert and sea, larger town than you want), but I'm mainly trying to say that it doesn't always take months of travel and multiple long-term stays to discover where you feel at home. If your time and budget allow for that, go for it. Mine didn't, so I traveled a different flight path. Plenty of time to visit other paradises and hellholes once I get settled in mine :-)

Happy landings!

Kate



Bubba

Jul 16, 2006, 10:56 PM

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I am selling my house so I can move to mexico (and if that doesn´t work, perhaps I will find happiness at the end of a long and pointed stick)

So, tell me Jennifer, why did this superficial inquiry by a non-serious person who seeks a place in Mexico that does not even exist invite "prattle" from your more serious contributors? I must say that these forums fairly beg for ridiculous inquiry. Why can´t we have fun with such exuberant foolishnesss without your peeing on our parade?

The time has come the walrus said to talk of many things
of shoes and ships and sealing wax and cabbages and kings
and why the sea is boiling hot and Bubba still has wings.

Morgain is right about one thing. La paz amy not be right for you, Sharyn. The fact is that you can sell your home and move to Mars and you will still, be Sharyn. Sorry, but Bubba can assure you that wherever you go there you are.


(This post was edited by Bubba on Jul 16, 2006, 11:11 PM)



Sharyn

Jul 17, 2006, 7:04 AM

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That's the idea...take myself to Mexico. Cheers, Bob. Hope your day gets better.



Bubba

Jul 17, 2006, 7:54 AM

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That wasn´t me Sharyn. Someone has clearly stolen my password.



Poncho32

Jul 17, 2006, 8:14 AM

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Well you your starting off right with the country your picking to live in we have called it our home for 36 years and love every minute of our stay.
Your questions are not simple to answer and because of your desire to live here I have some questions to ask you.
You state that humid hot conditions are not of your preference and you want shops and restaurants.
Things I believe that you need to also take into consideration, Medical, transportation.
The latter are not always readily available.
You also mentioned that you like to stay with a population of 150,000 or less .
Something that you might consider is locating close to a heavily populated are.
For instance we live in Puerto Vllarta, but actually five miles south of town.
There are many out lying towns surrounding Puerto Vallarta that are very nice places to live.
By situating yourself in a close by town you don't sacrifice some of the basic needs such as good medical.
I in courage you, as also mentioned by others, that you not make a snap decision and give yourself plenty of time to look and feel things out.
Good luck, Bud Crest



Sharyn

Jul 17, 2006, 9:18 AM

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Thanks Bud.

36 years, wow. What a lovely expat success story. I bet you guys have lots of wonderful stories to tell.

You are right. For me, the medical and other amenities are a given. I just thought that since most of the non-beach expat places I have read about is around 2 areas...Lake Chapala and San M. de A., there might be other towns I had not run across. I've not been to either of these. My vacations have been mostly to the coast, just remembered, Taxco too. I haven't actually been any one place in Mx that said "move here!!". PV is fabulous, and I love it. I only know the old town, and was dismayed the last time I went to find that in the 20 years between my visits, all the beaches had been built on! Still loved the town though, and the little vegan restaurant behind the church is so incredibly great. And I'm not even a vegetarian.

I am not familiar with the part of town you live in. Do you have pix anywhere on the web?

Cheers,

Sharyn



TigerTonio


Jul 17, 2006, 9:35 AM

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In Reply To
I haven't actually been any one place in Mx that said "move here!!".


I'm a believer in that it WILL happen. It's a wonderful feeling that will hit you...and you'll just know.

All the advice given here will help -- everyone has his/her own vision of perfect living. But ultimately, it's you and your heart that will come to the final decison.

OT: And yes, there are some characters here at MexConnect (I sure do miss Ms. Powell!). But even the characters have contributed some great posts and I can't imagine this forum without them. My subscription to MexConnect has more than paid for itself from all the valuable information I've gleaned.



Rolly


Jul 17, 2006, 9:41 AM

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Sharyn, you might want to take a look at my blogs page. It has blogs from all over Mexico along with lots of pictures. http://rollybrook.com/blogs.htm

Rolly Pirate



Sharyn

Jul 17, 2006, 9:55 AM

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Thanks Tio Tono,

I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said.



Bubba

Jul 17, 2006, 10:27 AM

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Now all is plain - the restraining influence of your wife is missing.

I don´t get it. What do guys not living with women do to restrain themselves? You know, I´ve lived with Brigitte since 1971 when she decided to escape her mother´s tiny inoxygenated prison in Paris´ 13th for the exquisite gardens along the Fowl River (or, more romatically the Ile Aux Oiseaux River) along the shores of the phantasmagoric and surreal Mobile Bay (a large estuary, actually and, if I have my facts right, the largest estuarine waterway south of Chesapeake Bay which is also an estuary) flying cockroaches and giant rats be damned and I´m puzzled to know what I would have been without her moderating influence but then it doesn´t matter does it since that did not not happen. and what we used to smoke on Mobile Bay we no longer smoke nor do we play Hotel California over and over again just for the guitar riff and while drinking almond liquor and thinking we are immortal.

I suspect that I would be pushing up daisies by now but maybe that is simply what she wants me to believe.

Anyway, while we suffered through 30 or more years of California washed out pastels and muted sounds primarily the buzz of traffic and people going, "God, I live in California and I could be in Nebraska...." if you know what I mean and we now reside in a tropical paradise where the colors and bird songs are not to be believed and we feel blessed to be in Mexico despite the leaky roof and will leave here feet first.

Any of you reading this questioning your inclination to move to Mexico just drop it and come here. You might, however, want to skip Peoria South along the muddy shores of Lake Chapala. Why not just move to the Moline Journey´s End Mobile Estates and shoot yourself.


(This post was edited by Bubba on Jul 17, 2006, 10:40 AM)



MazDee

Jul 17, 2006, 7:49 PM

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So where do you suggest she look, Bubba, now that you have put down every place she or anyone else mentioned? I found my place in Mazatlán, Sharyn, and it is perfect for me. Oh yeah, I have to get out of here sometimes in the summer but I find I can revive with 1 or 2 week trips to a higher elevation. Most of the year it is a very beautiful and friendly city, with many more cultural events than you can imagine, and that part is getting better all the time. We have excellent medical facilities and everything else I need. The summer humidity has made me try to look at places where I can be comfortable year around, or even just find a cheap apt in the mountains for 3 months a year. But, I like it here so much, that exercize has proved difficult. Give it a try. Come in the winter, then decide if you could handle the summer doldrums. Dee



Bubba

Jul 18, 2006, 7:23 AM

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My apologies MazDee and Sharyn. One nice thing about Mexico is that it offers a number of very different alternatives.Actually, it is my intention, if I´m still on the planet, to spend my winters in Merida or the Oaxaca coast which are both near San Cristobal - my new stomping grounds. Just ignore clowns like me, Sharyn.



wendy devlin

Jul 18, 2006, 3:25 PM

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Bubba,

imho opinion, you play the part of devil's advocate...round these parts:)

Trouble with DA's, clowns and historic Tricksters, in these 'modern' times,
" Can't get no respect!"

quoting Rodney Dangerfield?

And anyone who
finds you too over the top, they can just flip the ignore button in their brain.


(This post was edited by wendy devlin on Jul 18, 2006, 3:27 PM)



DavidMcL


Jul 20, 2006, 11:01 AM

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I have deleted a number of Postings that were not relevant to the original posing and were more appropriate as Private Replies..

David
David McL
WebJefe



Sharyn

Jul 20, 2006, 11:31 AM

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Dee,

Thank you so much for your reply. I remember loving the coast at Christmastime one year long ago, so you may have it right. If I can afford two places somehow, wouldn't that be grand!!



Sharyn

Jul 20, 2006, 11:35 AM

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Bubba,

I can see the fun of you. I was perplexed why ya turned on me there, but it was explained privately that you may have thought I had never been to Mexico because I said I had never been to Mexico to look for a place to live. I like your other posts very much and thank you for them.



MariaLund

Jul 20, 2006, 1:48 PM

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In Reply To

In Reply To
I haven't actually been any one place in Mx that said "move here!!".


I'm a believer in that it WILL happen. It's a wonderful feeling that will hit you...and you'll just know.



:-(( Now, I wish I knew to whom I should complain that this wonderful feeling, Tio Tono refers to, never hits me.
There are plenty (waaay too many, in fact) places in the world that say to me "live here... for a while" but no place that would say "live here". I like every place I live - for a while - then I start looking for some other place (usually contrasting in some way the place I live in at the moment), then I move, I explore, I like it, then I start missing some place from the past for a while, consider moving there, then I change my mind and think "may be just one more adventure before I get too old and too decrepit for it " and I go on that adventure... I explore, I like it.... and so da capo al fine.

But finally I am moving to Mexico (which I was thinking about off and on and off again for almost 3 years now) ... for a while, I guess... in early September... I'll stay in Ajijic for a few weeks just to explore it, then move to Costa Allegre (probably La Manzanilla - seems like it has the nicest beach and snorkeling and a jungle: all of them on my list of most favorite things :-)) and then to Acapulco, where my friends recently moved, to go yachting with them, and - as I promised - give a serious consideration to living there... for a while. ;-)

Who ever said life has to be stable, one has to have a permanent place to live, the same interests, the same neighbors, the same sights to see?

But to be free, it is good to either sell or rent your house. And then, Sharon, you can test - and taste - various places to live at your leisure. Good luck.
Vivere non est necesse, navigare necesse est!



wendy devlin

Jul 20, 2006, 2:52 PM

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Maria Lund,

Several of my friends winter each year at La Manzanilla. It is such a small place you will likely run into them. They like snorkelling, hiking and everything you mentioned.

You can post questions on the forum at www.lamanzanilla.info but again the village is so small, you will likely to be able to figure most things out when you get there.

We have usually chosen to stay in Melaque but often party/hike in La Manzanilla!


(This post was edited by wendy devlin on Jul 20, 2006, 2:53 PM)



DoDi2


Jul 21, 2006, 3:55 PM

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In Reply To
"Brigitte is in San Cristobal planning stuff like where to position the television set"

¿Balanced on top of a partially opened door perhaps?

arbon~ that made me spit coffee all over my keyboard



Lavanda

Nov 12, 2006, 7:54 PM

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Dear Moderator

(as I bite my tongue whilst it
is in my cheek)

Do Bubba's witty rejoinders need
to be moved to the Prattle forum?


!! Viva Mexico, warts and all !!!





Judy in Ags


Nov 12, 2006, 11:30 PM

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'Just a word to add to morgaine7's comments about finding the right place in one trip. If you've read my blog, you'll see we did that. We've lived here 3 years and 7 months now and never regretted it for a minute, so it is possible to fall in "love at first sight".



bfwpdx

Nov 13, 2006, 6:41 AM

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I agree with Judy that you can find the right place in one trip (with luck). In our case though, it had nothing to do with "falling in love" but with just plain common sense, a lot of past thinking about what exactly we needed and wanted, a lifetime of travel and living in third world countries, and a short list of flexible requirements. I still am not "in love" with our place, but I do love it and expect to have that grow more over the years...by the way here is our short list: location convenient to resources (30 mins to Guadalajara) but a healthy distance from the expatriate hordes (5 mins to Jocotepec, 15 mins to Ajijic); sunshine; warmth. The rest was personal preference and gut feelings (and luck). I know this sounds like it was simple, but it wasn't and it would take me a book to explain it all in depth. The good part is that after 5 years, we are still on the same plan we had when we first arrived in 2001, we have our snowbirding nest almost finished, we still feel confident in the choices we made, and we are content.



jerezano

Nov 13, 2006, 9:13 AM

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Hello Sharyn,

Seems to me that Bubba is having a great day. How could it get better?

Seriously Sharyn, your original post does seem a bit wide-eyed and dreamy. Bubba is right. It is the question of a 12 year old wide-eyed girl who is waiting for Prince Charming on his White Stallion. For us older folk those days are gone forever. Nobody is going to hand you anything on a silver platter.

Here on mexconnect if you will lurk on the forums and do some searching you will find that most of us in México, no matter where we live are more or less in love with our life style. You will be too. But you need to sit down and seriously talk to yourself, what are your needs such as time to the border, how you will get there by car, bus, air or mule. Or perhaps like Bubba you will prefer not to get back to base at all. Your idea about hot humid tropical climates shows that at least you have started to think. Your comment about the need for gringo companionship also shows elementary thinking.

But you first need to think seriously about income for the rest of your life. Selling a house, even if you get more than a million dollars for it will not in todays world pay for many years of a comfortable life. Then you need to think about physical health and well-being. As we age our bodies tend to falter faster than our minds.

Once you have settled questions about getting back to base for whatever reasons, income for life, potential health needs, etc. then you need to start worrying about the smaller things: Children, friends, isolation, noise, climate, culture shock, personal wants and desires, etc.

I would recommend where I live here in Jerez de García Salinas without hesitation, I would also recommend without hesitation Tepic in Nayarit. Perhaps with lots of income Ajijic, Chapala or if you must have night life San Miguel Allende. I would never recommend Patzcuaro, Morelia, Monterrey, La Paz, or even Guadalajara--but then that is where those subtle desires begin to show. I am just as opinionated as Bubba but I don't express myself so forcefully or colorfully.

Study. Study. Study. Get all the information you can but FIRST OF ALL KNOW YOURSELF.

And no matter what you hear, Bubba is right. There ain't no paradise in México, not even San Cristóbal de Las Casas.
Paradise is what you make of where you are. And like happiness you can get it to come close but it doesn't hang around. You have to work at both.

Now a philosophical question which is not aimed at you, Sharyn, but as a real oldster I wonder how my generation produced two generations of children who can't think. Some day a future philosopher will perhaps answer that question. I suppose my own grandfathers are up there in heaven or rolling around in hell thinking exactly the same thing.

God Speed and Adiós. jerezano



Sharyn

Nov 13, 2006, 5:21 PM

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jerezano,

I think gathering information by asking questions of people who have been there and done that, people who have opinions about what they have seen and tasted in the way of Mexico is a very intelligent and valid way to enrich my other research. I marvel at how many assumptions you make about my wide-eyedness, my age, what degree of other research I may have already done. And without one question first. Do you have a crystal ball, or were you born knowing everything?



MazDee

Nov 13, 2006, 9:50 PM

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Sharyn, I thought Jerezano gave you a well thought out piece of advice. He is a wonderful contributor to this site, and I look forward to his messages. I think he was telling you not to jump into this with your eyes closed. You need to travel this country and find out what YOU like and dislike about it. And maybe you won't like it at all. Nobody else can tell you what you will like, right? Now that you have done some research here, you should start visiting all the places that have been recommended and then some. Read Jerezano's message again, and think of him as someone trying to help, not insult you. Dee



Georgia


Nov 14, 2006, 6:52 AM

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Bubba! Wake up! If everyone does as you suggest and all the ex-pats coming here move to San Cristobal de las Casas ..... well.... where would you be then? Think: different strokes.

Consider this: every once in awhile when I mention where I live, newcomers tell me they've heard that out here there is scarce electricity, no water and no paved roads. I sigh, and agree.

Think about it.